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Didn't know Rip was out...couldn't watch the game...Pistons would've won by even more if he had played...
It was a bad call but not the reason why they lost.
Didn't know Rip was out...couldn't watch the game...Pistons would've won by even more if he had played...
Suns should just let it go. God bless and good night.
And the entire NBA owns the Mavs!!
You win the thread. Your prize is 9001 internets.
It's wrong to always complain about the refs, but at some point the league has to step up and admit there's a concern with consistency and the work done by their guys. This game, the Lakers/Warriors game late last night, some of the calls in the Mavs games I've seen recently, and on and on...it happens in just about every game. How can they continue to put out what they think is a quality product when it's obviously tainted by the subpar work of some of the most visible figures on the court?
s0ns fans had no problem when the refs wouldn't foul out shaq/amare during the Spurs/S0ns game so stfu.
All phx does is about the refs. Something needs to be done to fix these worthless MF'ers and have some consistency though.
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if pistons had rip...they win by 10+ and no OT. to the suns fan that named about 10 "ifs"
that might not have been a foul by Nash, but it was a makeup call because on the other side of the court in the previous play, there was no foul by Billups on Nash.
Welcome to the NBA crybaby suns, where makeup calls happen
regardless of the other missed call(foul on shaq), Pistons would have still won. stop your crying es
Same story as atm losing to UCLA: if you are going to put the game in the position for the refs to make or break it, you might not have deserved to win, anyway.
I say ....no CAlls the last minute of the game unless there is blood!
Now Pistons fans know how it feels to play against the Baby Suns. Imagine if you had to deal with this kind of nonsense from that team, its players, and fans 4 games in the regular season...PLUS an playoff series where the whining and excuses increases 10 fold.
Yeah that one foul and the Chauncey drive were bad calls, but that is about it. The Raja Bell foul was actually correct and that's the one D'Antoni cried over the most.
Are they seriously like this after every loss?
And I thought the Pistons were the biggest whiners.
But it didn't. Stop with the ifs
I can name 1 or 2 things that the Pistons could of done differently against SA in Game 7 that would of won us a championship. It did not happen though so get over it.
Don't mind the Suns or Suns fans complaining. The Pistons and Pistons fan whine about officiating in abundance. Shaq was hacked. I think referees don't even care anymore. They won't call a foul for Shaq unless he's fully battered and assaulted. Nash's quote is cute. It was an either or call. Could have been a charge. Could have been a block. Nash can't talk because he got two free throws when he was passing the ball. He didn't mention that. But, again, lots of players and moan about calls. I don't mind it if the Suns and their fans want to vent a little.
And, I definitely don't mind the home cooking officiating.
Well, your logic is incorrect again, as both UCLA and the Pistons had the refs "make it" for them to win.
Suns complain about the refs, nothing new there.
and theres more....
Az Republic:
Suns drop tough one to Pistons
Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 24, 2008 07:26 PM
AUBURN HILLS, Mich. - The Suns have had excruciatingly close losses and frustratingly bad ones. They have been embarrassingly overwhelmed and knowingly outworked.
But not once all season had the Suns been as angry after a loss as they were following Monday night's 110-105 overtime defeat against Detroit at the Palace of Auburn Hills. They headed for Boston feeling good about the way they scored and defended against a powerhouse team despite having a seven-game win streak end.
They just felt outmanned.
"We played well enough to win," Suns forward Grant Hill said. "It's just hard five against eight."
The Suns could find fault with themselves for losing a 94-89 lead with 2:40 to go in regulation, with one Detroit offensive rebound providing a late Rasheed Wallace 3-pointer and another denying them a chance at a winning shot. But it was hard for them to focus on those plays or the missed shots down the stretch of overtime when they were so furious with the officiating.
"We had our chances to win," Suns guard Steve Nash said. "We didn't get the calls."
Suns video coordinator Noel Gillespie was the most popular man in the postgame locker room, because players wanted to look at the calls that had them seething after Detroit had scored the game's final six points. Two particular calls raised their ire.
With the Suns leading 94-92 after Wallace's 3-pointer off a Rodney Stuckey rebound, Shaquille O'Neal missed inside when he was hit across the face by Antonio McDyess and slapped across the left arm by Stuckey with no call. McDyess said after the game that he was fouling in hack-a-Shaq mode.
"I wish they wouldn't have had help," O'Neal said of the Pistons. "I sure wish those people (officials Joe Forte, Michael Smith and Sean Wright) would get a little more consistent in how they call a game. I know I got fouled down there. It ain't no all ball. (Expletive) that. I know I got fouled, and there's a ref standing there. He should have (expletive) called it. I got chopped in the head. He should have (expletive) called it. Period.
"It'd been a different game if they'd done what they're supposed to do. They had help."
A blocking foul on Nash for a Chauncey Billups' 3-point play with 1:01 to go also had Phoenix fired up. The Suns led 105-104 when Nash tried to take a charge on Billups' drive. Billups converted for a 107-105 lead. Nash missed a jumper to tie the score, and O'Neal was called for a foul on the rebound, setting up two McDyess free throws that made the lead 109-105 with 45.9 seconds to go. Wallace blocked an Amaré Stoudemire fadeaway on the next play.
"We got hosed down the stretch," Hill said. "It was just bad. Rasheed's agreeing with you about the foul situation. Then you know you got screwed."
The Suns still came a long way from the team that lost to Detroit by 30 in Phoenix on Feb. 24, when O'Neal was in his third game with the Suns.
They were outrebounded for just the third time in O'Neal's 17-game Suns career. The 16 second-chance Pistons points hurt as well as 16 Suns turnovers for 20 Pistons points.
Stoudemire led Phoenix with 33 points, including 15 on free throws, but Billups countered with his own 15 free throws to finish with 32 points.
"It's not a really bad loss," Nash said. "Everyone's disappointed and angry. We felt like we played well enough to win and feel like, in some ways, it was taken from us."
LMAO just like the way they feel we took the Championship away from them last year hahahahaha.
they're just crying about the games they're supposed to
So are they going to fine Shaq or Nash?
The only thing more pathetic then whining, is whining about whining. So congratz you win!
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