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...blaming the refs is lame......missed free throws are momentum changers and letting the Hornets rebound a free throw is inexcusable...the Hornets just wanted game 5 more than the Spurs.
Other than the BS with Oberto getting thrown down (double technical + double personal), and Tony getting wacked a few times, I didn't have too many issues with the calls.
Chandler did get called for a foul when he tried to stick his knee up Tony's ass (you know that felt good).
No offense to the OP, but this sounds like what you'd read on a Suns forum (if such a thing still exists).
...blaming the refs is lame......missed free throws are momentum changers and letting the Hornets rebound a free throw is inexcusable...the Hornets just wanted game 5 more than the Spurs.
Damn, how many times does it have to be said....He's not blaming the refs for the loss, he's just saying they were horrible (in a nuts ).
I agree that the officiating was sucky, yeah we should have made our shots and overcome the challenges that were put before us but we didn't. We sucked, but the very questionable calls Joey made aren't acceptable.
I did read your post. Your post pretty much stated that you are calling out the Spurs for not using their magical superpowers when faced with biased referees, as though if the Spurs were being discriminated against by the refs they could use magical superpowers to still win the game.
Well, we all know that as great as the Spurs are, they, like all basketball players, are mortal. They don't have magical superpowers. So really, you're just whining more about the refs than anything, but just using the Spurs apparent lack of superpowers as an excuse to whine about the officiating.
You're kidding right?I don't have to waste time with you, your fellow fans seem to agree with you.
I wanted to say that Arkansas had a lot of calls go there way last year, but you don't hear about it because we went on to win it all, only loser complain about the refs costing them the game.
thats it......re .
The famous LSU Tigers accusing someone of getting the benefit of a call from a ref?
[b[The LSU Tigers fan complains?[/b]
oh god what has this world come to
I agree for the most part. Both games the away team came in soft and relaxed like it was just going to automatically 'happen' for them. We got home court calls, but NO got to murder last night on the back of Crawfish.
Exactly.
How many times are you going to say the same thing in different words? Nobody is whining about how ty the Spurs played. I made the point of calling them out for failing to step up, and the officiating in the game not series.
You go on though, keep on talking about super powers and wild .
I've talked about the backstory between Joey Crawford and the Spurs with a few people, some really knowledgable about the game and some that are just casual fans...
To a person, none of them can understand why Joey Crawford was given the assignment of reffing such an important game given his past with the Spurs.
I don't care if Crawford just reffed the best game in history last night, he shouldn't have been reffing that game.
He has shown a personal bias against Tim Duncan that borders on mentally defective, and if he didn't have a personal bias before, he has every reason in the world to have one after his career was nearly ended over a conflict with Duncan...
And this is the guy that is chosen to ref a pivotal playoff swing game?
That's incompetence on the part of the NBA...complete and total incompetence and irresponsibility...unless of course, the NBA knew exactly what it was doing in giving that game to Crawford.
How many games do we start out in NO missing easy shots? Duncan just starts on a bad path missing signature stuff he has made for 11 years.
I said in an older topic in this series the Spurs are not getting beat because they are old or anything, they are seriously killing themselves not taking advantage of that, and rebounding, and 7389473 other things they usually do. They are in self destruct mode in NO as if on vacation.
Aren't these dudes tired of all the restaurants in NO by now? Geez wake the up Spurs and just PLAY HARD. Crawford had an agenda so we decide to just ing quit and not try?
We looked like in the third we decided to just play. Pop didn't call a timeout a few times he could have there, like a pickup game they just.. played it out and got burned.
David's Stern's next brilliant idea is to appoint pedophiles to watch kids in daycare....
There is no way Crawford should have been reffing that game, and something about the fact that he was stinks.
I encourage any of you to talk to someone you know...tell them that a ref that ejected Duncan for doing nothing more than laughing about a bad call with another player on the bench...and that ref was then suspended for the last third of the season because of his ejection of Duncan...yet that same ref then wound up reffing pivotal playoff games involving Duncan...
Watch their expression...there was something really wrong with Crawford being the guy that reffed that game.
I understand giving the refs the benefit of the doubt in terms of professionalism and not allowing a personal bias to infuence their officiating...
But Joey Crawford has already been found to have a personal bias against Duncan that he has little or no control over, he's already shown he he can't control it and it does influence his decision making...this is fact, this is not fiction, he was suspended by the NBA for 29 games for his actions...
There's no doubt this guy has a bias against Duncan and has struggled to control it...he should not be allowed to ref any playoff games involving the Spurs for the forseeable future.
Joey Crawford doesn't get the benefit of the doubt...he lost that right when he ejected Duncan for doing nothing more than interacting with a teamate on his own bench.
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I will never get into a conspiracy discussion because a lot of teams have their own stuff too. But by god if you are not dumb as if anyone don't think something has gone on between the lines in Game 5 alone.
How about that game with Garnett pushing the ref, nothing happened? And you really think the Jazz have a chance against the Lakers now?
NBA is a joke.
Okay, so you're not whining about the Spurs playing badly.
...wait, you're not whining about the Spurs playing badly?
I heard someone say "the Celtics trade was a setup, the Lakers trade was too, but was delayed till before the deadline for publicity reasons"
some people live on this stuff. i know people that will lecture you all day on how and why the nba is a fix, this and that. how sometimes they cannot control outcomes so they count it as balancing the cause. its stupid i have no reason to explain more either.
And the NBA deserves all the unfounded speculation they get, for being stupid enough to allow it to happen...I hope they never hear the end of it.
The Spurs' pride and self-respect for themselves were absent last night. There's something really different with this team, season and playoffs.
It must be Tim (who else? Pop?), he can't be bothered in too many games. Very un $professional, very un-leader-like.
10 pts through 3qtrs? 'im.
I detached emotionally from the Spurs after 04 playoffs, which crushe me.
But I got too expectant that the game3,4 Spurs 'mo would carry to Ws in games5,6.
Don't worry, I'm OK now!
This is just for you.
I am at a Spurs forum. My team's forum. Since I was a little kid I followed this team, and all that sappy stuff. Here, I have been for a few years, and I feel as though I am with my congregation of people like me with similar interests. So if I vent, or show my displeasure in my team's play- please do me a favor and understand who you are, what you represent and where you are is here, at a Spurs forum. My Spurs forum. So get the over it. You are one among a handful against a crowd so please do suck my if me ing about my team doesn't shake well with you after a bad game.
Secondly, me saying "Nobody is whining" means shut the up saying over and over I make excuses for this that and bleh blah crap. I am not crying about how bad we played, I am all out ing because it's stupid knowing we can play better. And I can say that with truth, les and add some emphasis to your point every now and then. You like? If you feel like whining when the Hornets lose tomorrow night, my PM's stay cleaned out for you to bomb away sweetheart. Or you can goto your own damn Hornets forum bub.
Needless to say, I completely agree with you.
I am not looking at last night as a huge deal anymore. It happened. Pop did not react well to Crawdead getting in his face and poking him much less the calls all night. He used 4down too much and tried to some how, force the Spurs to just suddenly turn it on. It failed, Spurs should have let it go from deep and manned up. Not let Pop take out his frustration with bad subs and play calling at crucial points of the game. We were playing like crap as it was.The Spurs' pride and self-respect for themselves were absent last night. There's something really different with this team, season and playoffs.
It must be Tim (who else? Pop?), he can't be bothered in too many games. Very un $professional, very un-leader-like.
10 pts through 3qtrs? 'im.
I detached emotionally from the Spurs after 04 playoffs, which crushe me.
But I got too expectant that the game3,4 Spurs 'mo would carry to Ws in games5,6.
Don't worry, I'm OK now!
"I am not whining, I am just whining"?
I'll try one more time for Hornets fans sake, normally I don't give the Suns/Mavs trolls time to think but hey, I feel bad for you.
Basically, this is a Spurs forum. And Spurs fans vent. You are a complete and utter dumb ass for being here and opening your mouth about the subject. Some people here do it on other teams forums as well, which is stupid. But oh well you can all be ing stupid together.
Now say you want to talk ball or basketball, I am sure intelligent threads await your insider information. But it aint this one. Now for whatever reason you cannot catch a point, is beyond me. I rather not go on and on about it as I don't try to waste my time on purpose, as you obviously do.
I just want to talk basketball. *shrugs*
Because you have yet to make one that makes any sense.
We lost because we could not hit a shot or play defense coming out of the locker room for the 3rd quarter. Pull your heads out of your asses.
Of course the refs had something to do with it...it is the NBA. If you don't like the way the refs call the games, don't watch/follow the NBA. It has always been like that and it will always be.
ps: we will get the calls to change the momentum in SA tomorrow, we will win tomorrow. Then we will go to NO and see who the better team is. If the Spurs show up and play the WHOLE game, we will win and move on. If not, the Hornets will.
The Spurs have been inconsistent all year, this isn't new for this series. Watch a few games in the regular season and you won't be as surprised now. Even though the playoffs is a different game, you still have to shoot consistently. Why do you think Pop always says the difference this year is "we didn't make shots" or "we made shots".
Some of you fans can be downright STUPID!!! You know nothing close to as much as Pop/Spurs players know about basketball, so just shut the up and watch the game.
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