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    Cool, go for Donnie Nelson.

    Just makes going through the west easier for the Spurs.
    I would think Dirk's injury and Avery sitting on our bench makes it easier for the Spurs. But what do I know, I've only lived and died with my team all year and could probably dissect them inside and out, just like you can do with the Spurs.

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    And once we were there, Riley ran circles around Avery. Just like Nellie ran circles around Avery a year later. This team has peaked, and Avery's usefulness to the Mavs has peaked as well. Maybe if you watched more than the four games a year the Spurs play against Dallas or had a clue you'd realize that.

    Endorsing Avery's dismissal does not mean I want Nellie back or prefer his approach. That's a false paradigm you've set up, but that's nothing new with you.


    Obviously I was not suggesting that Nelson would be his replacement nor that you would want him back. But you have someone who took that franchise to the next level for the first time.

    Of course, it's not surprising that you couldn't figure that out.

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    Talking about next year not this year.

    But you don't seem to know, your moving between this year and next year like you have add.

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    Obviously I was not suggesting that Nelson would be his replacement nor that you would want him back. But you have someone who took that franchise to the next level for the first time.
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    Dirk and Avery together took this franchise to a place they had never been. Avery deserves a ton of credit for where this thing has gone since Nellie quit like a .

    But things aren't static. It's not 2006 anymore. I think Avery up until the Warriors series could've been forgiven for Riley outcoaching him, because Riley outcoaches a lot of people and Avery had done great things with this team. But he accepted no responsibility whatsoever for the Warriors series, he just threw Dirk under a bus when Dirk didn't lose that series by himself and when Avery badly got worked over himself. And that's just part of the problem with Avery. He preaches leadership and toughness but demonstrates none himself. He can't be counted on to make common-sense in-game adjustments.

    He's a good coach and he'll work again in this league, but his usefulness in Dallas is at an end. If the players are tuning him out, and there's ample evidence of that happening, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong, he needs to go in favor of somebody who they'll listen to.

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    Talking about next year not this year.

    But you don't seem to know, your moving between this year and next year like you have add.
    The Mavs need to make some personnel moves in addition to changing coaches. I'll get back to you in October once I see how the roster shakes out.

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    Avery is the only reason that the Mavs are a threat to the le. Without him they would be the 60 win 100ppg scoring team that no one would be scared of. In the last 3 years this is the only team that has beaten the Spurs.

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    Avery is the only reason that the Mavs are a threat to the le. Without him they would be the 60 win 100ppg scoring team that no one would be scared of.
    Avery isn't the only coach who will preach defense and instruct them to dole out hard fouls.

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    Avery's problem is that he coaches for a team whose ownership believes it knows more about basketball than he does.

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    Avery's problem is that he coaches for a team whose ownership believes it knows more about basketball than he does.
    Mark Cuban is not the only person wondering what is the purpose of acquiring Jason Kidd if he's going to sit out the last possession against the Spurs or only play 27 minutes in a big home game against the Lakers. If you're not going to let him run the offense, what was the purpose of trading for him? If Avery didn't think he was the right PG for this team, why not say so before altering 1/4 of the roster 2 months before the playoffs started?

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    If Avery didn't think he was the right PG for this team, why not say so before altering 1/4 of the roster 2 months before the playoffs started
    maybe he did and Cuban told him to STFU.

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    maybe he did and Cuban told him to STFU.
    Who knows what the story is? If Cuban is initiating personnel moves, then it's just a big, dysfunctional mess.

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    Theres reports that Cuban was the big initiator of the Jason Kidd trade.

    I believe that 100% honestly.

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    Theres reports that Cuban was the big initiator of the Jason Kidd trade.

    I believe that 100% honestly.
    I find that hard to believe because Avery was so hard on Devin and wouldn't let him off the leash. Dirk was probably the biggest driving force for the trade, he was 100% in favor of it.

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    Supposedly Cuban initiated the talks.

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    Supposedly Cuban initiated the talks.
    The guys around him outside of Dirk, Josh and Jet are not a great fit for his skills. They should've done this in the offseason or waited until this summer. It was a mistake I think to do it around the trading deadline.

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    Avery is a great coach, but his biggest problem is he tries to control everything/thinks he can control everything. See: 2006 NBA Finals

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    Avery. I never want to see him back in SA.

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    Who gives a crap about the Mavs? Its like having a discussion about the Timberwolves or Heat.

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    Who gives a crap about the Mavs? Its like having a discussion about the Timberwolves or Heat.
    ...except one is a potential le contender and the other two have a shot at the #1 pick in the draft.

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    Who gives a crap about the Mavs? Its like having a discussion about the Timberwolves or Heat.
    The Mavs are the only team in the West to beat the Spurs in the last 3 years.

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    Murphy's Law has been in effect for the Mavs in the last 10 months. They're going to have to either deal Kidd this summer because his expiring will be attractive to some teams or get some athletes that can run the floor with him. He's at his best in the open court. We scored only 23 points today in transition, and 58 in half-court. Ouch!

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    Supposedly Cuban initiated the talks.
    I recall reading a report somewhere that Cuban re-initiated talks of the Kidd trade with Nets GM Rod Thorn around the time of a Mavs road game versus Nets, just before the ASG in Feb.

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    Avery. I never want to see him back in SA.

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    The Mavs are the only team in the West to beat the Spurs in the last 3 years.
    And the Spurs were the only team in the West to eliminate the Pistons in the Larry Brown era. Now and go have fantasies about how your one hit wonder team will get eliminated yet again this season.

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    The Mavs are the only team in the West to beat the Spurs in the last 3 years.
    So what? The Mavs needed seven games to do it and the Spurs had all of their Big 3 playing injured in that series. I give the Mavs major props for turning into the 1996 Chicago Bulls any time they play us, but do realize that the Mavs barely avoided having their Annual Playoffs Choke in May instead of June in 2006.

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