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    Believe? rAm's Avatar
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    GW I don't think I have seen you post anything that comes close to being legit in a long time.

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    Either use his numbers to point out his brilliance or ignore the numbers and make excuses.

    You can't have it both ways.


    Any way you dice it, Duncan's playoff averages are not up to par with his career playoff averages.


    And you fvcking homers would have to blind yourself to think that Duncan has not missed an inordinate amount of very makeable baskets.



    Get off your high horses and think critically for once.


    I'm begging you.

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    I just want to get this straight...

    You homers truly believe that Duncan has never played better in the playoffs... in spite of visual and statistical evidence to the contrary?


    Question.

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    He has the numbers, but he has been too soft when it counted.

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    He's not 2003 Duncan, but he's not exactly playing like . It's all relative.

    His offensive numbers are slightly down percentage wise if that's what you're after.

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    He has the numbers, but he has been too soft when it counted.

    +1

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    Duncan has been one of the best Spurīs player this series against Lakers.

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    I think he just relying too much on Parker and Manu to take over instead of just steam rolling on his defender like he use too. We need the old Duncan back where he took over games and was clutch when it mattered.

    He's going up to soft and waiting for the whistle. He's not being a dominant shot blocker. He far from what he use to be.

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    I just want to get this straight...

    You homers truly believe that Duncan has never played better in the playoffs... in spite of visual and statistical evidence to the contrary?


    Question.
    He might have played better in previous playoff seasons, but he damn sure is playing well enough these playoffs, and especially this series, for them to win. You're obviously looking for someone to blame here and it isn't Duncan, sorry.

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    Tim has been ineffective against the Lakers, with the exception of his rebounding. His offense is very Pau Gasolesque - soft, meaningless points. His defense isn't close to where it was two or three years ago.

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    I am saying that despite some good numbers, he's missing way too many important shots.

    And the increase in rebounding can be attributed to him grabbing a lot of his misses!

    You can't tell me that he's left his stamp on on series thus far and he's had maybe 2 vintage Duncan playoff performances so far.

    Everyone on the team needs to be accountable.




    I think that his e in minutes and the extra games that he's had to play has probably exhausted Duncan.

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    I agree ghost he hasn't played well, and I think the lack of a center who can score when hes on the bench has killed him.

    Had Splitter and Mahinmi came over next year, I would say that problem was 100% solved. Now that Splitter might not come over, its more in doubt, BUT, I think a tad bit of reloading on the big side, a couple tweaks here and there, and they can reload for another great run next year.

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    Tim has been ineffective against the Lakers, with the exception of his rebounding. His offense is very Pau Gasolesque - soft, meaningless points. His defense isn't close to where it was two or three years ago.
    What the are meaningless points? All points are important in sports where the score is kept. Also, Tim has been excellent in this series. He's more than done his part for the Spurs. It's the other players that have come up short in this series.

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    Its just you no question about it !XD

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    Tim has been ineffective against the Lakers, with the exception of his rebounding. His offense is very Pau Gasolesque - soft, meaningless points. His defense isn't close to where it was two or three years ago.
    Are you kidding me he has gotten more rebounds and points in this series than in any other one..well except for that phoenix game 1! But in rebounds his been exceptional its just that the other foolz are messing up ..Including my baby manu !=[

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    I think he still has a long way to go ..The only thing he is lacking in my eyes is the agressiveness! Dont know bout you guys but for next year there has to be sum drastic changes..A lot of ppl has been saying that if had a chance spurs would trade manu!!! Which Im hoping is just Gibberish..

    Finley,Stoudamire Gone !Horry Also even thou hes a good rebounder and very good deffensive player but hasnt help us this series at all..Fabricio maybe ..

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    I am saying that despite some good numbers, he's missing way too many important shots.

    And the increase in rebounding can be attributed to him grabbing a lot of his misses!

    You can't tell me that he's left his stamp on on series thus far and he's had maybe 2 vintage Duncan playoff performances so far.

    Everyone on the team needs to be accountable.




    I think that his e in minutes and the extra games that he's had to play has probably exhausted Duncan.
    I think what you are saying changes every time someone points out the flaws in your arguments.

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    I feel Tim has done a superb job on this team. He has dealt with guys not stepping up all playoffs long, and to me Duncan has just as usual been that rock or that engine that just runs things even if it does look broke down.

    Duncan has done a great job really. If Manu or Parker had been consistently playing on his level we'd be in a different mood and conversation right now. So whatever.

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    I think what you are saying changes every time someone points out the flaws in your arguments.
    Where's the flaw?

    All I have is fvcking numbers and common sense to prove what I am saying is right.





    Tim is tired, okay?


    But don't expect me to believe this is one of his better playoffs, when clearly it is not!

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    I am saying that despite some good numbers, he's missing way too many important shots.

    And the increase in rebounding can be attributed to him grabbing a lot of his misses!

    You can't tell me that he's left his stamp on on series thus far and he's had maybe 2 vintage Duncan playoff performances so far.

    Everyone on the team needs to be accountable.




    I think that his e in minutes and the extra games that he's had to play has probably exhausted Duncan.

    screw that. Everyone on the team needs to be accountable? To whom? To you? What have you done to win this team 4 championships? I think Duncan is nearly beyond reproach at this point to everyone except Pop and his teammates. And if I just had to go with the way I remember games, I think you're right that he's missed some "really easy" shots. But he's still the man on this team, and he's playing great. Maybe not the best he's ever played, but still better than most players in the playoffs. And I expect him to carry us tonight because he's a monster.

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    screw that. Everyone on the team needs to be accountable? To whom? To you? What have you done to win this team 4 championships? I think Duncan is nearly beyond reproach at this point to everyone except Pop and his teammates. And if I just had to go with the way I remember games, I think you're right that he's missed some "really easy" shots. But he's still the man on this team, and he's playing great. Maybe not the best he's ever played, but still better than most players in the playoffs. And I expect him to carry us tonight because he's a monster.
    Yawn.

    Yeah, I know Duncan is the best.

    But that does not excuse him from justifiable criticism.

    As a whole, these are probably his worst playoffs by his standards.

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    Worst playoffs only because other teams have focused ALOT of attention on him and forcing him into misses IMO.

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    I don't think he has played like "Sh1t".

    Neither do I think he's shot well. You just can't miss every single bank shot and half of your layups and say a guy's playing well. If Amare shot like that, we'd all be lauging at him. Jumping on GW (unfortunate initials) for pointing this out is immature.

    It looks like TD is having some fatigue problems and some problems being intimidated by the Lakers (and Hornets) length. I believe he is still capable of dominating because of size, strength, and footwork, but he's just not in a shooting groove.

    Offense is a mysterious thing. It comes and goes. Too bad we came up a little small in this series; we easily have a good enough squad to have gone all the way.

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    Yawn.

    Yeah, I know Duncan is the best.

    But that does not excuse him from justifiable criticism.

    As a whole, these are probably his worst playoffs by his standards.
    So what's the point already? By Duncan's standard's it hasn't been his best for reasons pointed out. The attention from defense, he's tired, his team isn't pulling enough weight.

    It's a team game, a team win or loss. Duncan has been more than carrying his share. Why call him out?

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    Yawn.

    Yeah, I know Duncan is the best.

    But that does not excuse him from justifiable criticism.

    As a whole, these are probably his worst playoffs by his standards.
    I guess I just don't see the point of your criticism. It seems useless and annoying at a time when people are trying to get excited for a team that's in a deep hole. I agree with tpark. in the past, when teams have focused this much on tim, he could kick it out and get reliable support from teammates. If i were an opposing coach, I'd double him harder now too, just because the outside shooters aren't proving themselves. I like to appreciate what we've got, not talk it down into the ground and wait for the day that duncan is really ineffective.

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