Watching Detroit's bench today- of young, athletic guys- was impressive.
If you want some alternatives- how about better use of the pick in the last draft and not giving up the first round pick in the upcoming draft.
No, I hate when they lose in the post-season, but I'm fair from unhappy as long as the give maximum effort. And, I'm afraid this season could end as badly as 2001 and 2002 with how this team has performed most of this season.
I'm really hopeful that I'm wrong and that they somehow turn things around before it's too late.
That's an excellent point you made. Detroit is a prime example of a team able to get young, athletic guys around their core players.
The 2nd half collapses from this team have been a hallmark throughout this season. Yet people keep saying "we're fine and we'll be OK once the playoffs start". Bull ! Frankly, I'm tired of seeing this team getting continously overwhelmed by the sheer talent and athleticism of the opposition. This team is not just losing games to the top compe ion in the West, they are getting their "doors blown completely off". It's a very disturbing thing to watch.
I couldn't care less if they had won or lost to the Fakers, I just wanted to see them play well, play smart and be compe ive for the entire 48 minutes. This win over the Sonics notwithstanding, this team looks tired, old, and confused. With each blowout loss, it's more and more obvious that the complement of players surrounding the big three isn't good enough or consistent enough to withstand the talent overload in this newly compe ive Western Conference.
As sweet as it is in winning an NBA championship, the accomplishment will often cause a "dulling of the senses" and a "sense of denial" in how management evaluates their team in the offseason (see Pat Riley's offseason moves following the Miami Heat's 2006 Championship). The FO is totally culpable for not recognizing and addressing the deficiencies on this team over this past offseason. They played the "old guy card" one year too many. Now they will have no choice but to address it this summer.
Agreed and I've stated this before. Joe Dumars' Pistons looked about as awful against the Cleveland Cavaliers in last season's EC Finals. He realized he had a depleted bench of non-contributors or guys that were past their prime. He addressed it via the draft and free agency. Now he's got a young, developing, energetic second team of players that give their starters both the rest and energy boost needed.
Yeah, but that was after two successive playoff failures. This team hasn't gone through that since 2000-2002, and when they did, they responded by bringing in young, more athletic talent (S. Jackson, Ginobili and Claxton). Hopefully, they'll bring in both Ian and Tiego, while also using their draft picks (they traded next years 1st) and free-agency to get younger back-court help.
Good point. I'm excited about the propsect of two new, younger post players coming next year (Ian & Tiago). However, it's that wing position (a position where many of the league's better athlete's reside) where the Spurs need to address.
There are a couple of solid guys that'll be available including Pietrus, Barnes, James Jones, Ron Artest and I believe Josh Childress. Getting one of those guys or someone of comparable talent, drafting a comptent back-up point guard (can shot the 3 & defend) and a swing-man to develop through the D-League should be the team's goals no matter what.
I don't think the "old" factor will play any role this year in the PO. Well, I HOPE it doesn't.
They have 3-4 months that will DEFINE THEIR LEGACY. That's all. Out of the rest of their lives. That's nothing.
No one is even mentioning the 51-36 edge in rebounding the Lakers had?
Oberto and Thomas not playing with Duncan ALOT, and no Horry had something to do with that.No one is even mentioning the 51-36 edge in rebounding the Lakers had?
Just throwing that out there.
Scola would have had 20 rebounds and if we had a better coach and power forward that would count for 10 more. We should have had 97 rebounds.No one is even mentioning the 51-36 edge in rebounding the Lakers had?
Hmm, maybe if either of them could manage to stay out of foul trouble.
Oh and Thomas played 20 minutes and grabbed 2 rebounds. Just throwing that out there...
Great, another armchair GM ing thread.
I don't see how you believe people are ing. The front-office didn't do enough to help out Timmy, Tony, Manu and Bruce this off-season. Hopefully, they'll make up for that error this off-season and the team can somehow figure out a why to win it all this season.Great, another armchair GM ing thread.
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So you think all our ancient role players are doing a good job and clearly what we need to repeat this year?
I just want to be clear on where you stand.
Hmm, maybe if either of them could manage to stay out of foul trouble.
Oh and Thomas played 20 minutes and grabbed 2 rebounds. Just throwing that out there...
That could've helped.
Don't get the rolling of the eyes though.
Spurs did not try to tank this game
that's the scary part
Damn, if only 104 year old Robert Horry could have played 40 minutes today, maybe we could have kept it under 20.
I like Udoka, I like Oberto, i like Finley.
I didn't see anyone this summer available, FA, draft, whatever, that was better than what we had.
Should we have brought in Scola? Looking back on it, sure, but they didn't.
Scola, Mahinmi, and a first rounder are coming in this summer and thats how I look at it.
Do they have enough to win this year? Yes.
It all depends on how hard they want it.
I always though Horry coming back for another season was a bad thing. I wanted him to retire. Other than that, its not like they had a lot of avenues to get younger in a hurry. They have Splitter and Mahimi which I believe are good starts, but its not easy to pull out youth in favor of guys who have proven themselves.
While they didn't get younger they did make a good move to pickup Udoka. The thing is, that if your main MVP player lays an egg like Duncan did today then you can kiss rings goodbye whether you get younger or not. There are a lot of issues with this team and its honestly not nearly as strong as it has been in years past, but there is only so much to be done. You must have some sort of off years in order to start the rebuilding process because after a championship year its very difficult to blow things up and start a brand new squad.
Obviously, there are a lot of players on this team on their last legs, but I do think things would be different with a healthy team as well. Not so much with Horry, but definitely with Barry.
They don't look good right now and they definitely don't look like a top team in the West as of late. Hope that they get on a roll in the first round. The good news is that it won't take much to get this team on a roll and they definitely have the ability to beat anyone in the league in a 7 game series should they put it all together.
Just hope for the best in the first round right now because thats all you can do.
Horry would've helped at times.
Best post I've seen all day and pretty much sums up how I feel.
Great post Manny
Now you guys get to see how it feels to be a Baltimore Ravens fan year in and year out. Awesome defense, but a suck ass offense...
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