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    "Have to check the film" PixelPusher's Avatar
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    If he can just delay the Democratic Convention for a couple of decades, this "compound interest" thing just might work...

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    Hillary spend 88% of her Feb receipts, Obama spent 75%; whereas McCain spent and equivalent 75%.

    Why drain your contributors now when they'll be more important after the Democrat bloodbath is over?
    Yeah, all those corporations and limousine liberals that make up the bulk of Obama's contributors must have reach their limits by now...oh, wait...

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    the fact is

    democrats are excited and giving money to clinton and obama
    independents are excited about the democrats and giving money to clinton and obama
    Latest poll says 20% of either candidates' supporters walk to McCain if their pick isn't the nominee.

    mccain is not exciting, and repubs aren't giving money
    We'll see.

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    personally, i think the big repub donors MIGHT wake up and start giving money, if mccain stoops to suck a little
    If they don't want Obama or Clinton to be president, he won't have to "suck a little ."

    the evangelicals won't give him jack squat
    The evangelicals will empty their pockets to keep Obama or Clinton out of the White House.

    the diehard hill-ites or obama s will stay at home rather than make the effort to vote for mccain. they certainly won't give him money
    McCain was never my first pick but, I'll be voting for him in this election...to keep either Clinton or Obama out of the White House.

    all in all, either clinton or obama will have a lot mas dinero than mccain to spend on tv commercials to sway the nonthinking masses come november time
    Are you not paying attention? They're spending what they make.

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    people don't turn out to vote AGAINST someone
    There's never been a Hillary or an Obama before.

    and they certainly won't give money to someone they don't like because they don't like someone else even more
    That may be true in the primaries.

    that's just re ulous
    We'll see. I've been wrong before.

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    pimpo 's coming up with a new language: interneteese

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    To all of you obama nut huggers..He isn't winning the general election..For that matter Hillary isn' either..

    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics....20080321a.html

    dumb asses.. The Obama nut huggers are making my possible vote for mccain an easy choice... but,but,but Obama is a uniter..give me a break.. he's been such a uniter that 20% of clinton voters are running from him... he can't even unite the deomcratic party and all we hear from his lovers that he's a uniter! what a freaking joke

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    Her own people know she can't win. But don't worry, continue tearing down Obama. Shows what the only thing that matters to Clinton is.

    nice job manny.. now that obama handed Florida and Michigan to mccain his miniscule chance to win the general election is gone.. great strategy.. but,but, it's clinton's fault...

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    nice job manny.. now that obama handed Florida and Michigan to mccain his miniscule chance to win the general election is gone.. great strategy.. but,but, it's clinton's fault...
    Yes, Obama first voted to move up the elections in violation of DNC rules. Then, after he di that he impersenated Clinton when she aggreed the results would not count. THEN he mind controlled the DNC and the state legislatures of both states and made sure there were no revotes.

    , those are the facts.

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    Yes, Obama first voted to move up the elections in violation of DNC rules. Then, after he di that he impersenated Clinton when she aggreed the results would not count. THEN he mind controlled the DNC and the state legislatures of both states and made sure there were no revotes.

    , those are the facts.

    Well facts will cost him the election.. doesn't that suck. I love the explanation but are you going to explain that to the voters in those states? Obama is now getting hurt in each of those states because of his stance..shrewd move..

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    Hillary supporters accusing Obama of dividing the party

    That is ing rich!

    GGA, there isn't a bigger polarizing figure in American politics than Hillary Clinton.

    You're claiming 20% of her voters are running away from Obama? Go check how many Obama voters are running away from Hillary if she wins . . .

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    Well facts will cost him the election.. doesn't that suck. I love the explanation but are you going to explain that to the voters in those states? Obama is now getting hurt in each of those states because of his stance..shrewd move..
    You should go make a bunch of money by putting your money where your mouth is and laying huge bets on McCain to win the election, IMO.

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    FWIW, If you make a comment torwards me regarding a possible outcomes in the general expect to get a smart ass answer back everytime prior to the conventions. I don't care what you say, you can't even begin to grasp what the outcome of that election is until a much later date so why start now unless you're trying to make yourself look completely clueless.

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    Hillary supporters accusing Obama of dividing the party

    That is ing rich!

    GGA, there isn't a bigger polarizing figure in American politics than Hillary Clinton.

    You're claiming 20% of her voters are running away from Obama? Go check how many Obama voters are running away from Hillary if she wins . . .

    So then we both can agree that neither of them have a chance in the general election? don't play stupid...you just proved my point.

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    Will Obama be able to secure the nomination without the Super Delegates?
    No. Neither of them can without the superficials.

    A middling amount of campaign cash + 3 months of compound interest = still a middling amount of campaign cash.

    Obama and Hillary each raked in over $30 million in February alone.
    So what. I've been meaning to look something very important up...

    How much money is not going to the DNC because people are contributing to ary or Obama instead? I hear the DNC is basically broke. How will they raise enough money to field candidates in 50 states while liberals are throwing money to the primaries still?

    What are the GOP vs. DNC money numbers?

    This could be a GOP blowout in November! Large numbers of demonrats may get their walking papers because the republicans will be able to out spend them.

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    So then we both can agree that neither of them have a chance in the general election? don't play stupid...you just proved my point.
    I was not discussing "that" point with you. Manny was.

    Ergo, I'm not playing stupid.

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    No. Neither of them can without the superficials.
    That was my point.

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    This could be a GOP blowout in November! Large numbers of demonrats may get their walking papers because the republicans will be able to out spend them.
    Hmm. not sure I share your optimism. While this Congress has not exactly lit it up, it's still a bad time to be a Republican in Washington. An unpopular war and a possible recession will likely prevent the GOP from making many gains in Congress. The Presidency, however, is another matter. I think McCain has a fighter's chance of winning this thing, provided he attacks his opponent on (generally speaking) (1) homeland security, (2) national defense, and (3) domestic spending. He might also play the "values" card.

    I'm not predicting a McCain victory, but he has a good shot.

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    Hmm. not sure I share your optimism. While this Congress has not exactly lit it up, it's still a bad time to be a Republican in Washington. An unpopular war and a possible recession will likely prevent the GOP from making many gains in Congress. The Presidency, however, is another matter. I think McCain has a fighter's chance of winning this thing, provided he attacks his opponent on (generally speaking) (1) homeland security, (2) national defense, and (3) domestic spending. He might also play the "values" card.

    I'm not predicting a McCain victory, but he has a good shot.
    Well, money does play a factor in getting information and propaganda out. Right now, so much money is being spent by the democrats supporting either ery or Obama, I think it will have a dramatic effect on how much people spend to support demonrats in the general election. They may feel tapped out.

    I believe this to be unspoken reason to keep the primary going. Under the guise of just keeping them at each others throats, and keeping the delegate counts similar, anyone who has above average intelligence (mostly conservatives) understands how this massive spending the liberals have to keep up has to take a toll as well.

    How much money will liberals and democrats spend that they cannot then spend for the general election?

    We conservatives can be devious!
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    Her own people know she can't win. But don't worry, continue tearing down Obama. Shows what the only thing that matters to Clinton is.
    That has been my observation, as well.

    She is willing to do or say anything to win.

    Ultimately that is what sets them apart.

    Obama supporters can tell you why you should vote for Obama.

    Hillary supporters can tell you why you shouldn't vote for Obama.

    There is the difference. It is subtle, but think about it.

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    No. Neither of them can without the superficials.



    So what. I've been meaning to look something very important up...

    How much money is not going to the DNC because people are contributing to ary or Obama instead? I hear the DNC is basically broke. How will they raise enough money to field candidates in 50 states while liberals are throwing money to the primaries still?

    What are the GOP vs. DNC money numbers?

    This could be a GOP blowout in November! Large numbers of demonrats may get their walking papers because the republicans will be able to out spend them.

    Two words:

    George f***ing Bush.

    Fair or not, the republican party will be saddled with his failed, incompetant presidency, and the likely nasty recession that we are going to have by the time the elections roll around.

    This is McCain's fate, no matter who gets the nod. Anger and disapppointment towards Bush has energized the Democratic parties in quite a few states.

    I think the record turnout for the Democratic primaries is a harbringer of what is going to happen in the general election.

    There is even (gasp) some talk of Texas going blue...

    Heh, I think that is unlikely, but remotely possible. It would be funny, if so.

    Demographically, the fastest growing segments of Texas tend to be those that vote Democrat. I expect that Texas as a whole will be more "in play" over the coming two decades than some would think.

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    You should go make a bunch of money by putting your money where your mouth is and laying huge bets on McCain to win the election, IMO.
    http://www.intrade.com/

    You can actually do exactly that at the above website. They call it futures contracts. There are a few websites out there that do similar, but this seems to be the most popular. , I will be signing up for this and putting my money on the Dems to win the presidency, so any of you out there who dislike me, can take my money, if you are really convinced about it, and buy futures on the GOP...


    As of now, the consensus is that Barack Obama has about an 80% chance of winning the nomination.

    Further, the Democratic party is given a 60% chance of winning the presidency, no matter who gets the nod, and a 90% chance of keeping the House, with a 90% chance of keeping control of the senate.

    That last will likely change a bit, after the Democratic convention, one way or the other.

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