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A Navy Seal wouldn't be trying to punch.
Navy Seal
UFC Fighter
Theres dirty ways out of almost everything an mma fighter does that isn't allowed in compe ion, and chances are while the mma fighter is taught to avoid these kind of moves, the ns is taught to embrace them. A NS isn't going to be looking for an armbar, hes probably going to be looking to get ahold of your fingers and break them to cripple your capabilities. If you think an mma fighter is going to have a navy seal choked out or in bent into a pretzel that easily you're nuts Their whole system of restrictions makes it hard to predict what would really happen in an anything goes fight between two significantly trained combatants at the peak of their training.rules don't matter if there is no blood flowing to your brain or if you're being turned into a pretzel...
A Navy Seal wouldn't be trying to punch.
It's like Dallas talk radio mixed with a little bit of Pussyface. Mixing it up mono?
We're assuming the mma fighter knows ahead of time that anything goes right? He's not going to go into thinking it's sanctioned by the NSAC?
An armbar is pretty effective in a real fight...instead of stopping where a guy would normally tap you just break it. That'll have an impact on a SEAL I'd think.
Are SEALS trained to defend legkicks? They're no laughing matter...one good one can end a fight if you don't know how to defend it, or take it properly.
and dirty tactics won't get you out of a RNC. Takes about 3 seconds to put you to sleep, then it's just a matter of what the other guy wants to do with your limp body...
In summary, the SEAL would barely be able to get his hand on the real fighter...
Makes perfect sense...
There must be some top secret military training that allows a SEAL to knock somebody out in less than 10 seconds without punching? How about knocking somebody out that's trained in the art of not getting hit when sloppy punches are thrown at them? It works for that too I guess?
This is a dumb argument because MOST don't understand the level, or types, of training that goes into being a fighter at the level of the UFC. MOST think that SEAL's are the baddest guys around. I'm not saying that SEALS aren't bad dudes...they are without question. But the reality is that the SEAL is going to get his ass worked over in a no rules fight with a "UFC fighter"...
A Navy Seal has no rules. There really is no right or wrong answer because the outcome would probably never always be the same. That said, I'd put my money on the Navy Seal every time.Makes perfect sense...
There must be some top secret military training that allows a SEAL to knock somebody out in less than 10 seconds without punching? How about knocking somebody out that's trained in the art of not getting hit when sloppy punches are thrown at them? It works for that too I guess?
This is a dumb argument because MOST don't understand the level, or types, of training that goes into being a fighter at the level of the UFC. MOST think that SEAL's are the baddest guys around. I'm not saying that SEALS aren't bad dudes...they are without question. But the reality is that the SEAL is going to get his ass worked over in a no rules fight with a "UFC fighter"...
It's your money...
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I'm pretty sure a UFC fighter trains for hand to hand combat more in 2 day's than a SEAL does in a month.
I really think people are losing sight of that aspect.
They train a lot of grappling and Judo throws if I am not mistaken.
You guys want to talk about shooting, tracking, gathering intel and everything else that goes along with being a SEAL, a SEAL wins. But hand to hand combat, no.
Again…a mma fighter does nothing and I mean nothing but train their body for fighting…eating…running…and cross training martial arts disciplines.
Again, in a fight to the DEATH, I'll put my money on the guy trained to KILL, not the guy trained to fight in a ring with a referee.
I concur.
Point taken. But believe me, Navy Seals train their body to the extreme as well.
It's MMA (Mixed Martial Arts/Artist) not "UFC fighter". UFC is a brand and the name of a company. The well trained mixed martial artist would destroy a Navy Seal. They train in multiple disciplines (wrestling, grappling, boxing, kick boxing, jujitsu, cardio, strength and conditioning, weight training) all of which have evolved to new heights. A Navy Seal is trained to do different tasks. In a one on one fight a Navy Seal has no chance really.
Navy SEAL hands down. I use to be stationed at the base they train at and the training those guys go through is nuts.
A Navy Seal is trained to kill by any means necessary and if you don't think he'd have a chance you are fooling yourself.
What don't you understand about a choke? If we're truly talking about "to the death" then the mma fighter can just hold a choke for 5 min's instead of 5 seconds and then head to the house...
Of course they do...but that doesn't mean they'll win a fight with somebody that trains just to fight...
"hands down"
It's hard to kill somebody if you can't get your hands on them...he's either getting KO'd, taken down and mounted/pounded into the ground, or taken down and having limbs broken and/or getting choked out. When the choke is sunk in, no training that Seals do will help...maybe he could try to break a finger or something, but he better do it within about 3 seconds AND hope that causes the choke to be released
OK, maybe some chance but an MMA fighter is also as well trained to "kill" if he wanted to. The only way a Seal kills someone is to break their neck or punch/kick out their larynx. An MMA fighter is well trained to defend these things. The rest of the stuff is punching balls, biting, clawing, manipulating small joints, whatever. An MMA fighter can knock out, choke out, break limbs, control, ,and even kill a Seal if that was the agenda.
Subs ute your Seal for Joe Stevenson...
Doesn't matter if a SEAL cannot get close enough to execute his "killing moves"
Any basic MMA fighter is trained ad nauseum to protect his back.
And the Navy Seal is trained to knock out, choke out, break limbs, dominate and adapt and ignore pain and kill an MMA fighter if necessary. A Navy Seal is also well trained. My point is that this is a matter of opinion and not fact because different cir stances or a critical strike by either opponent could turn the tide very easily. All it take is one well placed strike to take down an opponent no matter who they are. I've seen smaller guys whoop ass on guys much bigger than them.
As I said, for me, I'll take the Navy Seal. Their history and reputation is second to none.
As are Navy Seals. See my point?
Subs ute any MMA fighter for a Navy Seal and we're all screwed.Subs ute your Seal for Joe Stevenson...
And what makes you so certain a MMA fighter could get a Navy SEAL into a choke hold? And keep him there?
Again, MMA fighters and their fanboys live in a world of cages and rules.
Navy SEALs live in the real world and a true "kill or be killed" mentality.
You can hypothesize how a MMA fighter MIGHT react in a true life or death fight, but you can't know for sure. Could a MMA fighter truly fight someone to the death with no rules whatsoever? Maybe, maybe not. But a Navy SEAL has already LIVED that.
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