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    Bottom line: Shaq didn't get called for any in the last series, so Chandler should NEVER be called for one in this series.
    Well, you mean other than the three-point goaltend . . .

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    Example of why that's not the case: If the pass is right over the cylinder when caught and was thrown like a bullet and still on the ascent. Plus, as I just posted, when a possible goal tend occurs, the ball had to have a chance to score. When the ball is not on its descent and doesn't have a chance to score, it's not a goal tend even if Chandler catches the ball over the cylinder.
    Damn, that'd take some hardcore geometry. I guess if someone was sitting on the ground and threw the ball up at a 45 degree angle and someone jumped up to about 12 feet and dunked it, that'd be legit.

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    Damn, that'd take some hardcore geometry. I guess if someone was sitting on the ground and threw the ball up at a 45 degree angle and someone jumped up to about 12 feet and dunked it, that'd be legit.

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    There are two points in that post. Don't forget the ball has to have a "chance to score" for it to be a goal tend.

    c. For goaltending to occur, the ball, in the judgment of the official, must have a chance to score.
    http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_11...av=ArticleList

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    I've never seen "chance to score" applied to anything except shots that haven't reached the cylinder. Once it's in the cylinder, how is anyone going to say it doesn't have a chance?

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    The ball traveling over the rim on a pass would generally not have a chance to score.

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    My understanding is that if a ball is in the imaginary cylinder generated by the hoop itself, it can not be touched, whether it be a pass, tip in, alley oop, tip dunk or rebound, without it being offensive interference / offensive goaltending.

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    This rule has nothing to do with the question. This rule allows a player who's dunking the ball to make contact with the rim as part of the dunking action. The question is, does Chandler commit offensive goaltending on the alley-oop play?

    The answer is, if the ball is inside or partially inside the imaginary cylinder created by extending the rim upwards, no player can touch it. If the alley-oop pass is actually within the cylinder to the basket, the catch and dunk should be waved off.

    I've seen it called, but it's pretty rare. Normally the alley-oop pass is to the side of the rim, and the player goes up and gets it while moving and slams it. It's pretty obvious if the ball is above the basket because the player catches it and throws it straight down.

    I think the refs give the players the benefit of the doubt on this one, as they do on offensive rebound/putbacks.

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