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I can see your logic, but i don't think Yao deserves to be a starter for the all-star game.
After looking at it some more...
Since the coahces will select the back up slots...you know, Miller really isn't doing anything special...
Ditch him...let Duncan or Amare play some C...and take Marion.
That gives you guys the 3 Suns that you want...IMO if the Suns deserve to have 3 players, the Spurs damn sure do as well.
That gives you:
G:
Kobe
TMac
Nash
Allen
Manu
Parker
F
Duncan
Garnett
Marion
_irk
Amare
C
Yao
(backed up by Duncan Amare KG etc)...
It would work. And I think it makes sense.
This team has a lot of tweeners...
TMac, Kobe and Manu are all G/F's...
Duncan, Dirk, Garnett and even Amare are all F/C's...
I think my roster would work and I think it would be fair.
I can see your logic, but i don't think Yao deserves to be a starter for the all-star game.
I don't either...
But he is having a better season than Miller and he did get voted in by the fans.
Amare should be the starting C for the West...it's ed up that he isn't even on the ballot at that position.
I don't really think Tmac is having that great of a season either...
Manu is 3rd in the NBA in Shots made/Shots attemped ratio.Only behind Amare and Shaq.
Just imagine if they let him do his thing more, if you give him more freedom.
His efficiency is what makes him an all star.Plus, he does it all on the court.No way Parker can steal, block and assist as Manu does night in and night out.
Its probably as close as Sequ will get to admitting something.
One great game, on national TV, set as the battle of the West elite, might just do it.And one great game does NOT an All Star make. If that were the case, then Damon Stoudamire would be a lock for the All Star team as well...
One game don't get you into the All Star Game....
Honestly I'd rather he not be. He's banged up and he didn't exactly get much of a rest this past summer. The less Spur involvement on All-Star Weekend, the better. Ditto for Pop. He likes to use that time to prep for the remainder of the season and perhaps relax a little himself, if that is possible.
Well, the reason I thought Manu wasn't going to make it into the All Star game was because so much of his game comes outside of scoring. Yes, he's a great scorer, but he simply changes the game.
I think there's a chance he makes it. But don't expect Pop to campaign for any of his guys to be in it. You know he'd much rather have everyone off for a few days, and I honestlydon't think many of the spurs would mind that.
I think Parker and Manu both want to make the All Star Team. I know for fact Parker wants to be on the AS team, he has come right out and admitted it.
Gotta realize, Parker and Manu would be the first players ever from their respective countries to make the AS team, Bob Cousy excepted.
That kind of thing matters to both Manu and Parker IMO. They are very aware of the fact that they are NBA pioneers for their countries, and I think they both want to give their countrymen something to be proud about. I think it's very important to them, and to their countrymen.
I also think it would be good for the All Star Game, it would generate a lot more interest than usual in this game, a game that has been declining in ratings and interest for a number of years.....
Manu, in particular, is a world wide star. Manu is probably the most recognizable international player in the World.
Anyone that has watched an NBA chamionship run, an Olympic Gold Medal Game, or a Euroleague championship game, has seen Manu doing his thing.
Everyone saw what he did last night, Euro hoop fans know his game well, everyone was entertained by what he did in the Olympics. And I think a lot of people around the world want to see him in a game where he can just cut loose and showboat to his hearts content. I know I want to see Manu unleashed...Forget stats, Manu is a fun mofo to watch.
And I think Pop also knows that they want to make the AS game, out of National pride if nothing else. Pop was campaigning for Manu to make the AS game earlier in the season.
Manu and Parker in the AS game = Good for the game, good for generating international interest in the game, and good for the Spurs.
And they both legitimately deserve to be on the team IMO.
Last edited by whottt; 01-22-2005 at 02:59 PM.
^I agree whott. Manu also said on his site that he'd love to be in it. I don't know if he can make it in but after that dunk he did last night it would be awesome to see him in the game be let loose and be allowed to do some of his amazing plays.
Damn, Adidas broke it down. With names and the like.
Crap, it doesn't look good for Parker or Manu.
Simma Down Smeagol.
Do you watch games? There is no way that Manu is far superior to Parker. They are both pretty similar, but if you've watched the Spurs for the past few weeks, you would have to conclude that Parker has been more of an asset than Manu.
Name three point guards in the western conference you would rather have than Parker. It's arguable that he's become the second best at his position in his conference. You could argue otherwise too, but he's put up pretty good numbers and has clearly been the leader of the team over the past few weeks.
Manu had a special performance last night and can certainly do some great things, but I could think of three swing players alone I would trade for him. If the deal is right, you take it.
And as far as inconsistency goes, Parker has been much more consistent lately. If anything, Manu is the up and down player.
I'm glad that the Spurs have both of them, but if I was forced to identify the better player, I think it would be hard to not go with Parker. He's second on the team in points, leads the team in assists, and he's been scoring more consistently than Manu.
Watch some games.
Parker has been better as of late, but I wouldn't say over the course of the entire season he has been more consistent. He was flat out bad the first few weeks of the season, not mediocre, but bad.
Manu has not really had a horrible stretch yet, not a stretch like Parkers. And Manu's start to this season was comparable to Parkers hot stretch (just over a span of a few less games).
All in all I say they have equal value to the team, and if there is anyone who needs keep it up its Parker. Parker is SUPPOSED to be the second option, but he is no more efficient than Manu at scoring. In fact Manu has been more efficient with his scoring, whereas Parker has taken better care of the ball and has found a solid balance of scoring and passing as of late.
However, TP still needs to address the FT shooting. If he continues to miss three pointers, not get to the line, and shoot poor from the line, then you may see inconsistency in his scoring somewhere down the line.
I hope I am wrong. If Parker can maintain his hot play, then that would be great. But I would say they both are equal in terms of value to the team right now. I don't think either has been specifically inconsistent, both are actually doing better than last season.
I still think Parker needs to keep this up for the entire season to be the clear cut second best player on the team. I think he is supposed to be, but unless he keeps this up I think the backcourt is even in terms of importance to this team.
I don't really see how either has been inconsistent this season. If you want to say your not pleased with their games, then its one thing. But inconsistent is not really all that much of a problem so far this season. Unless of course you have much higher expectations?
Last edited by Nikos; 01-22-2005 at 09:58 PM.
Who cares?
WE HAVE THE BEST RECORD IN THE NBA!!!
GO SPURS!
Not anymore.He's second on the team in points
Ginobili 15.7
Parker 15.5
I think manu should go over tp, just because he was a gold medal winner, and he seems like the most consistent player. I also think Marion should go over Amare, as you can tell by my handle, I think the Matrix always goes under the radar due to Amare being the future...But i would definately take Manu you can't pass up the gold medal winner player to play in the all star...
Isn't Marion a better rebounder than Amare? Witht hat being said i too feel that TP is at his best when he is snubbed so i think not making the all-star team would be very benefical to us as he would be motivated to play at a much higher level of play then if he went to the all-star game. Basically TP with a chip on his shoulder is better than TP without one.
Sequ: The good thing is that it takes a big man to admit his mistakes. You've admited one of your huge mistakes, the question is are you a big man?
Agreed.Who cares?
WE HAVE THE BEST RECORD IN THE NBA!!!
GO SPURS!
Even if Manu doesn't go to the All-Star game as a player,
Spurs are going to win another NBA le.
Manu Finals MVP this season.
Either Manu or Tony is going to make it. Now that's a lock. 3 reasons:
Spurs are getting way too much respect around the league.
Manu has show cased his talents in the biggest settings including Athens.
Tony is going to kick the out of Bibby tonight.
BTW, if Manu was allowed to take 27 shots a game like Kobe don't you think Manu would average a measely 27pts and shoot 40%.
Manu takes 14 shots/game, but shoots 48%.
Manu takes 10 shots/game. Now, that's amazing efficiency!
I would be happy if he would take 12-13 shots/game. At 14 shots/game he would be a 20 pts scorer.
Or 20 shots, 30 points per game.
Is it true that the team with the best record has coach in ASG?
If so why not Gino or parker.
I think both have proven themselves in different situations.
What about Gino and Parker?
They HAVE proven themselves, but it all comes down to who the rest of America votes for.
Parker and Gino aren't as popular as other players in the NBA mainly because they don't have bandwagon fans.
A good % of the people voting are people who don't know very much about the NBA, and they just vote for what they see on highlight films, or their local team.
San Antonio isn't a very big city population-wise compared to New York, Chicago, LA, Philly, Phoenix, other big cities, etc.
People vote for the jerseys they see in stores, not many Gino or Parker jerseys unless you go to a very good jersey store where I got my Gino jersey.
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