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    Really? Cause I could of just swore you were bragging about Jeffersons OUTSTANDING three point shooting..

    I would rather those 2 more ft attempts though.. You have a good point.

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    Let see.. maybe if you actually watched players instead of trying to go by their user rating.. I'm not the one that said Prince creates for his teamates.. is less athletic and relys on that to defend.. has lost a step.. has increased his numbers this year because he is on a worse team.

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    And Jefferson is a better post player.

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    But jefferson does shoot 2 more FTS.. and that's what the spurs want.... Spur fans must be happy.

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    38.4% for Jefferson from the corner 3. 32.7% for Prince at the corner 3. Man, another great shooting spot that is used for the Spurs offense, and it is quite apparent that Prince is not that good at it.

    LOL @ ynh and his re ed brain. He should be looking for the site where I got this stat. What a dumbass.

    Edit: LOL at user rating. It is usage rating. And all those useless comments were just cop outs because he cannot present a legit statement on why Prince is better for the Spurs, which happens to be the premise of the discussion.

    What a dumb .
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    Warriors, Wolves No Longer Discussing Randolph Deal

    The Warriors and Timberwolves are no longer having trade discussions involving forward Anthony Randolph.

    "Not happening," one league source told the San Jose Mercury News. "Dead."

    ESPN.com reported earlier this month that the two teams were in talks about Randolph.

    Golden State is expected to listen to offers for Randolph.

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    big trade idea: Spurs-Raptors-Rockets

    Spurs give:
    Richard Jefferson
    Tiago Splitter
    #20 Pick

    Spurs gets:
    Hedo Turkoglu
    Shane Battier
    #13 pick
    #14 pick

    Raptors give:
    Chris Bosh(s&t)
    Hedo Turkoglu
    Jose Calderon
    #13 pick

    Raptors gets:
    Tiago Splitter
    Aaron Brooks
    Richard Jefferson
    Jordan Hill
    Jared Jeffries

    Rockets give:
    Jared Jeffries
    Shane Battier
    Aaron Brooks
    #14 pick

    Rockets gets:
    Chris Bosh(s&t)
    Jose Calderon
    #20 pick


    Spurs roster after trade:
    Tony Parker/George Hill
    Manu Ginobili/Paul George or Xavier Henry(#13 pick)
    Shane Battier/Hedo Turkoglu
    Tim Duncan/DeJuan Blair
    Antonio McDyess/Hassan Whiteside or Ed Davis(#14 pick)

    Raptors roster after trade:
    Aaron Brooks/Jarrett Jack/Marcus Banks
    DeMar DeRozan/Marco Belinelli
    Richard Jefferson/Sonny Weems
    Andrea Bargnani/Reggie Evans/Jared Jeffries
    Tiago Splitter/Jordan Hill

    Rockets roster after trade:
    Jose Calderon/Kyle Lowry
    Kevin Martin/Chase Budinger/Jermaine Taylor
    Trevor Ariza/Damion James(#20 pick)
    Chris Bosh/Luis Scola
    Ming Yao/David Andersen/Chuck Hayes
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    I want to have nothing to do with Hedo Turkoglu's contract.

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    Adrian Wojnarowski WojYahooNBA

    Warriors have traded Corey Maggette to Bucks for Charlie Bell and Dan Gadzuric, league source confirms.

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    Adrian Wojnarowski WojYahooNBA

    Warriors have traded Corey Maggette to Bucks for Charlie Bell and Dan Gadzuric, league source confirms.
    wow.

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    double wow.
    that's really what they call pure salary dump.
    Bucks now have Maggette AND Delfino. in my books that's one to much of that kind. do they trade Delfino?

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    double wow.
    that's really what they call pure salary dump.
    Bucks now have Maggette AND Delfino. in my books that's one to much of that kind. do they trade Delfino?
    If Delfino is waived before June 30th, the team that holds his contract can pay him 500K and not owe him the other 6.5M remaining on his contract. Interesting trade piece to send to a team looking to create more cap space.

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    double wow.
    that's really what they call pure salary dump.
    Bucks now have Maggette AND Delfino. in my books that's one to much of that kind. do they trade Delfino?
    , one less team who needs to draft a sf...

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    I can't believe the Spurs did not offer RJ for that. Unreal if that was the price. I am not sure how much a Mag for Delfino swap (if Delfino is traded or waived) does for them as Delfino fit well there, but it is still a very good trade because Mag for that price is pretty damn solid.

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    Also, if the rumors of Salmons opting out are true, getting Mags to fill the void is not a bad option at all to remain compe ive. It will be interesting to see Mag on a very, very good defensive team.

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    I wouldn't automatically assume that the Bucks are not going to draft a wing. Redd is damaged goods and will almost certainly be traded by the '11 trade deadline, while Salmons is most likely gone, Stackhouse probably isn't returning either and they gave up Bell in this trade. So right now, they have Maggette and Delfino on the wings, with Mbah a Moute who can play the three (and technically Ilyasova as well, though they use him strictly as a four). Not exactly loaded on the wings.

    Keep in mind, this was not a good three-point shooting team, so don't be surprised if they draft Henry if he falls that far or possibly even Anderson. Granted, they need depth on the front line as well, so don't be surprised if they go with Aldrich if he falls that far or Sanders.

    If I were the Bucks, I'd draft Henry if he's there at 15, shift Delfino primarily back to SG (which is his natural position) and go primarily with a three wing rotation of Maggette, Delfino and Henry.

    The Bucks need quality players and they're not exactly a prime destination for such players. Delfino is far from a star, but he had a solid season and I doubt they'd look to move him.

    As for offering Jefferson for Maggette, I doubt the Spurs wanted to take on the extra two years of Maggette's contract.

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    Yeah, I understand them not wanting to take on the salary, but if they are looking to win now, they have to find a way to upgrade. What they have is not cutting it and we know RJ does not fit.

    But it is hard to know what the true plan is because there is probably a lot of different directions they will go depending on how the draft/fa go.

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    If Delfino is waived before June 30th, the team that holds his contract can pay him 500K and not owe him the other 6.5M remaining on his contract. Interesting trade piece to send to a team looking to create more cap space.
    interesting!
    and now Bucks traded for CDR! (for a 2nd round pick. would be a steal)
    pretty sure that Delfino will be traded, or Bucks will waive him to slim down the payroll. they will likely want to re sign Salmons after he opted out, but don't want to get into lux tax territory.
    Redd (if healthy), Salmons, Maggette, CDR, Mbah, Iljasova is a nice group to cover the wing spots.

    btw. Delfino IS a nice target for the LLE! (don't know if this is enough to get him though)

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    I've done a bit of an about-face with regards to Delfino, as I've never been much of a fan. He just rubbed me the wrong way.

    But I've gotta say, he could be a pretty nice get. He's got a lot of what the Spurs need on the wing (size, athleticism and a 3-point shot), he's got a relationship with Manu and he's a vet that's established himself in the league.

    I'm not advocating that he be the target or that he's the best option, but he could wind up being a pretty good get.

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    I read last year where some people thought Delfino was a prima donna, but when I watched him play this season for Milwaukee he seemed like exactly the opposite of that-- a hard-nosed, tough player. But I can't see him signing for the LLE.

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    I read last year where some people thought Delfino was a prima donna, but when I watched him play this season for Milwaukee he seemed like exactly the opposite of that-- a hard-nosed, tough player. But I can't see him signing for the LLE.
    I think part of it is that he looks like he was made to play a Commodus-type role.



    He just looks like the epitome of Judas.

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    I think part of it is that he looks like he was made to play a Commodus-type role.



    He just looks like the epitome of Judas.
    True... he's a bit heavy on the hair product and looks like he's wearing mascara... could spurstalk accept an aggressive and productive metrosexual?? Or is that asking too much?

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    True... he's a bit heavy on the hair product and looks like he's wearing mascara... could spurstalk accept an aggressive and productive metrosexual?? Or is that asking too much?
    RJ's not exactly known for being masculine so maybe they can hook up?

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    chadfordinsider

    Wolves-Grizzlies talking about an Al Jefferson-Zach Randolph swap http://es.pn/cGniri

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    Mo Williams Begs Not To Be Traded
    Jun 23, 2010 1:31 PM EST

    Mo Williams has been the subject of trade rumors this week, but the point guard wants to remain with the Cavaliers.

    "Pls don't trade me," wrote Williams on his Twitter page. "I'm not ready to go. I'm begging. My work ain't done yet. I'm on both knees....pls. I'm serious."



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