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Not true. The Rockies play in the biggest launching pad of all yet they have developed excellent pitching. The Rangers lack of management at the FO and farm levels have squandered opportunities to get it right and develop pitching over and over.
Nolan Ryan has stated all the decisions he makes are all part of team decisions with Tom Hicks and Jon Daniels. So in other words...he does nothing on his own. So if your image of him has a superman cape on its wrong.
He’s coming into the breeding pit neutered.
Not true. The Rockies play in the biggest launching pad of all yet they have developed excellent pitching. The Rangers lack of management at the FO and farm levels have squandered opportunities to get it right and develop pitching over and over.
ie. Chris young
You guys and moan about not having any pitching, yet your team trades it's best pitching prospect for an injury prone CF.
Eh, Volquez's stock had fallen some already. And he really wasn't that highly touted anyways.
John Hart tried pushing the "D-V-D is the next Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz" selling point, but in reality none of those three were ever considered true top prospects. They might have been the best the Rangers farm system had to offer, but they weren't going to all be Cy Young pitchers. Danks was the best of the bunch and we got a guy who is considered to have more potential for him. I was against trading both Danks and Volquez, but neither of those trades were horrible deals.
Now trading Chris Young & Adrian Gonzalez for nothing......THAT is the definition of a horrible deal. Not to mention Soriano for Wilkerson, and on and on and on
Maybe it had fallen with the Rangers, but he is absolutely tearing it up for the Reds right now. He's blowing smoke by hitters and not walking very many.Eh, Volquez's stock had fallen some already. And he really wasn't that highly touted anyways.
John Hart tried pushing the "D-V-D is the next Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz" selling point, but in reality none of those three were ever considered true top prospects. They might have been the best the Rangers farm system had to offer, but they weren't going to all be Cy Young pitchers. Danks was the best of the bunch and we got a guy who is considered to have more potential for him. I was against trading both Danks and Volquez, but neither of those trades were horrible deals.
Now trading Chris Young & Adrian Gonzalez for nothing......THAT is the definition of a horrible deal. Not to mention Soriano for Wilkerson, and on and on and on
It's beyond frustrating. This team creates more apathy than talent.
I hope he does well because I thought he had a great mentality out there, and he's got really really good stuff.....but we saw that a lot in Texas and it just never amounted to much of anything.
I still think he can be a great #2 or #3 guy in a rotation, and I didn't like the trade all that much at the time, but he just never wowed anybody beyond a few flashes in Texas.
Despite some awful moves, I'm still a believer in Jon Daniels and Ron Washington. The problem of course, as it's always been with the Rangers for the past decade, is the owner.
As long as Tom Hicks is very reluctantly signing the checks, this club is never going to have sustained success.
If you think the Rangers aren't well on their way to turning this thing around NOW, you are not paying attention.
I hope Edinson the best, but it's Spring Training. Let's see what he does in games that count. Not saying he won't do well but ST numbers hold very little water.
How so?
Explain
1. What moves has Jon made that are worthy?
2. Tom Hicks...agree.
They jumped from no. 28 overall in the BA farm rankings to number 4 .. in ONE YEAR. This is practically unheard of and shows that what Tom Grieve started when he was GM ( a systematic plan of having an ever-replenished farm full of talent) will actually happen this time. Grieve wasn't allowed to carry the plan out completely because of impatience ... but both Daniels and Washington have gotten contract extensions, meaning for ONCE, the Rangers will have a plan that works AND see it through. Hallelujiah!
Plus, they did not overspend for FAs this season. Everyone wanted Hunter but he isn't worth the money the Angels spent ... his contract will be an albatross around their neck within two years. Instead, the Rangers are being patient and either trading for young talent or waiting for it to develop on the farm.
The fact that they optioned Hurley to AAA instead of keeping him in the rotation is another sign of patience. They don't want the same thing to happen to Volquez to happen to Hurley. He isn't quite ready yet and instead of caving in to pressure they are going to wait till he is ready and not unecessarily burn an option.
These signs all point to a team that has a solid plan and is NOT veering from it.
Plus, Nolan being here gives the team credibility it SORELY needed in the public eye and gives them one more experienced person to go to. Nolan and Daniels and Washington probably all have different outlooks but it creates a series of checks and balances and makes sure that nobody developes tunnel vision.
I personally love the direction their headed and for the first time in a decade I have true hope that they can shock the naysayers and be above .500 this season and really, truly contend next season and the Angels are imploding from bloated contracts and the Mariners still have a mostly crappy lineup with no help coming on the farm.
Just my opinion, though.
Melmart, I hope your optimism is right. Ive forgotten what it's like to watch a good Rangers team, and the thought of one day soon seeing a legitimate contender Rangers team would be awesome.
1. Making a concerted effort to build up the farm system and sticking with that plan.
2. Making the right move of trading away Teixeira, who was a complete asshole and chemistry killer.
He took risks early on that didn't pay off, but I think that was him being eager to make a big splash as a new GM. And initially, the Chris Young trade and the Soriano traded seemed like smart ideas.
He's settled down now, the mad scientist/MLB 2K8 trades aren't happening anymore, and he's committed to having a healthy farm system.
I don't think he's going to lead this team to sustained success (since Tom Hicks is still the owner), but I guarantee you we'll see the post-season during the Jon Daniels era.
Have faith, man. The Golden Age is coming ... I know it's hard to tell a Rangers fan to have faith, but the good news is that they won't be awful between now and contender time. Now, I am not saying they will be great, either. But I think they will be a scrappy team that will surprise a lot of people this year and yeah, if the Angels continue to have pitching problems, maybe even contend with the Mariners. If you are paying attention, it is not that far out of the realm of possibility.
But even if they don't contend they will continue to get better and that is the first step.
That has only been the plan since mid season last year...I think that is a bit early to give him credit to sticking to it.
I know I am being extremely negative but damn...I have just seen this over and over again.
And for Tex...Hicks lied to us countless times saying he can't be a big player in the free agent market because they need money to re-sign Tex. Then Hicks says he is too expensive.
I agree it was the right thing to do...just sayen Hicks is 100% full of ...
You didnt' respond to anything I pointed out, Mr. admittedly negative ...
The Tex deal was great ... I know none of them are at the ML level .. yet .. but gotdamn, those guys could be huuuuge for us later ...
Same with the Gagne trade ... I loooved Gagne here, but the Red Sox got raped in that deal ... and its hilarious to me that nobody points that out ... we got TWO ML-ready guys (Gabbard and Murphy) plus a guy whose upside is so huge I am thinking of making the trip to Surprise next year just to see him ... so don't try and honestly say that Daniels hasn't done anything on his watch ... the Gagne trade alone is enough to tell me that he is in the right direction now.
I don't have much of an opinion on it. I am fence sitting on what you said...I can see where you could both right and wrong so there is no point bogging down in an argument on those points simply to argue.
And I have every right to be negative. I have been watching this POS team for over 2 decades.
Of course...it could be. I have zero problem with the trade except that Hicks used Tex as an excuse to not spend money for 3 years.
...I would like to trade Young. He has said he "didn't re-sign to sit around while it rebuilds"
Again...I have no problem if this team sucks with young talent as long as it stays the course and spends big at the right time.
I will NOT sit here and defend Hicks ... cus I don't care for him either ... but the fact that he extended both Wash and JD gives me hope that he is finally seeing the errors of his past ways ...
And I truly believe that Hicks used Tex as an excuse to not spend because he thought he could re-sign him. In fact, Evan Grant is on record and so is Hicks in saying that they offered Tex a huge contract, but he wanted out and there was no way around that. If you are paying attention, you will know that NOT signing Tex was really just another piece of the puzzle ... One that makes all the others come together, even if it doesn't make sense right now w, this minute ...
And by the way ... I have been a Rangers fan for 20 years now, so don't give me your bull about seein them fail, etc ... I know about rooting for a ty team and having them break your heart when they could contend (i.e. 1996). In my 20 yrs as an unabashed Rangers fan I can honestly say I have never been more excited than now ... pay attention and you will know why.
He extends everyone... ...John Hart is a part of this team until 2013 or something like that.
Oh that Rangers battle cry.."We tried"...yes I have heard it...
Tex would have been a disaster...no doubt...my pont was Hicks lying. Nothing more than that.
Whats bull about that? They failed...I watched them...so I don't see where you're going with that.
I don't know if the Rangers have been failing for 20 years. Those late 90's teams were great despite just one playoff win....i mean they ran into a freakin buzzsaw. Nobody else beat the Yankees those years either.
1 playoff win in their history.
Who...in any sport... has achieved less?
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