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    The whole of the East Coast and West Coast and most of the area off
    the Florida coast are off limits to drilling, period. None, zip, zilch.

    Let me ask you a question. What is the toll for the high price of gasoline
    for the average working man or woman who makes 10 bucks an hour. Do
    they count for anything? I don't want to hear about mass transit, because
    mass transit is not a complete answer. When Europeans had the chance to
    move to private (their own cars) they did so in droves. And they had a
    mass transit system in place that is far way beyond what we have or will
    have for years. You cant do a weeks shopping going by bus or light rail.
    So be realistic in any answer you may offer.
    I am all for realism, and cars of some sort MUST be part of the mix.

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    By the same token that you can't do a weeks worth of shopping by bus or light rail, you don't need a vehicle capable of holding a weeks worth of shopping by bus or light rail to transport a person to and from work everyday, do you?

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    I don't want to hear about mass transit, because mass transit is not a complete answer.
    No, it isn't. But then neither are cars a "complete answer".

    But don't say "I don't want to hear about mass transit".

    That rejects part of the answer for ideological reasons at the expense of practical solutions.

    Better:

    "Don't say mass transit is the whole answer"

    You will have to include mass transit in the mix, because gas at $10 a gallon in the sooner-than-you-might-think future, people earning $10 an hour won't be able to afford it.

    Mass transit is simply THE most energy efficient way of moving people from point A to point B. Energy costs WILL go up, and this WILL make energy concerns climb higher and higher on lists of priorities and considerations when cities plan their transportation mixes.

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    WP will grow if the finance class, aka the sub-prime criminals, want it to grow.

    It looks to me like advances in solar-electric cell efficiency and cost reductions will be more useful and wind.

    But solar-thermal looks like the leader.

    All 3 will make a contribution, but somebody has to pay for the massive construction investments. Finance people seem to have no trouble financing dirty coal plants.

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