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    Silence surpasses speech. duncan228's Avatar
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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Anyone know if Carlisle is a high IQ coach? Allows young players to make mistakes (not favoring vets), lets the team run, and etc.
    This if from a Pistons fan perspective based on stuff I've read and heard. Obviously, I don't have inside information so it's based on Pistons beat writers and other hear-say sources.

    Anyway, Rick Carlisle supposedly has a very good basketball mind. I believe he was the offensive coach under Larry Bird for the Reggie-Rik Smits Pacers, but when he was hired by the Pistons, he became more noted as a defensive minded coach. Either way, he supposedly is extremely well prepared and is meticulous in all aspects, right down to using mathematical percentages in his decision making.

    Now, that meticulous preparation also bled into his coaching style, as with the Pistons, he would often script the first 10 or so plays of a game for the offense. It wasn't take what the defense gives you. He had set plays for about the first 10 plays, maybe more. Run the scripted plays no matter what.

    As far as his failures with the Pistons organization, there are several stories. First and foremost, he pissed off the owner, Bill Davidson. Basically, reports from people who worked with the Pistons and at the Palace said he was pretty much a to everyone. And, Bill Davidson just didn't like the guy. That also transferred to his relationships with his players. He lost players because he was an unrelenting and stubborn task master. He grated on players because there was generally no leniency in his ways. And, that led to many of his players tuning him out.

    He did prefer veterans, and his stubbornness was most clearly demonstrated when he started and played Michael Curry heavy minutes throughout the 2002-03 season and rarely gave Tayshaun Prince any minutes even though reports were that Prince would kill Curry in practice. It took a firm push by Joe Dumars in the first round of the 2003 playoffs against the Orlando Magic to get Carlisle to play Prince. Prince performed extremely well in that series and the next series against the Sixers, and I believe he's started every game both regular season and playoffs for the Pistons since. Carlisle did favor veterans. And, he favored guys that did everything his way.

    Now, I can't speak for his time with the Pacers, but I actually believe he has had to improve on his people skills and his approach to coaching. His experiences with Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson, and Jamaal Tinsley has had to give him better perspective on coaching. He has had very good success with his teams in both Detroit and Indiana. His micro-managing helped make them high playoff seed teams. So, you know he's got to be doing something right, at least with the X's and O's and in game coaching.

    I would guess that he's probably a little more mellow, will probably micro manage a little less, and will approach coaching a little differently, especially with an owner like Mark Cuban. I always found Rick a pretty witty and funny guy with that dry type of humor. He was good in interviews with the media. And, he always presented himself well. So, in many ways, I was surprised to hear the things about him when he was fired. It will be interesting to see how his relationships with his players and Cuban develop.

    And, then there's always the fact that he looks exactly like Jim Carey.

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    I think it's a good hire, the best of what was available. Jackzen, Pop and Jerry Sloan are not available.

    Besides, Pop and Sloan are not exactly the cuddly types, so what's the problem?

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    if rick has set plays that can not bold well with jason kidd

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    if rick has set plays that can not bold well with jason kidd
    Okay, then.

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    from jamstone post rick seems more controlling then aj and more of a guy that does not get along with people

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    from jamstone post rick seems more controlling then aj and more of a guy that does not get along with people
    Thanks, Emmitt.

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    you are welcome

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    JVG the Second. Welcome to grind it out defensive basketball.

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    Here's betting that Carlisle will try to turn Dirk into a back to the basket post up center.

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    be instersting to see if dirk is back shooting those 3 pointers now aj is gone

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    How the do you hire someone without even interviewing them first?
    What makes you think Cuban hasn't been planning this all along?

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    Carlisle is already generating stats to show that Erick Dampier is Defensive Player of the Year.

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    Del Harris > Rick Carlisle as far as player management.

    It won't be long before the players tune Rick out too.

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    With all this talk about Dallas hiring an AJ clone and how much it's such a bad higher, who should Dallas have hired? All the top coaches out there either are already employed, not interested, or had problems at their other jobs. So who out there was better?

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    Forgive most of us that aren't up at 7:00 in the in morning on Saturday.

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    from jamstone post rick seems more controlling then aj and more of a guy that does not get along with people
    He was with the Pistons. Doesn't mean he can adapt and adjust, especially since his style has proven to grate on players. I think he'll also be willing to relent a little considering Jason Kidd's skill set. Everything I wrote was based on his two seasons with the Pistons 5-6 years ago.

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    Sounds like Rick Carlisle is a better version of AJ. The stubborness might hurt us if Antoine Wright isn't given his opportunities. Overall I like it though he is not the perfect coach. Playing a traditional center should help.

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    I would have preferred if the Mavs signed Hubie Brown isn't he like 92?

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    This is great they go from the Spurs kryptonite to back to the Spurs red headed stepchild in 4 months.... I used to hate Cuban and now I am starting to like him.

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    I don't understand why teams feel it neccesary to fill the coaching vacancy so fast.

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    Carlisle has a chance if he can fire Cuban.

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    Carlise will just be the next coach that Kidd gets fired.

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    You're a dumbass Mariotti. Rick will lead the Mavericks back to the NBA Finals. And lose.
    Woody Paige.....

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    What makes you think Cuban hasn't been planning this all along?
    Good point. He probably knew he had it in the bag. That's why he fired Avery over the phone and went to hang out at a Cubs game.

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