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    Damn You Commies T Park's Avatar
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    just because it might make things more convenient doesn't make it legal.

    just say, "yeah, like a lot of other guys he cheated. but he plays for my team so i'm going to root for him anyways."

    justifying it is just silly.

    Was he in the mitc report?

    All I've seen was a report from the New York Times, and then him saying his doctor "prescribed" it.

    Hes done what hes done while the MLB is testing hardcore.

    Yeah what the , he sucks, its all the juice obviously.

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    doesn't matter if it was prescribed. he's not a dwarf. he doesn't have a pituitary problem. he (presumably) does not have AIDS. he can't lawfully use it.

    it's that simple. you can say anything else you want, spin anything else you want. but that's really the only point that matters and it is indisputable.

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    Maybe? Cus when you brought it up in the other thread, you didn't say *coughMAYBEsteroidscough*.

    The point I am trying to make is that you practically accuse Pedro, who has NEVER been shown to have ever used a banned substance (legally or not) then get mad when others point out Ankiel, who IS an admitted user (legally or not).

    Total hypocrisy.

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    Pedro don't play in St. Louis.

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    Sorry for having an opinion.

    I'll try not to do that again.

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    Sorry for having an opinion.

    I'll try not to do that again.
    It's okay to have an opinion. It makes you look bad, however, to defend one guy when so many others who are vilified did exactly what he did. Either the use of HGH to aid performance as a ballplayer (whether by helping to recover from injuries or something else) is okay across the board or it's not. Believing that Ankiel is somehow different from the rest of the HGH users strikes me as an opinion that is based solely on the fact that Ankiel plays for your favorite team.

    It's okay to have an opinion, but having one that's not very well defenisble opens you up to valid criticisms, I think.

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    Sorry for having an opinion.

    I'll try not to do that again.


    Just admit your a homer. Not a damn thing wrong with that. I still think the Reds have a chance to win the World Series in 2006. it that it's 2 years ago.

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    Exactly.

    I have never tried to justify the use of PEDs by Brian Roberts.

    But that doesn't mean that I want the O's to release him or that I'm not rooting for him to have a monster season (by a 5'9 second baseman's standards) just the same.

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    It's okay to have an opinion. It makes you look bad, however, to defend one guy when so many others who are vilified did exactly what he did. Either the use of HGH to aid performance as a ballplayer (whether by helping to recover from injuries or something else) is okay across the board or it's not. Believing that Ankiel is somehow different from the rest of the HGH users strikes me as an opinion that is based solely on the fact that Ankiel plays for your favorite team.

    It's okay to have an opinion, but having one that's not very well defenisble opens you up to valid criticisms, I think.

    HGH used as a rehabillitant to come back from injuries, wich is what some of the players used it for "allegedly" if true, is OK, IMO.

    If ONLY used, for cases like that.

    If its illegal federally to use it for that, then obviously you can't its not good.

    I did not know that it wasn't legal to use HGH outside of dwarfism and what not so I apologize on that.

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    Holy cow TP, if you haven't seen highlights from last night you need to go watch. Ankiel nailed 2 runners at 3rd last night. One was Taveras on a fly out to DEEP CF as he tagged at 2nd and the other was even more amazing when he chased the ball to the warning track, picked it up and threw a laser to get Quintanilla trying to stretch a 2B into 3B. Unreal.

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    Yeah that throw to get Taveras was just unreal.

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    Ankiel is an amazing player. A converted sp to a starting outfielder in this day just doesn't happen.

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