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    Gasol is being guarded by Tim Duncan. He has an excuse.

    Odom is being guarded by slow ass Oberto and 90 year old Robert Horry. He has no excuses. He's just not playing smart enough.
    I thought Gasol was on an even keel with Duncan. I remember you postng full game lines between the two and arguing he wasn't Duncan's .
    We also couldn't match up with Odom, since he was too fast to be guarded. He would just put the ball on the floor and go around Oberto for the easy basket.

    But then again, maybe I'm expecting too much from you. After all, you're the same guy that claimed Shaq owned Duncan and was inside his head.

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    The Spurs are going to shoot lights out at home if the Lakers keep giving them uncontested looks.

    Barry, Finley, Bowen, etc. got way too many open looks.
    You have to pick your poison. You cannot both pack the lane to thwart Duncan and Parker AND play our shooters honestly. If you continue to pack the lane, 10 made 3s will not be unusual to see in any game.

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    Well, if we continue to gamble by playing Sasha and Vladdy on him he can very much get hot and score in bunches. I like Sasha's D, but he's at least another 2 years away from being a real solid defensive player.
    Ariza will play more in Game 4. Another fresh, strong, quick, athletic defender. He will be one of the biggest adjustments.

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    You have to pick your poison. You cannot both pack the lane to thwart Duncan and Parker AND play our shooters honestly. If you continue to pack the lane, 10 made 3s will not be unusual to see in any game.
    You're right, that's why the spurs are successful, however what happened in game 2 was a more consorted effort by the laker wing players to get to the shooter which resulted in a lot of missed shots. I say live and die by the 3. I don't believe the Spurs can win this series relying on the 3 but need to pound it in and get the majority of the points in the paint.

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    You have to pick your poison. You cannot both pack the lane to thwart Duncan and Parker AND play our shooters honestly. If you continue to pack the lane, 10 made 3s will not be unusual to see in any game.
    Totally agree. But the Lakers can do a much better job of contesting those 3's. No excuse for those guys to be that blatantly wide open.

    That's why SAS is so difficult to beat at home. Their shooters shoot very well from behind the arc, and that's usually enough of a push to get them over the hump.

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    Totally agree. But the Lakers can do a much better job of contesting those 3's. No excuse for those guys to be that blatantly wide open.

    That's why SAS is so difficult to beat at home. Their shooters shoot very well from behind the arc, and that's usually enough of a push to get them over the hump.
    If you play the shooters, well, Parker has one 40 point game and three 30 point outings this post season, so don't sleep on him, either.

    Ariza is a long athletic defender, but realistically, he allows the Spurs to place a perimeter defender in one of your post players laps. His jumpshot is worse than Tony Parker, pre 2005.

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    If you play the shooters, well, Parker has one 40 point game and three 30 point outings this post season, so don't sleep on him, either.

    Ariza is a long athletic defender, but realistically, he allows the Spurs to place a perimeter defender in one of your post players laps. His jumpshot is worse than Tony Parker, pre 2005.
    Parker and Duncan will probably continue to get 20ppg this entire series. The key is limiting Ginobli to 10-15 pts and making sure the other role players don't go bananas from 3pt land. 20-30 pts from Parker and Duncan is not enough to beat the Lakers. You need 20+ from each of the Big 3 and some good contributions from the role players.

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    Parker and Duncan will probably continue to get 20ppg this entire series. The key is limiting Ginobli to 10-15 pts and making sure the other role players don't go bananas from 3pt land. 20-30 pts from Parker and Duncan is not enough to beat the Lakers. You need 20+ from each of the Big 3 and some good contributions from the role players.
    If you unpack the lane, Parker and Duncan may both go for 30. Finley is a statue, but both Barry and Ginobili can ball fake to get an escape dribble or two and get an easy 15 footer or a finish at the hoop. If you rotate to them, well, our 3 point shooters live off of the defense rotating.

    The Spurs gave you too many easy defensive options by running heavy pick and roll in gms 1 and 2. The play that seemed to give you fits last game was when Duncan held the ball above the FT line and Parker or Ginobili worked back and forth without the ball looking for the seam. When they chose their side, Duncan would do a handoff as they ran by, and it was almost impossible to trap them. The defense rotated to them and a shooter was uncovered. Viola. If there was no rotation, they went to the rack.

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    Even if you get 20+ from Timmy, Manu and Parker that's still gonna be about 75 points...that ain't gonna be enough to beat L.A. Since Pau can't guard Duncan for , I expect Timmy to get his....Farmar and Fish did a decent job of defending Parker in Games 1 & 2, I don't know why they felt the need to drop off in Game 3. Putting Ariza's length on Manu will bother him...Sasha's long but he isn't as quick as Gino so that's a problem. The Lakers knew they had it bad when Oberto starting making shots. SMH.

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    If you unpack the lane, Parker and Duncan may both go for 30. Finley is a statue, but both Barry and Ginobili can ball fake to get an escape dribble or two and get an easy 15 footer or a finish at the hoop. If you rotate to them, well, our 3 point shooters live off of the defense rotating.

    The Spurs gave you too many easy defensive options by running heavy pick and roll in gms 1 and 2. The play that seemed to give you fits last game was when Duncan held the ball above the FT line and Parker or Ginobili worked back and forth without the ball looking for the seam. When they chose their side, Duncan would do a handoff as they ran by, and it was almost impossible to trap them. The defense rotated to them and a shooter was uncovered. Viola. If there was no rotation, they went to the rack.

    Pop just hid the easy button by replacing Vaughn with Barry at backup 1.

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    I wonder if Pop will resort to Hack-A-Odom tomorrow.

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    I wonder if Pop will resort to Hack-A-Odom tomorrow.
    Probably not.

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    If you unpack the lane, Parker and Duncan may both go for 30. Finley is a statue, but both Barry and Ginobili can ball fake to get an escape dribble or two and get an easy 15 footer or a finish at the hoop. If you rotate to them, well, our 3 point shooters live off of the defense rotating.

    The Spurs gave you too many easy defensive options by running heavy pick and roll in gms 1 and 2. The play that seemed to give you fits last game was when Duncan held the ball above the FT line and Parker or Ginobili worked back and forth without the ball looking for the seam. When they chose their side, Duncan would do a handoff as they ran by, and it was almost impossible to trap them. The defense rotated to them and a shooter was uncovered. Viola. If there was no rotation, they went to the rack.
    The Spurs didn't give ME anything. Popovich definitely freed up the offense and started going away from the TD/TP P&R that has been so successful this entire playoffs. The Lakers simply weren't ready for it, no reason to think they won't adjust in Game 4. You seriously underestimate Phil if you think he won't counter.

    That being said, the offense is where the majority of LA's problems lie. The triangle options have been way oversimplified and SAS is starting to catch on to things and get a familiarity with how LA is running things. Phil will look to expand things and we will probably start seeing Kobe in the pinch post a little more like they did in Utah for Game 4.

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    The Spurs didn't give ME anything. Popovich definitely freed up the offense and started going away from the TD/TP P&R that has been so successful this entire playoffs. The Lakers simply weren't ready for it, no reason to think they won't adjust in Game 4. You seriously underestimate Phil if you think he won't counter.

    That being said, the offense is where the majority of LA's problems lie. The triangle options have been way oversimplified and SAS is starting to catch on to things and get a familiarity with how LA is running things. Phil will look to expand things and we will probably start seeing Kobe in the pinch post a little more like they did in Utah for Game 4.
    Don't be obtuse. "YOU" meant LA, and you knew it.

    I expect adjustments, but the fact is that the adjustment we made for game 3 was more guard movement and cuts without the ball, and that's just flat harder to defend.

    Oh, and SA isn't "starting" to catch on to the triangle. Our core of four have all played you at least three times in the playoffs plus probably close to 30 regular season games as a unit, and Horry knows it intimately from being on your team. Don't expect the pinch post to catch us off guard or anything. There's probably nothing that you can throw at Tim, Tony, Manu, Bruce, and Horry that they haven't seen before.

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    Don't be obtuse. "YOU" meant LA, and you knew it.

    I expect adjustments, but the fact is that the adjustment we made for game 3 was more guard movement and cuts without the ball, and that's just flat harder to defend.

    Oh, and SA isn't "starting" to catch on to the triangle. Our core of four have all played you at least three times in the playoffs plus probably close to 30 regular season games as a unit, and Horry knows it intimately from being on your team. Don't expect the pinch post to catch us off guard or anything. There's probably nothing that you can throw at Tim, Tony, Manu, Bruce, and Horry that they haven't seen before.
    Right because I'm sure they remember exactly how the triangle was run 4 years ago. LA's cast of characters is completely different and the triangle is actually being run a lot differently than it was when we had Shaq. If they were so familiar with it why did they lose two games in a row?

    It really doesn't matter what we say, we aren't coaching or playing the game. Let's see how Game 4 pans out.

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