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    Im really enjoying this series

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    Just wanted to bump this thread.

    I'm all caught up and hooked as well. Who knew Ben Franklin was such a ?

    Almost as good as Band Of Brothers...Tom Hanks should quit starring in movies and just make historical mini-series for HBO!

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    When episode 3 ended with John Adams sweating out a fever in bed I almost screamed at the TV....time just flies during that show.

    Only 4 more...

    Paul Giamatti was born for this series and Laura Linney is doing something for me...44 and looken fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.

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    Just wanted to bump this thread.

    I'm all caught up and hooked as well. Who knew Ben Franklin was such a ?

    Almost as good as Band Of Brothers...Tom Hanks should quit starring in movies and just make historical mini-series for HBO!
    There are, of course, many different takes on who was and wasn't a during the revolution. McCullough's treatment of Adams is among the most favorable; biographers of others, such as Jefferson and Franklin, are less so. I recently read a book covering Franklin's time in Paris, where he was sort of a ambassador without portfolio during the Revolutionary War, and there it was Adams made out to be the . With some justification.

    The truth is likely somewhere in the middle, but there is no doubt in my mind that Adams' role in the American Revolution has been overlooked by too many for too long.

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    There are, of course, many different takes on who was and wasn't a during the revolution. McCullough's treatment of Adams is among the most favorable; biographers of others, such as Jefferson and Franklin, are less so. I recently read a book covering Franklin's time in Paris, where he was sort of a ambassador without portfolio during the Revolutionary War, and there it was Adams made out to be the . With some justification.

    The truth is likely somewhere in the middle, but there is no doubt in my mind that Adams' role in the American Revolution has been overlooked by too many for too long.
    I guess I viewed the episode different because I thought it clearly showed both to be asses but Adams more so.

    But by the time Franklin went to France he was a legend already and quite full of himself.

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    When he walked in on Franklin and that French hag in the tub playing chess, I think I threw up in my mouth a little...


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    When he walked in on Franklin and that French hag in the tub playing chess, I think I threw up in my mouth a little...

    hahaha...that was awesome.

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    It's pretty freaky to think that not too long ago the French used to dress up like that.

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    They looked so uncomfortable.

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    It's pretty freaky to think that not too long ago the French used to dress up like that.
    Not too long ago? I'm sure they still do.

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    There are, of course, many different takes on who was and wasn't a during the revolution. McCullough's treatment of Adams is among the most favorable; biographers of others, such as Jefferson and Franklin, are less so. I recently read a book covering Franklin's time in Paris, where he was sort of a ambassador without portfolio during the Revolutionary War, and there it was Adams made out to be the . With some justification.

    The truth is likely somewhere in the middle, but there is no doubt in my mind that Adams' role in the American Revolution has been overlooked by too many for too long.

    The series is showing John Adams to be a hot headed, pretentious . His wife, Laura Linney, even got on his ass in the first episode for being so pretentious. Adams was extremely intelligent, and he liked to show it.

    As for Franklin, most historians would agree that he was a bit of a . He was a genius, and he knew it too.

    I would agree on your sentiment that Adams' role has been overlooked, but only because he opposed seccesion at first.

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    I was referring to McCullough's book, not the series which unfortunately I can't see since we don't have HBO. But yeah, Adams did like to show everyone who smart he was, and since he was smarter than most everyone he tended to piss everyone off.

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    Last episode this Sunday. Seems like they could have alloted twice as much time as they did.

    I think Giamatti is even better as old John Adams than he was young JA. Great job on the makeup.

    Morse knocked George Washington out of the ballpark. And the guy playing Jefferson has done a good job.

    I crack up every time they're doing a scene and suddenly there's some random flies buzzing.

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    The mini-series is fantastic. I've caught the first 4 and have seen parts of the 5th.

    Props to Laura Linney and her portrayal of Abagail Adams.

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    "the French used to dress up like that."

    17th and 18th E U R O P E dressed like that, including the Europeans in n. America. (there weren't Americans then)

    Laura Linney is one of my favorites, not the typical Hollywood/cable news bimbo fluff, sort of attractively plain, and credibly an adult woman.

    She's 44, and still working in show business!

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    I think I remember seeing somewhere that HBO is going to replay the whole series in sequence...maybe before episode 7.

    The book is fascinating. Reads more like a textbook than a novel, but I guess most biographies do.

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    always "fun" and informative to snoop around:

    "Adams did a great deal to earn the devastating assessment that has trailed him ever since Benjamin Franklin first quipped it in 1783: "He means well for his Country, and is always an honest Man, often a Wise One, but sometimes and in some things, absolutely out of his senses." "

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...d=opinionsbox1

    So what's HBO's corporate objective here?

    Try to expose the man as he really was, do ent history, or something else?

    Since HBO doesn't have to sell audiences to corporate advertizers, the accuracy of the John Adams presentation is completely on HBO.

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    Saw every one and loved it. I too accidently stumbled onto the first show and was hooked. I too didn't know how much Adams played a crucial role. It's a shame he's not reconized more.

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    Just watched the last one on DVR.

    Everybody dies.

    Didn't see that coming...


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    It was all good until that cornball ending.

    Adams and Jefferson both die on the 50th anniversary of the Declaration? Gimme a break.

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    It was all good until that cornball ending.

    Adams and Jefferson both die on the 50th anniversary of the Declaration? Gimme a break.
    Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction: Jefferson & Adams really did both die on 4 July 1826--50 years after the signing

    Part of Adams' being ignored by history is also due to his son John Quincy, who won the Presidency in a contoversial decision over the vastly more popular Andrew Jackson when the election was thrown into the House of Representatives

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