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    They do care, they just thought they were more secure than they were. They were arrogant and figured they could manipulate the people and the owner into doing it their way. Now they are scrambling because they know how horribly wrong they were.

    Its easy to say about San Antonio, but the situtaion could never be reversed because the Spurs are the only show in town and this city will do anything for them.

    And as for 500 mil being so outlandish, look and see how much the Mav's stadium cost them in 2000.

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    Neither is Key Arena. It just doesn't have the same # of luxury boxes as more modern facilities. It doesn't cost $500 million to rectify that situation, which is what Clay Bennett is asking.
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    NBA: KeyArena renovation not an option
    March 26, 2008: 11:58 AM EST


    Mar. 26, 2008 (Thomson Financial delivered by Newstex) --

    OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - NBA commissioner David Stern on Tuesday shot down a proposal by a group of Seattle businessmen seeking to renovate KeyArena in order to keep the SuperSonics in the city.

    Stern said the NBA does not view a renovation as a solution because the site could not undergo a proper expansion.

    'The reason that this journey began was because KeyArena was not an adequate arena going forward and there were a lot of recommendations made for another arena ... but the tax revenues and the various contributions weren't forthcoming,' Stern said while taking questions about an NBA relocation subcommittee's recommendation to move the SuperSonics to Oklahoma City.

    'I would say that as far as we know, the footprint of Key is at present time not viewed as adequate to support what's necessary going forward.'
    Stern said he believes the footprint of KeyArena is only between 300,000 and 400,000 square feet, as compared to the 580,000 square feet of Oklahoma City's Ford Center that will extend even farther during planned renovations.

    A group including Microsoft Corp. (NASDAQ:MSFT) Chief Executive Steve Ballmer has floated a proposal to buy the Sonics and pay half of a $300 million renovation plan, in the hope that the city of Seattle and state of Washington would split the remainder of the cost.

    SuperSonics owner Clay Bennett has repeatedly said his team is not for sale.

    'As far as I know, we have owners there that own the team and they have told us based on the present state of their record and their inability to get any assistance up to this point that the team is not for sale and the application to move has been made,' Stern said.

    Bennett has also said that KeyArena in any form won't work for the Sonics or the league.

    'KeyArena is not a viable NBA arena. A remodeled KeyArena is not a viable NBA arena,' Bennett said in October.

    The SuperSonics' lease requires them to play in Seattle through the end of the 2009-10, although Bennett is seeking to break the agreement in federal court. Bennett said his ownership group is 'prepared to engage in the trial' and abide by the judge's ruling.

    After failing to secure a new, $500 million arena he was seeking in Seattle, Bennett said the Sonics 'don't have a prayer of succeeding in KeyArena.'
    'I absolutely know a team can survive and be profitable in Oklahoma City. It needs to be understood that in this market that Oklahoma City is a viable, growing market,' Bennett said in Seattle in October. ' ... It will work and it will certainly work a lot better than it is here today.'
    New Jersey Nets owner Lewis Katz, Los Angeles Lakers vice president Jeanie Buss and Indiana Pacers owner Herb Simon said Tuesday that they would recommend that the NBA's relocation committee approve the SuperSonics' request to move to Oklahoma City. The NBA Board of Governors will vote April 18 on the proposal.

    'There's no question in my mind that they're coming. It's just a question of when,' Katz said. 'The hope is that somebody makes the appropriate approach from Seattle, people get together, they sit down, they make a deal and everybody walks away with something good for their community.

    'Hopefully, Seattle will then realize that the NBA is not walking away from it.'
    Stern said he would be available to help Bennett and the city of Seattle if they were to negotiate a settlement 'but there's a lease to be honored, there's a court deciding whether that lease can be honored by a payment or has to be honored by the team being physically there.'
    'I think there may or may not be discussion to have about a fair settlement for both sides, and I'm certainly in favor of helping them look for some fair resolution,' Stern said.

    If the federal judge rules that the Sonics cannot buy out of the lease, the team could be facing two lame duck seasons in the Pacific Northwest -- or, as some hope, it could provide extra time to find a new solution and keep the city's first major sports franchise.

    'It would be terrible. It doesn't help anybody to have a lame duck team. Nobody should be in that position,' Katz said. 'It doesn't help Seattle. It doesn't help the ownership group here in Oklahoma. It's not good for the league to have that just hang out.'

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    Seattle won't lose everything when Sonics split
    March 26, 2008
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    Clay Bennett, the bagger of carpets who is well into his spiriting of the Seattle SuperSonics to Oklahoma City, is apparently willing to leave the team names (both Seattle and SuperSonics, thoughtfully), the logos and the history behind with the defrocked city.


    Clay Bennett may be taking the team, but he will be leaving the 'SuperSonics' behind. (Getty Images)
    Apparently he has no use for any of them, which seems all well and good for you sentimentalists.

    But he is still taking the team, which leaves with one of those awkward Cleveland Browns moments, where an expansion team claims a history it actually doesn't own, because the team that made the history was taken to Baltimore.

    And the fact that he is willing to let Seattle keep the bric-a-brac while taking the furniture indicates that Seattle is going to get another team, probably as a side deal to the city letting the Sonics go without further to-do. Maybe they get New Orleans, which continues to fight the tough fight attendance-wise, or some other unfortunate team in some other unfortunate town.

    But somehow, Seattle will be made whole, likely after their sense of loss overcomes their sense of shame and they throw money into a major renovation of Key Arena, or worse, Key Arena 2.0. And then they'll try to graft the history the old Sonics left behind onto the new team, probably while the transplanted team leaves its old history behind when it leaves its town.

    Get it? Of course not. It's just another way of bending reality so as not to hurt people's sense of self-delusion.

    Look, the Sonics are going to Oklahoma City; the city didn't cave in to Bennett's extortion, but he had the deed and David Stern had his back. That's the game in the fast lane, kids, pure and simple.

    But leaving the history and the records behind as some sort of sop to people's memories is just dishonest. The memories can't be taken, so the records themselves aren't really relevant. It's a gift without meaning, an act of generosity without value. It's not quite a scam, but it comes close.

    Browns fans have the old team's records, too, but their pain and suffering through the expansion team's birth and early years were made no easier by having Otto Graham in their media guide rather than Baltimore's. It was symbolism, but the new Browns were making their own history, so their glories in 2007 were their own and couldn't be negotiated away because Randy Lerner got a wild hair some day.

    That is Seattle's burden now, and having Jack Sikma in the records section of a media guide that won't be published for years doesn't really help the town all that much.

    Thus, having the logo is fine, and the nickname, too. But the records? Bennett should keep those, because civic brigandry aside, it is one of the things he paid for when he bought the old team, and Seattle trying to pass off the next Sonics as the extension of the old Sonics is, well, just plain dishonest. It simply isn't so.

    These are the deals that fool people into thinking they got a pound of flesh out of someone who took the entire meat market. Seattle isn't getting anything of value out of this deal unless it really wants to own the name SuperSonics in perpetuity, and the truth is nobody else is going to want the name.

    The new teams want a ferocious animal as the nickname, or something that ends in "zz," and a logo that more than not is predicated on a triangle rather than a circle. The name "Sonics" is already Seattle's forever, and nobody uses the green-and-gold motif for a new team any more. It's all teals and coppers and silvers and dark grays.

    In short, if this deal goes through, Seattle gets the records of a team it won't have, which is worth nothing in the grander scheme. Clay Bennett got what he wanted, and what he's willing to leave behind is of no value -– if it was, he would have taken it with him.

    But hey, if an empty gesture now helps the city overpay for a new team later, and then overpay again with a new or tarted-up arena, and everyone thinks it's a bargain ... well, it worked in Cleveland, right?

    It just took about a decade, is all.

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    This 's so ing stupid. I have no problem with OKC getting a team, but for s sake, The Sonics? Take any of a number of teams like Memphis, Charlotte, NO, The Clippers, etc. This whole deal's shadier than a fat womans shadow. David Stern.

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    CaptMike needs to stop posting anywhere except the College Sports forum. Let's keep the stupidity locked in a single area.
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    Seattle with get a new Supersonics team in exchange for not putting up any more of a fight.

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    Does the NBA really want to expand to make it uneven?

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    IMO, the NBA needs to drop about 6-8 teams. Cut two playoff spots from each conference and shorten the season to about 70 games. This has been a great, great season, but only for the top 50% of the league. The rest of these teams ing suck... and thats a gotdamned shame for the people in those cities. Unfortunately, David Stern still making money off those teams; enough that wants to water the league down even more by expanding. I ing hate when the pursuit of $ compromises value and I ing hate David Stern.

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