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    I never thought the Spurs would sign both Splitter and Mahinmi next year. So I wasn't expecting him to be here. Oh well.
    Ian Mahinmi will not contribute next year.

    I dont get others around here who compare the two as of now.

    Splitter is perhaps the best player in the second best league in the world... Hes polished and hes ready to go.

    Mahinmi plays in a pretty pathetic league....hes basically a poor mans Amir Johnson... hes 2 years away minimum.

    Theres no comparison... Splitter was our guy.

    Were stuck with Oberto next year and probably another Elson type scrub... while the Blazers got Oden and Aldridge

    Lakers got Bynum and Gasol

    Hornets got Chandler and West

    Suns have Shaq and Stoudemire

    Heck the Jazz got Boozer and Okur

    We have Duncan and....

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    spurs kind of dezserve this after fucing around with luis scola...They should have signed him when they drafted him...

    Just shows you how good we are at getting free agent we cannot even sign our own draft picks
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    One would hope that the Spurs didn't make the Scola deal in anticipation of Splitter joining the club this summer.
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    ESPN Brazil Update

    The same info that's in the blog, plus he has a no buyout clause after those 2 years.

    He can come to the NBA for "free". I think it may help the Spurs if they want to trade him.
    Splitter and Bonner looks like a trade pairing then. I see a draft pick and cap relief in our future.

    And it still f'n sucks!
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    "make that sacrifice"

    Anybody got an estimate the diff of a Spurs $contract vs Tau Euro-contract, over the next 2 years?

    Spurs have really come up empty-handed with their foreign bigs, Javtokas, Scola, Splitter. Mahinmi up next?

    Burning draft picks on these guys isn't so front-office brilliant if they never suit up.
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    The same info that's in the blog, plus he has a no buyout clause after those 2 years.

    He can come to the NBA for "free". I think it may help the Spurs if they want to trade him.
    Once again, what do the Spurs get of value in exchange for trading his rights? I don't get that. If this is a two year deal with no buyout in two years, then you try and sign him in two years. Simple as that. He has no value essentially until this contract is up.
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    whats up with these draft mistakes. god damn RC. How about drafting some mother ers who will actually PLAY.
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    Perhaps the Spurs' Scola escapade has ruined what could have been a longterm pipeline to foreign talent.

    If so, that's a shame because it could have been one of the few advantages the Spurs have over larger market teams.

    I fear that, while the Spurs were once seen as a Mecca by foreign players, now not so much.
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    The same info that's in the blog, plus he has a no buyout clause after those 2 years.

    He can come to the NBA for "free". I think it may help the Spurs if they want to trade him.

    IIRC Scola's buyout clause had something to do with him being a second rounder
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    brasilians never cease to amaze me. i know a few and they are honestly some of the most laziest, gimmie-now people i have ever known. oh well.
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    Oh well, more PT for Ian (hopefully).

    Yeah, hopefully Mahinmi can speed up his progress and be ready next season.
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    The same info that's in the blog, plus he has a no buyout clause after those 2 years.

    He can come to the NBA for "free". I think it may help the Spurs if they want to trade him.
    Thanks for the update. Does he have a buyout after one year or is he locked in for two?
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    That stupid .
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    Its easy to make him out to be a devil but its a business and the European side of it looks a lot better financially for guys like Splitter at the moment. Its a business and the Spurs aren't doing anything but looking out for themselves so I can't blame this guy for doing the same.
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    Alright so I was wondering, are Splitter and Scola really friends? If so, does anyone think Scola's perceived mistreatment by the Spurs contributed to Splitter signing an extension?
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    Thanks for the update. Does he have a buyout after one year or is he locked in for two?
    They didn't say anything about it.

    But in other report Bruno posted, it said that after the 1st year he has a 500k buyout.

    Do you think it maybe be a CIA move?

    Maybe the Spurs don't want his next season and then they have a option to bring him in 2009 for a 500k buyout or in 2010 for free.

    Too bad we will ever know. McDonald and Monroe will never know that.
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    Its easy to make him out to be a devil but its a business and the European side of it looks a lot better financially for guys like Splitter at the moment. Its a business and the Spurs aren't doing anything but looking out for themselves so I can't blame this guy for doing the same.
    My problem with Splitter is he should have been honest last summer. Before and after being drafted, he said he was going to sign. He knew he'd have to take one-third to one-fifth less money to sign. If he didn't want that, clue the Spurs in last summer.

    Now two-years from now, it's not unreasonable to think he'd have to take one-tenth as much money to join the Spurs ... which is why I think he'll never come now. Now one is going to sign a contract for one-tenth of their value.
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    They didn't say anything about it.

    But in other report Bruno posted, it said that after the 1st year he has a 500k buyout.

    Do you think it maybe be a CIA move?

    Maybe the Spurs don't want his next season and then they have a option to bring him in 2009 for a 500k buyout or in 2010 for free.

    Too bad we will ever know. McDonald and Monroe will never know that.
    I'm trying to think how it'd be a CIA move but I don't see it. It's too risky. Euro teams are getting richer while that first round money is staying the same. Getting him over ASAP was mandatory. Every month he stays in Spain, the bigger the gulf between his Euro contract and his NBA contract.
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    Ian Mahinmi not seeing minutes and Scola after being frozen brought in but traded to the Rockets scared him off..
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    No matter how badly the Spurs could use him now (if he even made it through summer league and camp), he owes the Spurs nothing.

    He could come in 2 years, but Tim will be well into decline in 2011/12.

    Huge opportunity for Ian. Let's see if he makes the team.
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    So assume Splitter gets 8x his rookie scale contract for 2 years, or roughly $5.5 mil per year. If he ever wants to play in the NBA then he's going to have to sign a contract under the rookie scale. Yes, he gets a bird in hand. But if he's any good he stands to eventually make significantly more than $5.5 mil per as a NBA bigman. By waiting to join the NBA he limits the opportunity for himself to sign multiple long-term contracts and of course, to sign that first large NBA contract after his rookie deal.
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    Ian Mahinmi not seeing minutes
    Good point. Tau probably told Splitter that the Spurs would likely just make him ride the buses of the D-League if he crossed the pond.

    Tau must laugh at how much they own the Spurs.
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    My problem with Splitter is he should have been honest last summer. Before and after being drafted, he said he was going to sign. He knew he'd have to take one-third to one-fifth less money to sign. If he didn't want that, clue the Spurs in last summer.

    Now two-years from now, it's not unreasonable to think he'd have to take one-tenth as much money to join the Spurs ... which is why I think he'll never come now. Now one is going to sign a contract for one-tenth of their value.
    This guy appeared to take a dump on the Spurs. Not cool.
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    So assume Splitter gets 8x his rookie scale contract for 2 years, or roughly $5.5 mil per year. If he ever wants to play in the NBA then he's going to have to sign a contract under the rookie scale. Yes, he gets a bird in hand. But if he's any good he stands to eventually make significantly more than $5.5 mil per as a NBA bigman. By waiting to join the NBA he limits the opportunity for himself to sign multiple long-term contracts and of course, to sign that first large NBA contract after his rookie deal.
    Yep. These two years likely will be the difference between getting two big NBA contracts and one big NBA contract. If he was interested in making it rich by staring in the NBA, this was the summer to come over and start the clock ticking on his rookie deal.
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