Pistons beat the Suns today without Rip

[jacobdrj]

Baron can't stay healthy, otherwise I would agree. I would take a younger Kidd too... he is a better defender and passer, as well as an inferior shooter.

[CarefreeAZ]

WHoo-WHoo-WHoo -save your foolish comments to some other board - no offensive language here, OK(!) - usually, when someone is weak and cannot say anything positive, he starts using slurs, which pretty much shows that his education and culture level is below ZERO...I don't even speak with "people" like that...either have civilized discussion or GET LOST...

Your right, I should have continued my educational pursuits and finished that Master's Degree program. Who knows, I could have displayed it so eloquently like yourself by randomly capitalizing words and bolding paritial sentences.

[GaryJohnston]

Sheed really schooled Amare there at the end of the game.

[kskonn]

WHoo-WHoo-WHoo -save your foolish comments to some other board - no offensive language here, OK(!) - usually, when someone is weak and cannot say anything positive, he starts using slurs, which pretty much shows that his education and culture level is below ZERO...I don't even speak with "people" like that...either have civilized discussion or GET LOST...

Forum police???

[kskonn]

Your right, I should have continued my educational pursuits and finished that Master's Degree program. Who knows, I could have displayed it so eloquently like yourself by randomly capitalizing words and bolding paritial sentences.

You should have finished that masters degree program, depending on your occupation it could greatly increase your earning power. From someone who did finish his Master degree program it is overated, I should have waited longer after getting my undergrad to go back, I would have gotten more out of the program.

[kskonn]

Sheed really schooled Amare there at the end of the game.

Sheed is still incredible when he has his head on straight and isn't constantly shooting 3's, probably the 2nd best all around pf in the game, when he wants to be.

[himat]

Sheed is still incredible when he has his head on straight and isn't constantly shooting 3's, probably the 2nd best all around pf in the game, when he wants to be.

I'll give him third behind TD and KG.

[peskypesky]

I'll give him third behind TD and KG.

You smoking?
I'd take a bunch of PF's before Sheed. TD, Garnett, Boozer, Bosh, Stoudamire, David West, Dirk, Elton Brand, Antawn Jamison and yeah, maybe even Pau Gasol.

[JamStone]

Think he meant Rasheed would be third...

"when he has his head on straight and isn't constantly shooting 3's... when he wants to be"

Rasheed has the talent to be the best PF in the league but he's not and has never been at any point in his career.

[StoneCutter]

I think the East is a LOT better than we give it credit for, because defensive teams take a couple of times, generally, to find out how to lock down high powered offensive teams. The reason the Spurs are so successful is that they play East-Ball in the West...

I think our conference is just better, and the Suns, like most West teams, just aren't as good as their records may show. It will make for a fun playoffs, but the NBA champion, in all likelihood, looks like it is coming out of the East, or the Spurs...

Phili, Cleveland, and even Washington, not to mention Toronto and Orlando, are actually as good or BETTER than their matched-seeded counterparts...
I think even THEY are better than the West elite...

I think it is why the Bucks and the Heat are so bad, despite being the the East, they just don't play D.

I have to say, no Western team scares me, other than the Spurs. But the Cavs, Sixers, Wizards and Celtics do...

I agree that the Pistons and the Celtics are as good or possibly better then any team in the West, but to say that Philadelphia, Washington, Toronto and Orlando are better then the West Elite is taking it too far IMHO.

[urunobili]

Boston and Detroit are the only teams that has a legitimate shot at winning it all in the East. There are at least 5 contenders in the West. Orlando and Cleveland may be able to have an amazing run and make it to the Finals, but I can't see them winning it all.

i think LeBron will make the Celtics pay on the second round...

[Sec24Row7]

You smoking?
I'd take a bunch of PF's before Sheed. TD, Garnett, Boozer, Bosh, Stoudamire, David West, Dirk, Elton Brand, Antawn Jamison and yeah, maybe even Pau Gasol.

You are smoking crack.

TD, Sheed, KG.

That is the correct ranking for Power Forwards in the league.

Sheed has the COMPLETE package... and if he had a mind to do it... might be #1... But he doesn't.

[SouthernFried]

ayup, Billups is underrated. Always has been as far as I can recall. Same with the Detroit team.

I would say the Spurs have been underrated, but, after 4 Championships, even if they are stinkin' it up...everybody's watching 'em. "Yeah, they look horrible right now...but they always do this. I ain't counting them out of anything."

, we're probably even a little overrated this year.

Still, my dream finals is Detroit vs. SA. Wanted it last year, but I can't say I'm unhappy with the outcome

[bdubya]

Rip was out, which costs us a few points, but Lindsey was in, which probably cost Phx a few too.

There were blown calls going both ways, but the Suns got the brunt of it, and still took it to OT in spite of the home cooking. Not bad; I'd have to say they played the Pistons a little tougher than the Spurs did.

[JamStone]

I will take a healthy Baron Davis over Billups in a heartbeat. Baron is a legit superstar when he is healthy and playing his game. He can shoot, drive, post up, and is alot stronger and much more of a matchup issue than Billups is for a majority of teams. Billups is a nice all-star point guard who can do it all but he isnt a superstar.

Baron Davis is by far the better talent. Not sure if he's a better point guard. I would take Baron over Billups if it were based just on athleticism and explosiveness. But, Baron does has his flaws as a point guard. He doesn't really control tempo, he has bad shot selection, and could be a better free throw shooter.

Being a superstar doesn't make you automatically the better player. Manu Ginobili isn't near the superstar Dwyane Wade is, but I take Manu over Wade.

[O-Factor]

I think Suns beat the Celtics. I think Doc is starting to play the big three less since the #1 seed is pretty much locked up.

I think the Celts playing Cassell more has kind of hurt them a bit. But maybe they are just trying to get him acclimated for the playoffs

[DDS4]

Baron Davis is by far the better talent. Not sure if he's a better point guard. I would take Baron over Billups if it were based just on athleticism and explosiveness. But, Baron does has his flaws as a point guard. He doesn't really control tempo, he has bad shot selection, and could be a better free throw shooter.

Being a superstar doesn't make you automatically the better player. Manu Ginobili isn't near the superstar Dwyane Wade is, but I take Manu over Wade.

BD and Billups have different responsibilities on their respective teams.

BD is a shoot first PG and the first option on the Warriors. Billups is asked to run the team and if needed, bail out the offense if play breaks down or if there's no time on the shot clock.

Almost two different positions IMO.

[himat]

Just to show you how good Sheed is (This made me want a Spurs-Pistons rematch badly)

[TampaDude]

Just to show you how good Sheed is (This made me want a Spurs-Pistons rematch badly)

+1 It would be another one for the ages...probably go 7 games again, too...Spurs and Pistons for all the marbles...LET'S GET IT ON!!!