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  1. #26
    Truthsayer
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    Don't you think the wishes of the alleged victim should be considered at all? Who cares what you want?
    I haven't heard anyone ask what she wants. I'm sure she wishes she could refute Kobe's publicity campaign.

    Sounds like you want to offer her up as a sacrificial lamb to the cause of enlightening the world about sexual assault.
    I wouldn't want to do anything to hurt her. If she is telling the truth then where is the hurt? She has nothing to be ashamed of.

    There are better ways to accomplish that goal IMO.
    Like what? This is a perfect opportunity. Maybe at some point her and her attorney will realize that. Maybe she has but her attorney/parents/DA haven't. We don't really know what her true feelings and wishes are. Why should we presume that she wishes to keep her iden y a "dirty little secret?"

  2. #27
    Spurminator
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    I think the iden ies of all parties should be kept secret until the cases are decided by the jury/judge. But that's a whole other discussion.

    Yeah, it's your right to publish her life story. But if I owned a news vehicle, I would prefer to take the high road. Then, if she proves to be a liar, smear her without remorse.

  3. #28
    scott
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    Personally, I think the bas is guilty and I want everyone in America to see the little girl he raped. I want them to have that picture in their mind every time they think of Kobe Bryant.
    Maybe she doesn't want to be the posterchild for rape. Maybe she is in enough pain and doesn't want everyone to think of her being raped everytime Kobe is mentioned.

  4. #29
    sainformer
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    Kori, finishing up the story now. I'll have it posted in your forum by 3:30 p.m.

  5. #30
    picnroll
    Guest
    I believe normally th iden y of an alleged rape victim is protected. The difference here is the alleged perpetrator's prominence. Should your individual ethical standards in publishing be determined by cir stances and by what other writer/publishers do?

  6. #31
    Truthsayer
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    FOR ME, seeing her picture made me realize that she really is just a kid and it must have taken a lot of guts for her to come forward and report this and how scared she must of been.
    That's what I'm talking about.

    She's been accused of being a , gold digger, you name it, she's been called it. When this all came out, I had a totally different picture of her in my mind. She really is the girl next door.
    Now you can relate to her as a real person. Not a character in a news story.

    I hope she comes forward and tell her side. If it helps just one person to have the guts to report a rape, then to me, it would be worth it.
    Absolutely.

    Gregg - this is the real story behind the story. This debate is what you should go with.

  7. #32
    o0drpill0o
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    I think by seeing her picture you can identify with her more. FOR ME, seeing her picture made me realize that she really is just a kid and it must have taken a lot of guts for her to come forward and report this and how scared she must of been.
    See, I just don't know why it should MATTER what any of us want or don't want to see. It doesn't matter if you think it will help people understand her or not. Once her picture comes out, and with the length of time this whole thing is going to take, she will be as famous as Monica Lewinsky. Not everyone wants to deal with that the rest of their life, and it's unfair that just because the person who allegedly assaulted her was a celebrity, she will have no say in it.

    I hope she comes forward and tell her side. If it helps just one person to have the guts to report a rape, then to me, it would be worth it.
    This is a great point. She could be a spokesperson for victims of sexual assault, and I think her story could be a big help to a lot of girls. But I still think she should have a choice in coming forward, and it really doesn't look like she does.

  8. #33
    o0drpill0o
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    We don't really know what her true feelings and wishes are. Why should we presume that she wishes to keep her iden y a "dirty little secret?"
    Until she confirms that herself, to assume otherwise and act on that assumption is sheer ignorance. I am surprised you can't see that, as you seem pretty smart.

  9. #34
    MannyIsGod
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    Dan are you dense?

    She's released a statment through the DA wishing privacy. Why do you think she's been out of the public eye.

    Whether you think the DA was influencing that decision is irrelevent, they have made it and we should respect it.

    We just live in an information hungry society and we seek that information at the expensive individuals at times.

    I don't understand why the people need to see her, it makes no sense.

  10. #35
    Bounce580
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    Eagle County District Attorney Mark Hurlbert said Monday he would not comment on the reports or how they would affect his case. He called the reports "unfortunate."

    "I would rather that her privacy be honored and that she be able to remain private," Hurlbert s
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    www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/07/2...index.html
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    Her wishes to remain private would pretty much trump your wishes to see her become some sexual assualt posterchild.

  11. #36
    o0drpill0o
    Guest
    We just live in an information hungry society and we seek that information at the expensive individuals at times.
    It's weird. It sounds like some people feel as though they have an inherent right to this information. Too bad they don't feel the same way about things that actually matter. This situation is an individual's private experience, and it is none of my business, and none of any of yours either, until the individual involved decides to make it public.

    The media will give you all you want, though, so if you feel like lapping it up be my guest. That's your right as an American, dammit.

  12. #37
    Truthsayer
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    Dan are you dense?
    She's released a statment through the DA wishing privacy. Why do you think she's been out of the public eye.
    Whether you think the DA was influencing that decision is irrelevent, they have made it and we should respect it.
    She didn't release a statement. The DA just said something like: "the victim and her family will not be talking to the press. Please direct all inquiries through our office." Nobody has ever read a statement purportedly written by the victim herself. We don't know what her wishes are and I won't presume that she wants annonymity since I sincerely believe that that is not in her own best interest.

    I don't understand why the people need to see her, it makes no sense.
    Read S y's comment above and then maybe you will understand.

    I'm sorry, but for personal reasons I am passionate about this issue. Disagree, if you will, but I believe that annonymity does more to protect the perpetrator than it does to protect the victim. And it has the additional undesirable result of protecting all the un-named perpetrators out there who never get reported because their victims are too ashamed to come forward.

  13. #38
    tlongII
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    If she is hot then you should post the photo.

  14. #39
    MannyIsGod
    Guest
    and for personal reasons i am passoinate as well, but i disagree with you.

    Either way, her lack of exposure should be enough for you to realize she doesn't want to be in the public eye. If she wanted her picture everywhere she would have come to the press, she has not, wonder why?

    Dan, its obvious what her intentions are as far as privacy, you are reaching for straws to believe otherwise based on what YOU want.

    I know you have your beliefs, but violating someone else's wishes to satisfy those beliefs is not right.

  15. #40
    Truthsayer
    Guest
    "I would rather that her privacy be honored.."
    SEE, he wants her to remain private. He didn't say that's what she wants.

  16. #41
    Truthsayer
    Guest
    If she is hot then you should post the photo.
    Put down the bong dude.

  17. #42
    MannyIsGod
    Guest
    Dan,

    Do you honestly believe she wants her picture in the media?

  18. #43
    tlongII
    Guest
    She is hot. I am down with the photo.

  19. #44
    scott
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    But honoring her privacy is nothing more than allowing her to decide if/when she wants to be public.

    Publishing her photo in a newspaper, does not.

  20. #45
    sainformer
    Guest
    Here's the link over at the NBA forum on what I ended up writing about the coverage of the Bryant trial coming up.

    pub237.ezboard.com/ffulls...=292.topic

  21. #46
    sainformer
    Guest
    Look if you really want to get technical with the whole thing I'll put this in a nuts for all of us.

    The only way anonymity works is, as someone already stated, is that BOTH PARTIES are not divulged.

    The minute Bryant's name popped up as being arrested, the DA's wishes went to in a hand basket.

    This isn't 1986 people or even 1996. With the right info, any one of us can get info on the other. It's that simple and that scary.

    Sometimes the best thing to do in a case like this of such prominence is for the victim TO COME FORWARD. That way all speculation is gone. The frenzy for her to talk may still have been there but because the DA and her family want to try and protect her, the media (including myself) are becoming active participants ina three ring circus.

    Sadly that is what happens in a society that is of the microwave mentality.

    I have no problem taking the high road on this and have but believe me, there will be others who will use this to their advantage.

  22. #47
    MannyIsGod
    Guest
    Yeah, everyone has their opinion of the best thing she should do.

    The only one that matters is hers.

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