D'antoni finally gives in, changes offense for Shaq

[Findog]

Also, the leave the bench rule has been drilled into every player and coach incessantly. There's no excuse for Amare and Diaw not to be aware of it. That's why Iavaroni was frantically trying to pull Amare back. If they don't have the poise and presence of mind to remember something as basic as that, it doesn't bode well for how they would handle the pressure of a Game 7 against the Spurs. No matter though, a le team would've beaten San Antonio in Game 6, and they couldn't do it. Nothing is more laughable than the idea that David Stern stole a le from Phoenix by upholding a rule that everybody in the league knows about. The suspensions made it harder for Phoenix to win the series, but it didn't by any means change the ultimate outcome.

[majinkoola]

I hate these people who say, "Oh, a championship team would have overcome that." I don't remember the Spurs overcoming the type of injuries the Suns had in 04-05 and 05-06 to win the championship. I don't remember Duncan and Oberto not playing in a game during a tough series. If the suspensions didn't happen, I don't know who would have won, but it would have likely gone 7. And had Duncan and Oberto been suspended for Game 6 and Amare and Diaw had not been for Game 5, the Suns would have won the series. When did the Spurs win a game 6 on the road to prolong a series? I don't remember it happening. So by your criteria, they're not a championship team.

There are very few teams in history who could have overcome what the Suns have had to go through the last few years. The Spurs are not one of them.

[JMarkJohns]

You need to check your baggage at the door. This board is past last year. Please don't reopen those wounds. There was a time for whining and a time for excuses, but believe me when I say that crap got old real fast, for even non Spurs fans on this board. The idiots that posted then killed last year to the point where it's automatically a bad taste and a terrible way to start of one's posting tenure at this site. If you have an opinion on last year, go to one of the many Suns homer boards like PHXsuns.net or AZSportsFan.com and vent. You'll be in welcome company. If you want to discuss this year here, then I'm sure you'll be welcomed.

But for so, soooo many reasons, leave last year as part of last year. It literally has no bearing on this season. And, since many now commenting weren't even here then, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to litter the boards and drudge the disgust back up.

[Findog]

I hate these people who say, "Oh, a championship team would have overcome that."

Championship teams win when facing elimination. The Suns didn't do that.

When did the Spurs win a game 6 on the road to prolong a series? I don't remember it happening. So by your criteria, they're not a championship team.

Their 03 le team clinched ALL FOUR SERIES on the road. Championship teams win on the road. The 07 Suns were not a championship team.

[Indazone]

Wanna know what makes the Suns so dangerous during this next playoff run? Also for that matter the Spurs? Count below how many times Shaq or Duncan have been a key cog in their respective championship teams.

Last 10 years

1998 Bulls - 7'2" Luc Longly
1999 Spurs - D. Robinson and T. Duncan
2000 Lakers - Shaq
2001 Lakers - Shaq
2002 Lakers - Shaq
2003 Spurs - Duncan
2004 Pistons - B. Wallace
2005 Spurs - Duncan
2006 Heat - Shaq
2007 Spurs - Duncan

[Findog]

Wanna know what makes the Suns so dangerous during this next playoff run? Also for that matter the Spurs? Count below how many times Shaq or Duncan have been a key cog in their respective championship teams.

Last 10 years

1998 Bulls - 7'2" Luc Longly
1999 Spurs - D. Robinson and T. Duncan
2000 Lakers - Shaq
2001 Lakers - Shaq
2002 Lakers - Shaq
2003 Spurs - Duncan
2004 Pistons - B. Wallace
2005 Spurs - Duncan
2006 Heat - Shaq
2007 Spurs - Duncan

How many times has Shaq been a key component on a le team? Once in the past five years, and he's even further removed from that skill level.

[Purple & Gold]

D'Antoni is still an idiot. Can't believe it took him this long to recognize his style won't ever win a Ring.

[hater]

yeah shaq is your saviour

[majinkoola]

You need to check your baggage at the door. This board is past last year. Please don't reopen those wounds. There was a time for whining and a time for excuses, but believe me when I say that crap got old real fast, for even non Spurs fans on this board. The idiots that posted then killed last year to the point where it's automatically a bad taste and a terrible way to start of one's posting tenure at this site. If you have an opinion on last year, go to one of the many Suns homer boards like PHXsuns.net or AZSportsFan.com and vent. You'll be in welcome company. If you want to discuss this year here, then I'm sure you'll be welcomed.

But for so, soooo many reasons, leave last year as part of last year. It literally has no bearing on this season. And, since many now commenting weren't even here then, there doesn't seem to be any good reason to litter the boards and drudge the disgust back up.

I wasn't the one who brought up last year here. But if I hear a false, or at the very least controversial statement like the Suns had no chance last year, I'm not going sit there and not post something about it. Also, you say nobody mentions the past? Isn't that brought up repeatedly in regard to a possible matchup between the Spurs and Suns?

You know what gets old? Thread police. Are you a moderator of this board? Didn't think so. Mind your own business.

And that was really cool when the Spurs won an elimination game on the road during one of their championship runs. Oh wait, it never happened.

[JMarkJohns]

I wasn't the one who brought up last year here. But if I hear a false, or at the very least controversial statement like the Suns had no chance last year, I'm not going sit there and not post something about it. Also, you say nobody mentions the past? Isn't that brought up repeatedly in regard to a possible matchup between the Spurs and Suns?

You know what gets old? Thread police. Are you a moderator of this board? Didn't think so. Mind your own business.

And that was really cool when the Spurs won an elimination game on the road during one of their championship runs. Oh wait, it never happened.

My post was a blanket cry out to the new Suns posters to check last season's baggage. It won't bring anything but disdain to your posts. Right or wrong doesn't exist. Only what did and did not happen. You weren't here. You wouldn't know the the good Suns fans had to wade through whilest homer trolls were littering this board with whiny baby posts. It sucked. I'm begging you not to be a part of a new wave of this. There's no good that can come from it. Nothing said can change what happened, and nothing you say will change the opinions of those here. It was what it was and that's that.

You can take this as moderation, which it's not, or both a plead and warning that no good will come from sticking your name flag into that heaping pile. It will only bring you scorn and frustration.

Do I think it was a ty ruling? Sure. Was it the rule. Yes. That's that. It sucked. It sucked and I lost my damn mind. If you let it, it will consume your every post here. Once certain posters know it gets your goat, they'll follow you poking and a prodding just cause. Since nothing you say can change their mind, and since you'll only appear as a last year obsessed Suns troll littering a Spurs board with posts belittling the Spurs, you'll have you name tied with the likes of da_suns_fan__, youcheatinheart and Danny B. They were a plague.

I'm really trying to do you a service. Take it or leave it...