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  1. #26
    Blow hole! dickface's Avatar
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    Ah, Ilgauskas is the exact opposite of a "journeyman."

    Just block this imbecile.
    Tell us more about what a great defensive player Peja is, smart guy.

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    Tell us more about what a great defensive player Peja is, smart guy.
    What the are you talking about?

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    Blow hole! dickface's Avatar
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    What the are you talking about?
    Don't play dumb, ass face.

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    Don't project, face.

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    THE SPURS' GODFATHER san antonio spurs's Avatar
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    KG is exposed this year because people have higher expectations. He's been the same his entire career and seriously only uneducated sports writers thought he was all that (a superstar).
    Many knowledgeable analysts said he needed a star player in order to win, thus the trades talk to play him alongside Kobe, Lebron or Nash.

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    Garnett shut down the Cavs big men because a.) Varejao and Wallace are non-factors offensively anyway, b.) Garnett pushes off on every rebound and c.) Garnett constantly camps out in the lane in blatant defiance of the three-second rule.

    As for Ray Allen, he's nothing more than a one-dimensional player at this point. His ankles are giving way on him and he can't create his own shot. Not really his fault.

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    Dirk is FAAAR more cluch than Garnett... it isnt even close.

    Dirk may have a couple of playoff funks... but so has Tim Duncan... heck so has MJ

    Garnett has NEVER come out in the clutch.

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    I don't buy that "reps" can make a person clutch. To some extent it can help to have that experience under your belt (the Hornets will be that much better next year), but guys like karl malone played plenty of conference finals games/finals games and were STILL chokers!

    Kobe was only a teenager when he entered the league, how good was he supposed to be at that age?

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    Hard to argue, he didnt win anything till he got Tim.
    all he had was Elliott till he got Tim.....plus the Spurs changed coaches like women change clothes.....daily it seemed. There was no continuity in San Antonio until Pop became the coach. Big Market teams have can do the coaching carousel and still be successful because they can attract the big name players.....small market teams need consistency and continuity. They need to keep the same core for a long time and build upon it in order to be successful.

    His two best chances were in his Rookie season, but Rod Strickland ended that with his no look pass to no one in game 7 against Portland

    Then in 95 against the Rockets. He was the only one who showed up. Of course the Rockets could double and triple team him, no one else could make a shot. Rodman was more of a distraction than a help. Hakeem went off against us, but he also went off against all the other teams in the playoffs....and he totally raped Shaq in the Finals. Hill was our version of D'Antoni in that series and Rudy T was Pop.

    BTW, Robinson was only healthy for the first 7 years of his career....and during those 7 years, his all around stats had him as the #1 all around player in the league during that span.....statwise anyway. Only Michael Jordan was on his level statwise. Of course, there is more to basketball than stats....and Jordan had that IT.....

    If you take Robinson from his first 7 years and put him on that Bulls team that won 72 games.....I firmly believe they go 82-0 and then 15-0 on the way to the Championship.

    David will forever be THE MAN in my eyes.

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    I'm a chessplayer. Are you?
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    Funny enough, the clutch guys mentioned all had awesome teammates and the chokers all had lousy teammates (except Karl Malone).

    Clutch and choke are always waaaay overrated. Give me enough quality and I'll take my chances.

    Didn't David Robinson play for the 2003 Spurs?
    Yes. At age 37, a physical shadow of his former self. Playing with a rookie Ginobili and second year Parker. I guess, by your logic, the Suns should have gone right through the Spurs since they had Shaq and Grant Hill. You're talking about two All-NBA guys joining Nash and Amare!

    The spirit of that comment is that it's too bad that Robinson, during the prime seasons of his career, didn't have stud teammates like Timmy has had during his prime seasons. But thanks for playing dumb so I could spell all this out.

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    KG is the better overall player than Dirk.

    I would acquiesce to the notion that Dirk is more clutch on offense than KG.
    The he is. KG's much better defense is cancelled out by Dirk's much better ability to carry a team. At worst, they're equal.

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    I agree with the idea that somehow these playoffs are even more damagaing to KG's rep.

    In Minny he could hide behind ty teammates, or not playing enough big games, but in Boston he is playing with the best regular season team. And in the playoffs he has had so many chances to come through, yet he plays hot potato like no one else in the 4th quarter. He has missed out on every single opportunity this year.

    I said it in another thread, but he is really on another level. CWebb would play hot potato in the last two minutes of a game, Garnett just covers himself with a blanket the whole 4th quarter. He does so, even when he is having a nice game before that. And as I write this KG is being owned by Rasheed.

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    I think KG deserves getting called out because of his BS "I invented intensity" persona and because of the way he runs his mouth.

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    There is no bigger bag in the NBA then Rasheed Wallace.

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    Rasheed will own him in this serie

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    Rasheed will own him in this serie


    You overestimate Rasheed. He is just one bad call from being ejected.

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    You overestimate Rasheed. He is just one bad call from being ejected.
    KG is just one quarter from disapearing

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    I've been saying the same thing about KG for years. If you've watched the guy long enough you know how he is. He was finally starting to get more assertive in the clutch starting in '03 and it carried through to '04 but now he's back to being the same guy that shrinks so small in big moments you need a microscope to find him on the floor.

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    Lab Animal Capt Bringdown's Avatar
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    ...but now he's back to being the same guy that shrinks so small in big moments you need a microscope to find him on the floor.
    He didn't do much shrinking today, and it was a pretty big moment. Important game 1 following a grueling game 7. Celts with the big Mo right now.

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    He didn't do much shrinking today, and it was a pretty big moment. Important game 1 following a grueling game 7. Celts with the big Mo right now.
    He played like it was game 1 of a playoff series at home and not game 7 or an elimination game.

    He deserves credit, but let's not talk about him not shrinking in game 1 of a series.

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    david robinson never had a point guard like tp and another player like manu
    oh and duncan has
    neither did tim in '99

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    Well while we were all roasting KG, he came up REALLY big tonight. Had a great game and punked Rasheed Wallace.

    With that said, it was only one game...hopefully for the Celts, he'll be able to do this in every game.

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    KG has good playoff games...every dog has its day

    just kidding

    KG is not a clutch, go-to guy. He has a great overall game, but if you dump the ball to him in close games, expect to the ball to be thrown right out again most of the times. That's ALWAYS been his fault.

    "Clutch" "choker" has become overused. ALL great players have "choked" in important games, but at the very least they are willing to take on that burden of trying to close out the game.

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    Ironically enough I think this postseason, in which his team is could still conceivably win a championship, is doing as much damage to his reputation as any of his first round exits. That game 7 against Cleveland was pretty damning. If Paul Pierce doesn't rise up and match Lebron shot for shot the Celtics are fishing right now. There's no reason that a team with a "Big 3" should have to have one of them step up like that to beat a one man show like Lebron.
    Pierce is the

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