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    I don´t agree with Manu.

    He was there and he putted his gas and spirit. He just couldn´t help us all he wanted and all we need it.

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    LOL dude called him a midget
    Sequ is a , so whats new.

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    Manu not showing up cost them their legacy.

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    Manu played well in one game, and the Spurs won. Manu played well below average in the other 4, and the Spurs lost. His performances made a huge difference, and if he had played just a bit better in games 1, 4 and 5, the Spurs probably win. Of course, others could've stepped up their game to compensate, but that didn't happen either. It wasn't just one thing, but losing usually leads to good changes, so we'll see what happens this summer.
    Last edited by Borosai; 05-31-2008 at 03:26 PM.

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    It's true nobody knows about Bynum's knee but as far as I know, it's his first knee surgery ever. He didn't have the really serious one microfracture...from what little I understand, it was minor surgery to smooth the bottom of his kneecap. I'm cautiously optimistic and can't wait for the start of next season to see.

    If he bounces back (which 70-80% chance he doesl) he will be a force to be reckoned with.

    Healthy Manu would have made a difference in the number of games (4-1), but I don't think he would have changed the final outcome. The Spurs 3rd/4th quarter problems have been apparent through the season. But of course, that's debateable and understandable if you think he could have won the series.

    And yes, even though we often don't see eye to eye, I respect your opinion as well.
    i respect your analysis, but as a spurs fan im going to have to disagree. manu is our closer to games, as we saw in the suns series, some in the hornets, and previous years, manu raises his game in the clutch. his uncanny ability to drive increases to an elite level. all of those potential game tying/over the hump attempts would have gone in 50% of the time but from i saw, he missed every ing one of those. if manu was healthy, i think we would have pulled out game 1, 4, and maybe even 5 (at least 1 of those forsure). i do agree that your bench out played ours the entire way, and i do want to say that the lakers deserved their victorys because the spurs had there chances.

    as for this article, i couldnt respect manu anymore, for taking responsibility. thats a man right there. initially were all pissed about his performance, but the man was injured and we have to live and die by our superstars. lets not forget all the great memories hes provided us. GL in the Olympics manu and we'll see you next year!

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    Poor Manu.. better luck next time... Cant wait to see him in Black and White next year.

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    So Manu was too hurt to help. What is Tony Parker's excuse?

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    So Manu was too hurt to help. What is Tony Parker's excuse?
    Eva is so demanding my friend, what else

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    The Spurs (read: Tim Duncan) beat a team with a front line of Wallace, Wallace & McDyce so they sure as can beat a team with Gasol and Bynum.

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    Eva is so demanding my friend, what else
    tp was not the reason spurs lost
    get over it
    rebounds and manu
    manu usually helps with the rebounding
    bad breaks and some miss calls
    NOT TP

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    I disagree with Manu, he's just trying to take responsibility like a winner.
    Bench was the reason, and it finally caught up with us.
    In a best case scenario, Manu could have won us some games in the series, but the
    Injuries are part of the game. Others have to step up in Manu's place (or whether it be Tim or Tony's points). Manu still grabbed rebounds, made plays etc. and while he could have still played smarter, we only got one guy to do that in the latter half of the series and that was Barry. (No Udoka, No Oberto, No Finley, No Horry) You at least need one or two more to step up as well.

    Spurs have to be more versatile again, where we can't be exploited for our reliance on the big three's offense. That was almost our doom in the New Orleans series. This year our offense had to compensate for the offense of five players.

    But whatever it's good to hear Manu will be healed up sooner than later.
    And it's cool how he's matured as a compe or from two years ago, he's still pissed, but his expectations and pressure to win it every year aren't too high, where he'll become depressed about it.

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    It is Manu´s fault only ? , i dont see anybody talking about the two spurs MVP, TP and TD , what about them ?

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    It is Manu´s fault only ? , i dont see anybody talking about the two spurs MVP, TP and TD , what about them ?
    what about them
    spurs big three needed to score 60-70
    manu only scored double digits one game out of 5

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    what about them
    spurs big three needed to score 60-70
    manu only scored double digits one game out of 5


    Aren't you tired of posting on every single Manu thread, with the same thing over and over? "It was Manu's fault...blah blah blah...TP was amazing. Not TP's fault at all."

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    Manu has more excuses than a man going to jail.

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    They will be good for the next few years, that's true. And it is bc they have the best player on the planet. What I can't stand is the "AND THEY GET A HEALTHY ANDREW BYNUM BACK!" comments.... Dude had a couple of really good games right before he got injured and now he's the next Tim Duncan.
    Really! But he now has had 2 knee operations and he is only 20. I remember when he got injured he was starting to play really well. The prognosis was for him to be out for 8 weeks and come back by the time the playoffs started IIRC. But then it got delayed and now he is rehabing for next year. Frankly I don't wish him any harm but there is a cloud hanging over him with those knee injuries. How he handles it and if he can regain his confidence is a question only he can answer. We'll see what happens next year but the second coming of TD? I don't think I will ever see that. But if it does happen I hope he is wearing the Silver and Black.

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    Really! But he now has had 2 knee operations and he is only 20. I remember when he got injured he was starting to play really well. The prognosis was for him to be out for 8 weeks and come back by the time the playoffs started IIRC. But then it got delayed and now he is rehabing for next year. Frankly I don't wish him any harm but there is a cloud hanging over him with those knee injuries. How he handles it and if he can regain his confidence is a question only he can answer. We'll see what happens next year but the second coming of TD? I don't think I will ever see that. But if it does happen I hope he is wearing the Silver and Black.
    He doesn't ever need to become anything close to TD for the Lakers to be dominant. If he can give what he was giving right before he went down that is all the Lakers will ever need from him.

    Top flight rebounder
    Great shot blocker
    High FG% (He was leading the league at the time)
    Good hands
    Finish around the rim
    Clean up missed shots, garbage man

    That's it. They Lakers don't need anything else from Bynum to be a great team.

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    Sorry I think you're being more of a hater. Lakers are going to have a very, very big and atheletic front line next year, the likes of which the league hasn't seen in years; Gasol, Bynum, Odom + arguably the best player in the league + an experienced PG + an energetic young bench who can hit the 3 ball + a HOF coach with possibly soon to be 10 rings.

    Don't kid yourself, Lakers are going to be tough in the next couple of years. I'm not saying the Spurs don't have a chance against them or that they are unbeatable, but to downplay their potential and even the team they had this season is kind of silly.

    Even if we had a healthy Ginobili, Spurs had way too many other problems this series for you to say that it could have been 3-2, Spurs could have won, etc.
    +1

    Lakers will be scary good next yr. Gasol will have a yr under his belt and Bynum will only make them better. People he's only 20 and getting better.

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    That being said, it's good to see that Gasol is still soft as Charmin.

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    That being said, it's good to see that Gasol is still soft as Charmin.
    Whats sad is your so called best player faked an injury to get bailed out of his ty WCF performance against a new dynasty.

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    Whats sad is your so called best player faked an injury to get bailed out of his ty WCF performance against a new dynasty.
    Yea, and Bynum faked an injury so that the Lakers could get Gasol and it wouldn't look so shady that they didn't have to give him up in the trade.

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    It's ok guys! Manu will heal up in the offseason and will stop the bleeding!

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    My rough Spanish translation (based on 4 years of Spanish back in HS so take it for what it's worth) :

    Before we embark on our summer vacations, these last 24 hours have made me a little sad mood. I'm depressed. I know that you cannot win it every year, but yes, we believed we could have beaten the Lakers and they are not that much better a team than us. Fundamentally, I believe that this elimination has been different than any other elimination that I've lived through in the NBA. Because I believe it was my fault, that I couldn't/didn't do, everything I know that I could do.
    what happened the last time ginobili took the blame for an early playoff exit?

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