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    You know one of the new 7 deadly sins is having excesive money....

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    70k yeah, that's no more than your daily pack of cigarretes to him, real cheap. How much has deke donated to making his hospital in congo? I heard it was in the region of 15 million, what about charles barkley? He donated at least 10 mill to the city of nevada, and facing a lawsuit for not giving enough, life is unfair.

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    How much did you donate v2freak?
    Actually, that's none of your business. Thanks for inquiring, I guess.

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    70k yeah, that's no more than your daily pack of cigarretes to him, real cheap. How much has deke donated to making his hospital in congo? I heard it was in the region of 15 million, what about charles barkley? He donated at least 10 mill to the city of nevada, and facing a lawsuit for not giving enough, life is unfair.
    Dude, in various ways, China has probably recieved about 40-50 mil from Yao. People should seriously consider that.

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    If you are a Chinese athlete, the government OWNS you like a commodity.

    That is why Yao will try to play for the Chinese National Team even if he is not healthy this summer.

    The masses get brainwashed into practicing class warfare and the gifted citizens like Yao get intimidated into doing what the government wished.

    The Chinese Basketball federation levies a huge tax against Yao's basketball salary. Sad by true. These infringements against the rights of their citizens are wrong, but all must bow at the alter of the all providing government over there, where they try to placate the masses with crumbs. A failed system eventually.

    Hopefully by the time my kids are grown (these things take time), the Chinese people will rise up and liquidate the Communist officials system over there.

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    If you are a Chinese athlete, the government OWNS you like a commodity.

    That is why Yao will try to play for the Chinese National Team even if he is not healthy this summer.

    The masses get brainwashed into practicing class warfare and the gifted citizens like Yao get intimidated into doing what the government wished.

    The Chinese Basketball federation levies a huge tax against Yao's basketball salary. Sad by true. These infringements against the rights of their citizens are wrong, but all must bow at the alter of the all providing government over there, where they try to placate the masses with crumbs. A failed system eventually.

    Hopefully by the time my kids are grown (these things take time), the Chinese people will rise up and liquidate the Communist officials system over there.
    your view of china and chinese is just a little bit antiquated.

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    It's changing over there. I expect that soon they will be just like Sweden and Norway in their political system as well. Economics rule the day. Free enterprise and trade. How can they call themselves Communists with a straight face? LOL

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    Did all American NBA players give an enormous amount of money after Katrina? Why weren't they criticized?

    Did those people who complained give more, even %-wise, than Yao? Did they give their life savings like Deng's widow?

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    Actually, that's none of your business. Thanks for inquiring, I guess.
    0 dollars and 0 friggin cents!

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    70k yeah, that's no more than your daily pack of cigarretes to him, real cheap. How much has deke donated to making his hospital in congo? I heard it was in the region of 15 million, what about charles barkley? He donated at least 10 mill to the city of nevada, and facing a lawsuit for not giving enough, life is unfair.
    I am sure 70k is nothing compare to what Kobe gave to that gold digger in Colorado.



    [lol@myself, gold digger in colorado, now that's gold]

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    Actually, that's none of your business.
    Convenient.

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    Actually, that's none of your business. Thanks for inquiring, I guess.
    So you can criticize others for their donations, but the amount you gave is none of anyone's business. No hypocrisy there.

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    They should be grateful to receive a shovel and a blank get-well card.

    It's not like he hasn't done or won't do anything again for his country.

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    So you can criticize others for their donations, but the amount you gave is none of anyone's business. No hypocrisy there.
    Yup. A lot of celebrities (Lindsay Lohan comes to mind) complain about the lack of privacy in their lives, but celebrities should know that everything they do will be publicized. It's the good-and-bad of being a celebrity; you get all kinds of fame wher wanted or not. Whatever he donated, in real terms, will help a lot of people. But it seems he could have have donated more for the country he holds so much pride for.

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    Yup. A lot of celebrities (Lindsay Lohan comes to mind) complain about the lack of privacy in their lives, but celebrities should know that everything they do will be publicized. It's the good-and-bad of being a celebrity; you get all kinds of fame wher wanted or not. Whatever he donated, in real terms, will help a lot of people. But it seems he could have have donated more for the country he holds so much pride for.
    Maybe that's why he did? Kind of shoots your theory to , doesn't it?

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    Actually, that's none of your business.
    And Yao's donation is none of your business.

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    You seem to have a lot of answers. Do you know what his disposable income is, and how much he donated exactly?

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    That's none of your business.

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    You seem to have a lot of answers. Do you know what his disposable income is, and how much he donated exactly?
    http://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/759-yao-ming

    Yep. Man, he's a selfish tightwad.

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    That's none of your business.
    And Yao's donation is none of your business.
    Okay. I will drop this. But, keep in mind that while we wonder what Tim has done in terms of donations and charity work - he likes to keep it a secret, as many suspect - others praise Yao for donating what others have described as "pennies to him."

    This is what I said earlier: What do athletes really need with all that money? One house not enough? Maybe you believe that athletes deserve to make more than researchers, doctors and technicians. I don't care if you do, but I personally disagree with this degree of inequity. Less importantly, I don't care if you care about my opinion on the matter, but I think that what athletes and celebrities already do is simply not enough.

    And this will be my last thoughts on the thread: just because you think Yao did a good deed does not make it any more your business than it does mine.

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    It's none of your business and I don't care what you think.

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    Veteran Harry Callahan's Avatar
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    your view of china and chinese is just a little bit antiquated.
    You say my view is antiquated - is my view inaccurate? Probably not. I know that the government has allowed more things to the masses than in the sixties and seventies.

    Please answer these questions so my antiquated view of China can be corrected.

    Is it a violation of Chinese law to have more than one child? If a couple is expecting a second child, what happens? Abortion? Is the child taken away due to the population control laws?

    Is it still a dangerous endevour to distribute bibles in Red China? It is my understanding that these activities are very risky even now. In China, the official view of any type of organized religion is not very forgiving. It is a threat to the state.

    The Chinese goverment is closing down a bunch of factories close to the Olympics site so that the air quality will be better in August. The affected companies have no say in the matter.

    A co-worker of mine visited China a couple of weeks ago on a trip that was part of an MBA program at the University of Texas. He stayed in one of the larger cities and did not enjoy his visit very much. He said the area was dirty and not geared well for tourism. He is not going back.

    Look at this internet site we are using. The Chinese goverment filters all internet traffic to a much greater extent than free countries. Control the access to information. This is what totalitarian governments have done for years.

    The good news is the doors to the rest of the world have been allowed to open, and the Chicoms may not be able to suppress their subjects in the long run.

    Yao Ming did a good thing for suffering people in his country, but it was not good enough for some. He pays a majority of his NBA salary to the Chinese government, and still must pay US taxes as well. His heart is in the right place.

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    Okay. I will drop this. But, keep in mind that while we wonder what Tim has done in terms of donations and charity work - he likes to keep it a secret, as many suspect - others praise Yao for donating what others have described as "pennies to him."

    This is what I said earlier: What do athletes really need with all that money? One house not enough? Maybe you believe that athletes deserve to make more than researchers, doctors and technicians. I don't care if you do, but I personally disagree with this degree of inequity. Less importantly, I don't care if you care about my opinion on the matter, but I think that what athletes and celebrities already do is simply not enough.

    And this will be my last thoughts on the thread: just because you think Yao did a good deed does not make it any more your business than it does mine.
    How much money does a professional athlete bring into their sport and their city? How much money do you think think even a small market team like the Spurs have made from Tim Duncan?

    How much money do you think Michael Jordan made for the city of Chicago. Is it even measurable? Can you even begin to quantify the benefit to local businesses, local sporting events, , just the buzz that he created here? Taxes from commercial deals? Ticket sales? Merchandising? Do you even think about the kind of relationship between what an athlete makes and what he earns for a city, or just dismiss them as overpaid without looking at the relationship between revenue gained and salary? I do not mean to dismiss doctors, professors, or the friendly tech support guys over at Dell.

    What they do is vastly more important than the job of an athlete. Yet, when you see a billboard in Cleveland and it states: "We are all witnesses" you know who it's talking about without even seeing the jersey. Sports drive a city, and if you can do a little economics research, you will find that a stadium brings in more money to a city for it's land area and cost than any other structure. The stimulus provided by a packed stadium (especially baseball with 162 games a year) is simply unmatched. Even with only 30,000 fans per game at $25 per ticket, that equates to $60 million +. Without merchandising. Without food+drink. Without playoffs. Without traffic or residual stimulus to the local business. $60 million a year on tickets alone.

    Fans are willing to throw down $200+ for a jersey, $1500 for a signed jersey, spend thousands of dollars per season on tickets, not to mention investing a ton of time into the sport, and they claim athletes are overpaid in the same breath. That is akin to stating that we need to preserve the rainforest while living in a log cabin with a wood burning furnace in Brazil.

    The really funny part is that the athletes are always the ones talked about here. What about the owners? What about league administration? Do you think Jerry Buss drives around in a Pinto? Think David Stern lives in a tiny condo on the lower east side in NYC?

    No, of course not. But you don't see them, so they never cross your mind, because you never stop to think. You just like to point out the popular scapegoat to feel better about what you haven't done to help the world.
    Last edited by Cry Havoc; 05-21-2008 at 10:47 AM.

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    $70,000 can do a lot of good. Why does everyone want to put their hand in Yaos pocket?

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    I feel bad for Yao, and I also feel bad for the earthquake victims, If Yao doesn't have to only contribute money I'm sure there other things he can do to support them.

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