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"Oh, and KG. And Wade, forgot Wade. Geez, Nash, how could I not remember him? Then again, Howard is having an amazing year in Orlando. And Boozer is one of 5 guys averaging 20+/10+, so can't exclude him. Uh... did I say 5?"
Look at the history of players in that range, while you will find the occassional contributor, most are marginal players or busts.
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"Oh, and KG. And Wade, forgot Wade. Geez, Nash, how could I not remember him? Then again, Howard is having an amazing year in Orlando. And Boozer is one of 5 guys averaging 20+/10+, so can't exclude him. Uh... did I say 5?"
Yea i'm thinking there's no way Dirk is top 5.
Kobe
Lebron
KG
Duncan
Paul
Nash
Boozer
DWilliams
Carmelo
Wade
, Dirk isn't even top 10. Dirk belongs in the next tier with Amare, Kidd, Pierce, etc.
Dallas Mavericks forward and seven-time All Star Dirk Nowitzki, who left yesterday's game at the 3:18 mark of the third quarter, was re-evaluated today. An MRI confirmed he suffered a moderate high left ankle sprain and a mild left knee sprain. He is currently walking in a protective boot without crutches. No timetable is set for his return.
Whew! This season is done, but at least this isn't something catastrophic like Chris Webber blowing out his knee.
good news. looked alot worse.
Why are people including Dywane Wade in top-5 or top-10 discussion? I didn't know one-dimensional injury-prone players are deserving of that status. He's more focused on his commercials these days.
No ing way for KG, Nash, Boozer, Deron, Carmello, or Wade.
KG is the most overrated superstar in the NBA today BY FAR. Not even close to the level of Duncan or Dirk. Anyone who compares him is an idiot that just looks at his dunks and excessive screaming, thinking it actually means something, when he has never won .
Wade is completely out of the discussion as he is the leader of the worst team in the league. How the can you let your team have the worst record in the NBA in THE EAST?!?!?!?!
Nash is nice, but no way am I building a team around him before Dirk. Keep in mind that Nash gets the majority of his plays and shots off of picks. Almost everything Dirk does is off of isolations, yet he still managed to average over 26 ppg. Thats pretty impressive.
Carmello hasnt won despite some immensly talented teams.
Boozer and Williams are two big stars that work hand in hand with each other. Dirk is doing everything as the sole star of his team.
Give me Dirk anyday over all of those guys. And imagine if Dirk had someone like Marcus Camby backing him up with Andre Miller/Allen Iverson running point? How about Deron Williams playing point, or Carlos Boozer helping cleaning up down low? Or perhaps a team full of 40% 3pt shooters to kick out to when you can't create something inside like Nash? Instead, he has the brainless wonders of Josh Howard and Jason Terry, who are talented players, that consistently do weird that leaves you scratching your head, wondering how an NBA player could make such a dumb mistake.
Simply replace Dirk with any of those players, and the Mavs struggle to make the playoffs, and no way in do they even sniff the Finals.
KG - No
Wade - no
Nash - No
Howard - No
KG overrated? If anything the dude is underrated for wasting most of his career in Minnesota by being so loyal to that ty franchise. The dude is deserving of 1st team all defensive every year he's been in the league, while averaging a consistant 20 and 10. Dirks and KG's offensive numbers are very comparable while defensively its not even close. Wade out of the question because of his team deciding to tank this season? Bull . Just 2 short years ago he single handedly led a team of washed up scrubs to a championship while making Dirk his . And don't pull the Dirk is doing it all by himself card. He has plenty of talent backing him up.
KG will win a ring this year so that will fix that. He is not overrated as he is plays great defense, rebounds, and shoots a good percentage from midrange. His only weakness is not being able to take over games but you couldn't ask for a better all-around player in the league.
Carmelo > Dirk?
Really?
The biggest thing the Mavs need is a "dirty work" guy. Everyone on our team is either too finesse or too lazy to do dirty work. Josh Howard was the one guy we could always count on for that, but apparently after being named an All-Star he thinks he's above doing dirty work now.
The guy in your avatar is an unrestricted FA this summer.
He would be a great pickup. I hated losing him the first time around.
All KG does is shoot turnaround jumpers, and garbage work down low. Anyone who truly watches the guy sees that he does not have a very good offensive skillset. He has minimal post moves. His best move is a turnaround jumper. When it comes to garbage work, he is one of the best ive ever seen. But when it comes to taking over games, and making big plays, he doesn't do .
The Wade argument is full of too. And before the team started tanking, they were sucking ass as well. Talentwise, Wade is an incredible talent, no question.
and I did pull the Dirk is doing it by himself card. how the can you even think about comparing Josh Howard and Jason Terry to guys like Carlos Boozer or Deron Williams, Allen Iverson, and Shaq? You are outside your mother ing mind.
Just because you are pissed about the season not going the way we would have liked doesnt mean you have to and moan about every thing humanly possible, especially Dirk who has been the SOLE bright spot for this season as everything has gone to around him. This season has truly helped myself, as well as many fans of other teams that I personally know, that hate the Mavericks, appreciate how good of a player that Dirk Nowitzki really is.
His "great" defense consistently gets him owned by guys like Dirk and Duncan. Dirk completely kicked his ass the other night against Boston. He outplayed him in every way, shape, and form. He was a killer on the boards, in scoring, and defended Garnett a of a lot better than Garnett defended Dirk. The only good defensive play KG had on Dirk ALL GAME was a block early in the game. But when it was at the end of the game, Dirk had a block and a couple key stops on Garnett, only to have guys like Stack and Howard things up by leaving Ray Allen wide open on numerous occasions.
And that ability to take over games is what sets all-stars apart from superstars. Dirk can take over a game. Garnett cannot, because he is a garbage type player.
Najera + lottery pick + s&t for Maggette + Del Harris at HC would make me very happy in the offseason. I'd be willing to not demand a complete blowup of the team.
man, if we could have Maggette and Kidd together, that would be nice.
Kidd
Maggette
Wright
Dirk
Dampier
That would be awesome. Kidd as the distributer, Maggette as the relentless slasher/driver, Wright as the hustler, Dirk as the leader, and if Damp plays the way he has been, I'm just fine with him.
It could be where Devean George & his got Bird rights are of some use. Would they take a Howard/George for Maggette deal?
The biggest problem with that lineup is that we get even worse shooting the ball, though.
Dirk isn't a top 5 player in the league but he's top 10.
Lol... what happened to Dirk in 2003 in the playoffs? What happened this year?
Then again... what happened to Dirk in the NBA Finals? What happened to Dirk in the 1st round last year?
Injury-prone and one-dimensional vs injury-prone and disappears in big games.
go look at Dirk's career numbers.....he's anything but injury prone you ignorant .
can someone please tell Okla here to go post in the college forum and waste people's time over there gushing over his two-bit NIT team, instead of in here or the NFL Forum where he proves just what an uneducated Okie moron he is?
The problem with the Mavs is that they are a jumpshooting team with absolutely no interior presence at all. Their defense is designed to make the opposing team into a jumpshooting team and then have a jumpshot contest (which the Mavs usually win because they are a good jumpshooting team). The problem with that is that when teams that thrive off of paint points (Spurs, for example) lock down the perimeter (like yesterday), the Mavs are still stuck shooting contested jumpshots while the opposing team is attacking the rim, either scoring or getting to the line. I'm not saying the Mavs never get into the paint because that would be false, but they don't do it near as much as they should.
FinDog, I want you to change your name to "Chief Sky Is Falling".
It's been a tough 21 months for Mavs fans, so you'll have to excuse the pessismism and frustration. You haven't been here that long, I was the one preaching patience and a glass half full approach while mono was all about doom and gloom.
Even that great regular season and MVP award can't be remembered fondly because of what directly followed it.
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