He paid alot for his insurance?
Still, I think it definitely deserves a suspension. Pop needs to send in the tapes, at least this once.
I think the Spurs didn't make a big deal out of this during the game because they were so focused on getting the win and didn't want to lose their own cool. They wanted to remain calm. However, after the game, it would be really ridiculous for Stackhouse not to get a suspension for this kind of stuff.
He's passionate...THE BALL BELONGS TO HIM! irritating cuz he can't b stopped no matter what u THROW at him@
http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archi...us-antics.html
Stack's sick of Manu's antics
1:53 PM Sun, Mar 23, 2008
Tim MacMahon
Jerry Stackhouse used Manu Ginobili's neck to help him get off the ground, and it's hard to blame him.
Ginobili used the old elbow-in-the-throat trick to box out Stack, then flopped. Once again, it worked.
Double fouls were called, but Stack got T'd up. Then Avery got T'd up.
This situation has the potential to get ugly.
Thomas and Udoka would be more than happy to oblige, I'm sure. But it won't happen on this team - they keep their cool.
However, it goes without saying that the Mavs have to be the most weak-minded team in the NBA. I don't think anyone can deny it.
Funny, I watched the whole game and only even saw him fall down twice (and one of those was the aforementioned Stackhouse neck grab).
So based off of him falling down once you concluded he was flopping all game?
Go back to your board.
Bull . Ginobili was not flopping this game at all. And I'd like for anyone who es about Ginobili "flopping" to get calls make an arguement for me on how exactly it's different than superstar players in this league and on every team who exaggerates contacts and initiates contact to get calls; Kobe, Rip Hamilton, Dirk, everyone does it. And it's just as annoying as Flopping.
And if fans want to see real flopping; See guys like Posey and Varejeo. Ginobili has cut back on his flopping a lot. He gets pushed around on the court just as much as anyone.
STFU. This is why I emphasized the neutral viewer aspect. Since you are a Spurs fan it is natural for you to overview some plays. If Ginobili is strong enough to finish amazing and 1s then he cannot be so weak that he flails on a screen/pick.
I don't view a flop as falling on the ground. Overemphasizing contact can get the job done too.
That's true. And the funny thing is, people have pointed and blamed Dirk for being the most weak-minded. When in fact it's guys like Stackhouse, Terry, Howard, and yes Avery who are the most weak-minded. Dirk is actually the toughest one on that team outside of Kidd now.
Instead of calling a timeout and getting his team back on track when the Spurs went on their 16-0 run, Avery spent his time ing the refs and following his team's lead on getting frazzled. I've seen Pop literally get in Ginobili's face and bench him when Ginobili has had games where he spent too much time ing to the refs instead of playing. Have you ever seen Avery do that? Instead, Avery gets in on the action and makes his players believe that it's justified. They should just be concentrating on the game.
Another case in point after the loss to the Lakers, when asked why they lost in the postgame; Avery f-ing points to the FT discrepency...
Avery is too volatile and gets too caught up with the ups and downs in a game and season. I can understand players getting caught up in it, but it's the coach's job to calm them down and get back on track. Avery doesn't know how to do that and that's why you see a Mavs team winning 67 games and then losing in the 1st round, or a Mavs team being up 18 points in a game, and then losing by 6, or being up 2-0 and almost 3-0 in a playoff game and then losing it.
"Ginobili was not flopping at all" You are being ignorant, but maybe I am too. He is not flopping every play, but he did it quite a few times though.
"Superstars exaggerate contact" Okay, but I don't think its as annoying as flopping
Again, point me to an all Star shooting guard who doesn't do that. "As a neautral viewer" I've seen Rip Hamilton flail on a screen/pick numerous times, I've seen Kobe do it, I've seen DWade do it. Yet why is it that Ginobili is the one labeled as a "flopper?" Probably cuz he's the one winning the rings.
He took down Shaq in the 2006 Finals. Of course his team got punked in that series.The stupidest thing about that whole thing; Avery Johnson actually convinced the ref to call that a double foul...
Stackhouse and Terry are little es and I hate that they think they can act that way against the Spurs. Would Stackhouse try that on Kobe or Lebron or DWade?
Stackhouse thinks he's better than the game itself. MJ? Remember that?
I never really heard people say that Rip is a flopper, but that's okay.Again, point me to an all Star shooting guard who doesn't do that. "As a neautral viewer" I've seen Rip Hamilton flail on a screen/pick numerous times, I've seen Kobe do it, I've seen DWade do it. Yet why is it that Ginobili is the one labeled as a "flopper?" Probably cuz he's the one winning the rings.
Wade, LeBron, Kobe. I agree on that.
Another dumbass comment at the end that destroys your post too. Good job. Ginobili is labeled as a flopper because he does it more than others.
Stack won't get suspended, I think.
Then again, you can't always predict what this front office will do.
You don't have to be a neutral observer to count how many times a player falls down. Just have a brain. Which you apparently lack.
As to your comment about screens/picks the only time any Spur player reacted to a pick today was when Howard shoved Bowen, and the refs called the offensive foul.
You obviously didn't watch today's game, so give it up.
Have you watched any Spurs games post-2005? Ginobili hardly, if ever flops any more, and that's a fact. People like Raja Bell and Kirilenko flop more. But keep in mind "flopping" is practically encouraged in the Euro leagues and international ones.
lmao at dallas in the lottery...
Dirk flopped more in this game prior to getting hurt than the entire Spurs team did all day, where is the lame ing from the Detroit fan about that?
Go away, troll.
Do you know how to read? Where did I write that people call Rip a flopper? That was my whole point...I've seen him flail of screens and exagerate contact...same as Wade, Lebron, Kobe and every other all star SG in this league. Yet why is it that when they all do it, they're just "aggressive" and Ginobili is a "flopper?"
Again, read what the I'm writing before you make a response that makes no sense.
It also takes a brain to read a post. People who have intellect can win an argument without insulting the other person.
Numerous amount of times I saw the refs call a foul when the Mavs would bring a big man to double. Manu would always get the foul call. It's a combination of Ginobili and the refs calling more fouls, but you cannot say that there were only two occasions where this sort of thing happened.
Let me guess, you are going to say some dumbass comment because I think your beloved Spur is not perfect, right?
You have a point on the first one. I used the flop instead of flail. Sorry, but I did not think that was a big deal.Do you know how to read? Where did I write that people call Rip a flopper? That was my whole point...I've seen him flail of screens and exagerate contact...same as Wade, Lebron, Kobe and every other all star SG in this league. Yet why is it that when they all do it, they're just "aggressive" and Ginobili is a "flopper?"
Again, read what the I'm writing before you make a response that makes no sense.
As for the second comment I think it makes sense. I thought the comment that "Ginobili is only called a flopper because he wins rings" was very ignorant. Calling that stupid makes perfect sense. Tim Duncan wins rings and I have never said that he is a flopper. Veraejo has won 0 rings and he is a major flopper. Do I make sense now?
Ohhhh, Himat is a Troll. I thought he was a serious poster.
Actually, I like Stack on the floor for Dallas. He's the least clutch player on their team, and the easiest to irritate. Dallas was only down 5 (and climbing back into it) when he got that dumb second T and got tossed. If he had NOT gotten T'd up, and maybe Manu misses one, it's still a two possession game with like 13 seconds left left. Then again, if he didn't do something stupid, he wouldn't be Stack.
Wait, so when the Mavs foul Manu, he was flopping?Numerous amount of times I saw the refs call a foul when the Mavs would bring a big man to double. Manu would always get the foul call.Okay, now I know you're a troll. Thanks for playing.
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