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    Mater of Puppets was also ing badass.

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    But, Cliff was still with them on that one.

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    further proof your opinion is meaningless. that band died when cliff did.
    You're just ing re ed.

    And Justice For All is one of my favorite albums as is Garage Days Revisited.

    The black album was also pretty solid.
    Mater of Puppets was also ing badass.
    But, Cliff was still with them on that one.
    wouldn't my post mean everything BEFORE cliff died was good? also, and justice for all was written way before cliff died. i'm willing to be "One" was the first song you ever heard from them.

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    wouldn't my post mean everything BEFORE cliff died was good? also, and justice for all was written way before cliff died. i'm willing to be "One" was the first song you ever heard from them.
    I corrected myself on the Mater of Puppets.

    And, the first album I heard was Ride The Lighting. For Whom The Bell Tolls was the first song I ever heard.

    But, I still say that And Justice For All is my favorite album. Which was released after Cliff died, with Jason Newsted.

    So, according to you, this album must suck.

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    But, I still say that And Justice For All is my favorite album. Which was released after Cliff died, with Jason Newsted.

    So, according to you, this album must suck.
    also, and justice for all was written way before cliff died.

    i guess you keep coming up with 5 when you put 2 and 2 together.
    plus i dare you to pick out the bass part anywhere on that album, and i'm not talking about the low end coming from the guitars.

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    i guess you keep coming up with 5 when you put 2 and 2 together.
    plus i dare you to pick out the bass part anywhere on that album, and i'm not talking about the low end coming from the guitars.
    Was Cliff alive when Justice was recorded?

    Did he have any part in the recording of that album?

    I'll wait for you answer.

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    Was Cliff alive when Justice was recorded?

    Did he have any part in the recording of that album?

    I'll wait for you answer.
    still coming up with 5, huh?

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    still coming up with 5, huh?
    Still not answering, huh?

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    How can you not like "And Justice for All"?
    Eye of the Beholder, Dyers Eve, Blackened?

    That was a badass album..........but Master of Puppets was better.

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    How can you not like "And Justice for All"?
    Eye of the Beholder, Dyers Eve, Blackened?

    That was a badass album..........but Master of Puppets was better.
    Viva says it's not good because Cliff Burton is not on the album.

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    How can you not like "And Justice for All"?
    Eye of the Beholder, Dyers Eve, Blackened?

    That was a badass album..........but Master of Puppets was better.
    i see you're coming up with 5 as well.

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    Viva says it's not good because Cliff Burton is not on the album.


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    further proof your opinion is meaningless. that band died when cliff did.
    i see you're coming up with 5 as well.

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    Viva says it's not good because Cliff Burton is not on the album.
    If Viva says it, it must be true. You'll never know anyone who knows more about music (all kinds of music) backwards and forwards, inside and out, than he does.

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    If Viva says it, it must be true. You'll never know anyone who knows more about music (all kinds of music) backwards and forwards, inside and out, than he does.
    i don't know eveerything about music, but i know what i know. i know pee wee can't read. it's amazing he's a parent

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    i don't know eveerything about music, but i know what i know. i know pee wee can't read. it's amazing he's a parent
    that band died when cliff did.
    It's not hard to read.

    Justice was made after Cliff died.

    So, using your rationale, Justice isn't any good.

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    When I started to listen to Metallica, first I heard some newer stuff like Ride the Lightning, Creeping Death, Enter Sandman. I like all their old stuff from Kill 'em All, Master of Puppets etc..but I don't understand why their post cliff stuff is supposodely supposed to suck. Black Album, Ride the Lightning, And Justice for all was pretty good. Load/Reload sorta sucked.....only song I liked was Devils Dance and maybe Until it Sleeps. St. Anger album I didn't even listen to it sounded too punkish from the excerpts I've heard. Also Newstead wasn't a bad bass player he was pretty good, but why compare him to cliff they had different playing styles, they were both good, but Cliff was the better composer, although Newstead's My Friend Misery was pretty good IMO. Now that Newstead is gone the band has completely gone to . Trujillo? PUH-lease.

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    i don't know eveerything about music, but i know what i know. i know pee wee can't read. it's amazing he's a parent
    Well Peewee probably can read, but it has nothing to do with him being a parent!

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    .but I don't understand why their post cliff stuff is supposodely supposed to suck. Black Album, Ride the Lightning, And Justice for all was pretty good.
    you too? i posted that ....and justice was written WAY BEFORE cliff died. hence, it was written while he was in the band. i know jason played on it, but he had no influence on that album. there isn't any bass guitar on that album!! i dare anyone to pick it out. lars and james were controlling s and didn't let jason have any influence whatsoever until load and reload. by then they already had a toe tag.

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    Well Peewee probably can read, but it has nothing to do with him being a parent!
    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

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    When I started to listen to Metallica, first I heard some newer stuff like Ride the Lightning, Creeping Death, Enter Sandman. I like all their old stuff from Kill 'em All, Master of Puppets etc..but I don't understand why their post cliff stuff is supposodely supposed to suck. Black Album, Ride the Lightning, And Justice for all was pretty good. Load/Reload sorta sucked.....only song I liked was Devils Dance and maybe Until it Sleeps. St. Anger album I didn't even listen to it sounded too punkish from the excerpts I've heard. Also Newstead wasn't a bad bass player he was pretty good, but why compare him to cliff they had different playing styles, they were both good, but Cliff was the better composer, although Newstead's My Friend Misery was pretty good IMO. Now that Newstead is gone the band has completely gone to . Trujillo? PUH-lease.
    In Viva's ever great estimation, they were just after Cliff died.

    I really like And Justice For All, my favorite album, and I also think the Black Album is also pretty good. Load/Reload were just okay, but St. Anger really sucked.

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    you too? i posted that ....and justice was written WAY BEFORE cliff died. hence, it was written while he was in the band. i know jason played on it, but he had no influence on that album. there isn't any bass guitar on that album!! i dare anyone to pick it out. lars and james were controlling s and didn't let jason have any influence whatsoever until load and reload. by then they already had a toe tag.
    Yeah I know some of the songs on Justice for All were authored by Cliff. The reason there is no bass whatosever was the fact the band felt they needed to be an ass to Newstead to honor Cliff and it was supposed to be a temporary thing to act like an ass to Newstead, but they never stopped, which was incredibly stupid on Lars, Hetfield, and Hammet's part. Later on they were supposdely going to release And Justice for All with bass. LOL

    But I still stand that the band was going good after Cliff died and started to sink after Load and Reload was released. I also liked their Symphony and Metal (SM) album they released.

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    you too? i posted that ....and justice was written WAY BEFORE cliff died. hence, it was written while he was in the band. i know jason played on it, but he had no influence on that album. there isn't any bass guitar on that album!! i dare anyone to pick it out. lars and james were controlling s and didn't let jason have any influence whatsoever until load and reload. by then they already had a toe tag.
    Not it wasn't.

    He died before they recorded and wrote the songs.

    The only song that was influenced by Cliff was "To Live Is To Die", which he was working on before he died.

    Everything else was all Hetfield and Ulrich.

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