It may be "like" saying that, to you...but I'm not saying that. You are adding that to what I said.
if they will have an injury or not.
I don't see how you are drawing that conclusion.
It simply means these games meaningless to me right now.I do care when they win a trophy then I am a fan.
I don't have a doubt they will make the playoffs...
To me what you are saying is like, you don't have faith in them to make the playoffs...you are silly.
I liked our defense in the game. The offense was horrible but we missed a lot of shots we normally make. As for why the offense was horrible, it was because we weren't moving the ball that much. We need to keep the ball moving-that's what sparked the 19-0 run. The Spurs quit playing isolations and started moving the ball. Thankfully we got a bad offensive night out of the way with a win.
that's exactly what you could expect after the Kidd trade's meltdown (Devean "No way I'm giving my Bird's rights up" George + Jerry "I can't control my big mouth" Stackhouse).
People were wondering how chemistry would react to that. Well...
Add the fact that Kidd was Cuban's and not AJ's choice...
That one defensive set in the 3rd quarter when the Spurs were making their run, the one where JVG had ABC replay and claimed it was a thing of beauty that brought a tear to his eye, was amazing.
Is the Jason Kidd trade officially the most successful trade in Spurs history?
The Ason Kidd trade is the most successful trade in any Mavs opponent's history.
Those that refuse to study their history of failure are doomed to repeat that failure over and over again. There was many reasons the Mavs got rid of Ason Kidd the first time and at least that time, the Mavs got the better end of the deal.
I completely disagree. Spurs showed championship caliber defense for the first time in the season. If they play the kind of defense they played in the 2nd half, we are a lock to win the le.
IMO they flipped the switch yesterday
I was actually encouraged by this game by the Spurs. The defensive effort really impressed me. My observation, from watching the Spurs over the years, is that when the defensive intensity gets ramped up to playoff level the Spurs offense starts to find itself. With TD and Parker shooting 11 for 42 combined and the Spurs still winning says a lot. Dirk or no Dirk the Spurs win this game. In fact, I thought the loss of Dirk took a little bit of the edge off the Spurs and I got worried because it appeared that they relaxed just a bit. They did a nice job of getting re-focused and putting the game away.
Spurs hit a higher percentage and they would have won this game by 20. The Mavs misses were all contested while the Spurs were missing a lot of open looks.
When the Spurs find their offense they're going to be ready to make some post season noise.
ja mean feenix
Like Ed, I took some encouragement from the defensive effort. To shoot 3.6% for the first half and not be looking at a triple digit deficit has to say something. And at the risk of sounding Spursdynastic one fluke washes the other. While I don't expect the Spurs to go crazy from the free throw line, I also don't expect to see them shoot that poorly ever again. They were just shooting some shots they were supposed to hit. No surprises there.
I agree with the asterisk part.
The main reason I posted what I posted is that many fans are not with the team in the season. They don't care about ups and downs and they don't follow the team. That's why the "injury conclusion".
That post was not directed just towards you.
And realy I can't question your fanbase. I've been here long enough. And yea most people forgetting for how long I've been here even if there is this first spurs under my username.
Good note. Mavs usually kill us on the boards
I liked the Spurs' defense in that run in the third quarter. That was very good defense. However, outside of when the Spurs made that third quarter run, the Mavs shot 50% from the field the rest of the game. I fail to see where all this supposedly great defense was played.
That five or six minute stretch in the third was nice defense. The rest of the game was either average or bad defense. Allowing the Mavs to shoot 50% for a vast majority of the game isn't a good sign, in my opinion. Especially with all the adversity the Mavs are going through right now.
That 19-0 run was nice and was definitely Spurs Basketball. But the Spurs can't play 42 minutes of average to bad defense and six minutes of great defense and expect to beat quality teams.
I honestly thought the Spurs played better for longer in recent losses against the Celtics, Pistons and Suns. But yeah, Spurs hit their free throws against the Mavs and came away with the W ... so apparently it's all good.
One of the positive strategies Pop employed in that 3rd quarter run was putting Tim on Kidd and TP on Dirk and then switching the screens. It worked amazingly well, but would never have worked with Devin Harris. Kidd isn't as fast as he used be (not "Harris" quick). Once Dirk went out, the Spurs trapped the 2 scorers on the floor and left Kidd open. They also sagged on the hand-off slashes, typically leaving the wings open. It worked and Dallas could not recover.
Major bench contributions from Ime Udoka, Jacque Vaughn, Kurt Thomas. Ime was especially good on help defense.
Ginobili was so focused and agressive in the 2nd half, he even went over the back fouling teammate Ime Udoka to snag a rebound.
Questions:
1. Does Mike Finley do anything full speed any more?
2. Will Udoka ever be able to be trusted inbounding on the side out-of-bounds?
3. Will TP and Kurt ever get in sync on the high screen/roll?
Good analysis Solid D. Tim on Kidd and Tony on Dirk seemed to either take away their pick n roll or it forced them into isolation basketball which possibly took away their offensive movement. Or, they just missed a lot of wide open jumpers.
I think Finley is basically done with perhaps one, maybe two good playoffs games left in him. He's a great guy but shouldn't be back next season. He makes about 20 million a year so I don't feel too bad in saying they guy had a great career but he has nothing left and should retire. Same for Horry. Same for Damon. Bones might have one year left.
Even if we win a le this year, next year will be interesting.
Let's hope the team continues to work hard and luck keeps helping us out. Injuries to the Lakers, Rockets, and Mavs have put us in a better position than them. Our threats: Hornets, Jazz, and Nuggets (only because they play dirty and could take one our stars out.) The Suns I'm not too worried about. I think we would be favored. Shaq only has 3 games to offer in a 7 game series.
Sorry for the tangents...
I also agree that this wasn't as "bad" a win as timvp is making it out to be, just like I've been disagreeing with all the "good loss" analyses.
I thought the fact that it was a good sign that the Spurs were able to stay within 10 in the first half despite shooting about 25%. Uglification of the game when they aren't playing well is classic Spurs Basketball of yore. The dilettante three-point shooting Spurs of recent times would have been down by 20, but these Spurs compensated for crappy shooting by getting to the line. I hope they remember that lesson in the playoffs.
The 19-0 stretch was caused by a pickup in defensive intensity that made me believe for the first time all year that they might actually be able to flip a switch come playoff time. I'm not totally convinced yet, but there was finally a sign.
Having said that I do agree that the Mavs are playing like crap and so it's hard to say if the Spurs can replicate what they did against sombody like Orlando. But the Mavs, like the Rockets, are always going to play the Spurs tight no matter how off they happen to be at the time.
ROFL. You should go back to the drawing board with this take. The Spurs shot the same number of three-pointers and the same number of free throws that they've averaged all season. Actually, they would have shot less free throws if the Mavs weren't intentionally fouling at the end of the game. In that 19-0 run, the Spurs just basically got hot from three-point land. Their only free throw attempts were and-1's.
If the Spurs would have shot their normal free throw percentage and lost, you'd be in here calling out the "dilettante" Spurs. But because the Spurs hit their free throws and Dirk didn't get to shoot his customary dozen fourth quarter free throws against the Spurs, suddenly timvp is being too mean to the team
The 24 FTA they had for the game was actually what they averaged during their BEST year of the last 3-4 years.
And in the first half, they had 13 FTA, which projects to 26 FTA/game, which is way above their season average, and above any average in the last 5 years.
Apology accepted.
hehe
FT is the same piece of a win cake as the defense and offense, picks whateva
The Spurs average 11 FTA per half this season. So they shot two more free throws in the first half than the "dilettante" Spurs you've been complaining about? Alert the trophy inscribers
And in that second half that made you believe, the Spurs shot 11 three-pointers and seven free throws. That's "worse" in both areas.
If the Spurs would have played exactly the same but instead shot their average from the line and lost, would you be as happy? You complain about me saying some losses aren't the end of the world yet you are here satisfied in a game where the Spurs played well for about six or eight minutes. The rest of the game the Spurs let the Mavs shoot 50% from the floor.
I don't get the Spurs fans who can be depressed when the team plays 30-35 quality minutes against a team like the quality Celtics or Pistons and lose, but then are satisfied when the Spurs play 6-8 good minutes against a team in disarray like the Mavs and win. It makes no sense to me. The Spurs play like they did against the Celtics and they win more than half the time in the playoffs. The Spurs play like they did against the Mavs and they lose 99% of the time in the playoffs. Yet I'm supposed to be happier with the Mavs game than the Celtics game?
The "Spurs win? Yeah! Spurs lose? Boo!" philosophy only kicks in for me during the playoffs. The regular season, I'm happier if the Spurs play 47 great minutes and lose than if the Spurs play 1 great minute and win. It's all about what is and isn't transferable to the playoffs and against the Mavs, I only saw about six or eight minutes of transferable play.
Spurs abused the mavs like in the old days. they did not need to play full blast defense for the rest of the game. everyone saw the mavs were folding after Dirk went down and the 2 technicals.
ugly wins with stretches of great defense , that's been classis spurs ball for the last few years.
once playoffs come, if spurs bring that defense they played in the 3rd quarter, we'll be allright.
LJ - shoog debates are entertaining reads
MIF: The Spurs' 11 FTA per half ranks 27th in the league. 13 FTA per half would rank them 11th in the league.The Spurs average 11 FTA per half this season. So they shot two more free throws in the first half than the "dilettante" Spurs you've been complaining about? Alert the trophy inscribers
RIF: I didn't say the second half made me believe. I said the stretch in the third quarter. Once Dirk went out, it was bizzaro land with nothing interpretable from it.And in that second half that made you believe, the Spurs shot 11 three-pointers and seven free throws. That's "worse" in both areas.
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