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Kareem can't take it. Sorry Kareem.
Not at all...
I just feel the post season is a better method of judging role players and the regular season is a better method of judging superstars.
Role players make the difference in the number of championships Superstars win...
Kareem can't take it. Sorry Kareem.
False...he takes a big crap on Horry's clutchness...in fact he takes a big crap on what is arguably the greatest clutch shot in Laker history...he also takes a crap on Horry's career.
In case you weren't a fan back in 02...
When Horry hit that shot Vlade called it luck, and Horry definitely had a problem with that comment...if you can read, you will see that Kareem does the exact same thing...
I assure you, no one in the Lakers was calling it luck at the time he made it.
Kareem fails to realize that whether or not Horry was in the right place...he still hit the ing shot, that's the point.
See...I disagree with Kareem here...I don't think have a dozen or so memorable and clutch shots is a product of luck...
I think getting drafted by or traded to, teams that then were able to aquire Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson is...
w/o an arguement the greatest clutch shot in Laker history is West's 60 ft heave or Kareem's 20 ft sky hook. Doesn't matter which you can take your pick.
Kareem is a legend, but is also known to be a bit self-serving. I'll give him a pass; he's earned it many times over.
How many times do you have to defile the name of your maker just to get your point across?
Kareem's famous skyhook game-winner was when he was on Milwaukee, dumbass.
Well...that little point is about to get premanently flushed...in this very post.
Because here is your argument...
the greatest clutch shot in Laker history is West's 60 ft heave or Kareem's 20 ft sky hook. Doesn't matter which you can take your pick.
Without a doubt, fewer people remember and watched those shots, who they were against, and the details behind them...then Horry's.
In fact...I'm 100% certain you didn't watch either of those shots at the time....whereas I feel pretty confident you probably did see Horry's shot...
I imagine on this very forum there might be at the most 10-15 people who saw the shots you mentioned...while possibly thousands saw Horry's.
Additionally...the bringing up of Jerry West in any sort of clutch discussion only proves to me that the LA media has the power to induce mass stupidity...
Calling a guy who lost like 30 ing NBA finals, "Mr. Clutch" is like calling Yasser Arafat "Mr. Israel".
silly homer Spur fans. Kareem is right, back in his days you played a lot less playoff games even if you went all the way.
Or because they happened 30 years ago.
kareems just mad cause hes muslim
Man how good would Tiago get after learning from this guy huh?
I thought Kareem was Josh Howard's coach?
Silly hater...Robert Horry has more championships than Kareem...so Kareem, like yourself, has kicked own ass.
Going all the way is not the domain of Kareem in this argument...it's the domain of Robert Horry in this argument.
Kareem also neglects to mention that he played 21 seasons whereas Horry now on his 15th or 16th...give Horry 21 seasons and he'll shatter Kareem's mark worse than his argument(and yours) have been shatterred in this thread...
For you see....Kareem, and your, argument woulde make sense if Kareem had more les than Horry...however since he doesn't..........the point is moot.
Oh I suppose you could bring up the fact that Kareem lost several finals appearances while Horry really hasn't...but I really don't think your argument would be the stronger for it.
Conclusion...I suggest you stick to hating and stop attempting logic....it's too much for you.
Well played sir, well played.
I see...and would you care to define greatness for me?
Thanks, in advance.
I'd be more impressed if Horry was going to break Wilt's record tonight... And i'm not talking about 100 points either
Those comments by Kareem are lame. Horry just doesn't get lucky.
I'd be willing to bet that Horry's teams:
A. Made the playoffs more than Kareem's.
B. Made it out of the first round more than Kareem's.
C. Won more les than Kareem's.
Conclusion:
Kareem's argument is ...since he's doing it in 5 fewer seasons than Kareem did.
Honestly...I always considered Kareem to be one of the most intelligent players to ever step foot on the court...this argument has me completely reconsidering that opinion.
I agree. His comment was pathetic.
From Kareems blog "He seems to thrive on rare opportunities. Every time he gets it he does something great with it." That's not taking a big crap on Horry's clutchness or the shot, no where does he say Horry was lucky to make the shot if anything he only says that if Vlade does his job Horry never gets that opportunity.
So you crap on Kareem for having good teamates when Horry has probably never been better than the 4th option on every team he's been a part of? You bring up Oscar Robertson and Magic but Horry's had the benefit of playing with some of the best big men in NBA history Hakeem, Shaq and Duncan. Has he hit some big shots? yea. But has he ever carried his team to an NBA championship? Robert Horry belongs in the same corner as the John Paxson and Steve Kerr's of the world.
what you say makes Kareem look like a partial choker since winning it all would require less games and series... as whottt said... Horry is yet to lose a first round series and a finals appareance
From your lips to God's ears...
Nope, didn't forget about him at all.
I met him too and me too think he's a nice guy, but he didn't get HIV infected because he was filling all those hotelrooms with his class.
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