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    My "theory" is you can't expect everyone to read every linked article completely and watch every video. You assumed I already had -- or you didn't. Whatever the case, you certainly seem to relish the opportunity to be pissy about it.
    Is it pissy when you do the exact same things to WC and DarrinS?

    Read the article. Watched the video. It basically did the same thing you could have answered with one word. Thanks for letting us all know just how much your butt hurts because I didn't click a link.


    So my plan worked then. I win.

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    My biggest mistake was thinking for a second you already knew the answer to your question and were trying to troll DarrinS.
    Yep, you ed up and got really pissy about it.

    If I had given you a simple "yes" or "no" you'd never read articles for yourself.
    Sure I would.
    What kind of friend would I be if I didn't help you?
    I don't consider people who whine this much to be friends.

    Sorry. Hope that doesn't upset you more.

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    Is it pissy when you do the exact same things to WC and DarrinS?
    When do they ask me for simple facts that can be answered yes or no?




    So my plan worked then. I win.
    Win what?

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    Israel rejects multinational inquiry into flotilla attack
    UN-proposed commission into flotilla raid is dismissed as global pressure grows for Israel to ease its blockade of Gaza

    Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem
    guardian.co.uk, Sunday 6 June 2010 23.02 BST


    Israel's prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, today dismissed a UN proposal for an international commission to investigate last week's assault on a flotilla of aid ships.

    Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary general, proposed a commission of inquiry headed by the former New Zealand prime minister Geoffrey Palmer, who is an expert in maritime law. The commission would include representatives of Israel, the US and Turkey. All nine activists killed in the operation were Turkish; one held joint US citizenship.

    Ban discussed the plan with Netanyahu, who later briefed party colleagues on the call, saying: "We need to consider the issue carefully and level-headedly while monitoring Israel's national interests."

    Israel would not react or take decisions under the pressure of events, an official who was present at the meeting said.

    Israel's ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, was more explicit: "We are rejecting an international commission. We are discussing with the Obama administration a way in which our inquiry will take place," he said.

    Despite global condemnation of last week's raid and demands for a thorough and impartial investigation and an easing of Israel's blockade on Gaza, there was no discussion of the issues at today's cabinet meeting.

    Important decisions relating to security issues are usually taken by a smaller security council, rather than full Israeli cabinet. However, according to the official, there are no firm plans for the smaller group to meet.

    Israel is also pursuing compromise measures to deflect growing pressure to relax the blockade. Significantly, the US has added its voice to calls for a new policy, with the secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, describing the current siege as "unsustainable".

    Signs of divergent views within the cabinet came from Israel's welfare minister, Isaac Herzog, who called for the siege policy to be reconsidered. "The time has come to do away with the blockade, ease the restrictions on the inhabitants and find another alternative," he said.

    The government claims it has indicated a willingness for greater flexibility in the amount and type of aid it allows into Gaza through land crossings, but insists it will maintain its naval blockade for security reasons.

    "The policy was not static. It was moving anyway [before the flotilla] and we will continue to move," an official said.

    Aid agencies say any relaxation of the blockade has been minimal and the current situation is totally inadequate to meet the needs of the 80% of Gazans dependent on international aid.

    Britain's shadow foreign secretary, David Miliband, described the isolation of Gaza as "a stain on policy right across the Middle East". "I think there have been a series of deadly and self-defeating actions by successive Israeli governments in respect of Gaza," he told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show.

    The UK today announced a £19m donation of aid to Gaza.

    Israel's hard line on future shipping aid convoys could be as tested as early as this week after two organisations pledged to send boats carrying aid to Gaza in the next few days. Reporters Without Borders was attempting to assemble 25 European activists and 50 journalists for a boat leaving Beirut. The Free Palestine Movement was planning a similar operation.

    The Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan – who was the subject of fresh vitriol in the Israeli media today – had raised the idea of personally joining an aid ship to Gaza, according to Lebanese media reports. Turkey last week recalled its ambassador to Israel.

    Israel's foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, today insisted that "it is inconceivable that we should apologise to the Turkish government". He hinted that Turkey was heading in the same direction as Iran, saying Iran had been a "good friend" to Israel in the 1970s. This was echoed by his deputy, Danny Ayalon, who said: "If they sever relations, it is clear they are switching sides in the direction of extremist Islam."

    The 19 passengers and crew who were on board the aid ship the Rachel Corrie when it was forcibly diverted to the Israeli port of Ashdod are due to arrive in Ireland tomorrow after being deported from Israel.

    The Israeli government, still battling for the dominance of its version of events surrounding the flotilla assault, attempted to draw a distinction between the Rachel Corrie and the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish vessel that was the scene of last week's bloodshed. "The entire world saw the difference between a humanitarian flotilla and a hate flotilla by violent, terrorism supporting extremists," Netanyahu told party colleagues.

    The US rock band Pixies cancelled a concert in Tel Aviv in protest at last week's bloodshed. The decision followed similar moves by Klaxons and Gorillaz. Authors Alice Walker and Iain Banks have backed the boycott, with Banks saying his books will not be translated into Hebrew.

    Dockworker unions in Sweden and South Africa have refused to handle Israeli ships, while the UK's Unite union passed a motion to boycott Israeli companies.

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    Israel rejects multinational inquiry into flotilla attack
    UN-proposed commission into flotilla raid is dismissed as global pressure grows for Israel to ease its blockade of Gaza

    Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem
    guardian.co.uk, Sunday 6 June 2010 23.02 BST


    Israel's prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, today dismissed a UN proposal for an international commission to investigate last week's assault on a flotilla of aid ships.

    Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary general, proposed a commission of inquiry headed by the former New Zealand prime minister Geoffrey Palmer, who is an expert in maritime law. The commission would include representatives of Israel, the US and Turkey. All nine activists killed in the operation were Turkish; one held joint US citizenship.

    Ban discussed the plan with Netanyahu, who later briefed party colleagues on the call, saying: "We need to consider the issue carefully and level-headedly while monitoring Israel's national interests."

    Israel would not react or take decisions under the pressure of events, an official who was present at the meeting said.

    Israel's ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, was more explicit: "We are rejecting an international commission. We are discussing with the Obama administration a way in which our inquiry will take place," he said.

    Despite global condemnation of last week's raid and demands for a thorough and impartial investigation and an easing of Israel's blockade on Gaza, there was no discussion of the issues at today's cabinet meeting.

    Important decisions relating to security issues are usually taken by a smaller security council, rather than full Israeli cabinet. However, according to the official, there are no firm plans for the smaller group to meet.

    Israel is also pursuing compromise measures to deflect growing pressure to relax the blockade. Significantly, the US has added its voice to calls for a new policy, with the secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, describing the current siege as "unsustainable".

    Signs of divergent views within the cabinet came from Israel's welfare minister, Isaac Herzog, who called for the siege policy to be reconsidered. "The time has come to do away with the blockade, ease the restrictions on the inhabitants and find another alternative," he said.

    The government claims it has indicated a willingness for greater flexibility in the amount and type of aid it allows into Gaza through land crossings, but insists it will maintain its naval blockade for security reasons.

    "The policy was not static. It was moving anyway [before the flotilla] and we will continue to move," an official said.

    Aid agencies say any relaxation of the blockade has been minimal and the current situation is totally inadequate to meet the needs of the 80% of Gazans dependent on international aid.

    Britain's shadow foreign secretary, David Miliband, described the isolation of Gaza as "a stain on policy right across the Middle East". "I think there have been a series of deadly and self-defeating actions by successive Israeli governments in respect of Gaza," he told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show.

    The UK today announced a £19m donation of aid to Gaza.

    Israel's hard line on future shipping aid convoys could be as tested as early as this week after two organisations pledged to send boats carrying aid to Gaza in the next few days. Reporters Without Borders was attempting to assemble 25 European activists and 50 journalists for a boat leaving Beirut. The Free Palestine Movement was planning a similar operation.

    The Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan – who was the subject of fresh vitriol in the Israeli media today – had raised the idea of personally joining an aid ship to Gaza, according to Lebanese media reports. Turkey last week recalled its ambassador to Israel.

    Israel's foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, today insisted that "it is inconceivable that we should apologise to the Turkish government". He hinted that Turkey was heading in the same direction as Iran, saying Iran had been a "good friend" to Israel in the 1970s. This was echoed by his deputy, Danny Ayalon, who said: "If they sever relations, it is clear they are switching sides in the direction of extremist Islam."

    The 19 passengers and crew who were on board the aid ship the Rachel Corrie when it was forcibly diverted to the Israeli port of Ashdod are due to arrive in Ireland tomorrow after being deported from Israel.

    The Israeli government, still battling for the dominance of its version of events surrounding the flotilla assault, attempted to draw a distinction between the Rachel Corrie and the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish vessel that was the scene of last week's bloodshed. "The entire world saw the difference between a humanitarian flotilla and a hate flotilla by violent, terrorism supporting extremists," Netanyahu told party colleagues.

    The US rock band Pixies cancelled a concert in Tel Aviv in protest at last week's bloodshed. The decision followed similar moves by Klaxons and Gorillaz. Authors Alice Walker and Iain Banks have backed the boycott, with Banks saying his books will not be translated into Hebrew.

    Dockworker unions in Sweden and South Africa have refused to handle Israeli ships, while the UK's Unite union passed a motion to boycott Israeli companies.
    yea we all know why an outside source can't have an investigation, their dumbass propaganda bull would become apparent to the whole world.

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    The US rock band Pixies cancelled a concert in Tel Aviv in protest at last week's bloodshed. The decision followed similar moves by Klaxons and Gorillaz. Authors Alice Walker and Iain Banks have backed the boycott, with Banks saying his books will not be translated into Hebrew.

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    Gaza convoy tapes edited, Israel acknowledges

    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/me...ex.html?hpt=T2

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    sheer propoganda, thats why they won't allow an investigation.

    Its obvious they have something to hide because U.S public opinion matters so much to them, they wouldn't be able to leech off of us if everyone knew what they were doing.

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    Nope. I don't think it makes that much of a difference whether soldiers repel down from a helicopter versus soldiers boarding from a ship.


    Really?

    I mean, really?

    So commandos landing on the roof of your house with fully automatic weapons is the same to you as a couple of soldiers coming up to your door and knocking?

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    We all know soldiers entering the front door will be carrying flowers instead of guns. We also all know boats have front doors.

    I mean reaaaaaaaallllllllly


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    Really?

    I mean, really?

    So commandos landing on the roof of your house with fully automatic weapons is the same to you as a couple of soldiers coming up to your door and knocking?
    I do think it's funny how you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

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    I do think it's funny how you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
    Speak for yourself.

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    Speak for yourself.
    When jack sommerset can see one of the flaws in your analogy, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Here I thought Trainwreck's analogy was bad

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    First of all, this isn't a left vs right thing you gigantic piece of partisan . Its amazing how ing obssesed you are with mouthing off against "the left". Who is "the left" supposed to represent? Anyone that doesn't agree with you?

    Secondly, that first link shows interesting evidence, that should make people think about what actually went on aboard that ship, and how its being protrayed. Too bad it all got muddled up in your partisan bull post .

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    First of all, this isn't a left vs right thing you gigantic piece of partisan . Its amazing how ing obssesed you are with mouthing off against "the left". Who is "the left" supposed to represent? Anyone that doesn't agree with you?

    Secondly, that first link shows interesting evidence, that should make people think about what actually went on aboard that ship, and how its being protrayed. Too bad it all got muddled up in your partisan bull post .
    Whatever. if you say so. i disagree, but that's OK.

    Where are your examples of Reuters editing photo's that supports the right's argument?

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    Whatever. if you say so. i disagree, but that's OK.

    Where are your examples of Reuters editing photo's that supports the right's argument?
    Jesus, who is this right you're referring to?? Israel? You've come to identify yourself so blatantly and for so long as right or left that you can't see any other ing side to it.

    This isn't left vs right politics, unless you're talking about the bull debates that go on in this forum between partisan hacks too intent on throwing dirt on one another to take a real look at the issue.

    Israel has their side of the story, the flotilla passengers have theirs, and the rest of the world wants to know what the really happened. Some people aren't satisfied enough to just take Israel's word for it while other people are all too happy to do it.

    Point is, let the facts speak for themselves and stop with this "the left lies" or "the right lies" bull .

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    Reuters doctored photos to hide "peace activists" weapons

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...tilla-1.294780

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    To tell you the truth, in spite of being really up to here with Israel's way of conducting themselves as if they can do whatever they want and not respond for it to anyone, I'm even more disgusted at Iran's attempt to goad Israel into a war over this... a war they've been looking for forever.

    Somehow, Iran being involved in this makes me doubt Israel all that much less. In fact, I'm starting to believe this whole thing was orchestrated from the beginning. Just humanitarian aid my ass...

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    I can't imagine living in a country smaller than New Jersey and being surrounded by enemies on all sides.

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    I can't imagine living in a country smaller than New Jersey and being surrounded by enemies on all sides.
    It's got to be worse than being a conservative on the Portland metro area.

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    I can't imagine living in a country smaller than New Jersey and being surrounded by enemies on all sides.
    Doesn't mean you get to do whatever the you want and not get called on it. Just saying. Its not a "get out of free" card.

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    When jack sommerset can see one of the flaws in your analogy, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Here I thought Trainwreck's analogy was bad
    I was unaware that analogies must be able to be translated in completely literal terms, instead of serving to illustrate a point.

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    I can't imagine living in a country smaller than New Jersey and being surrounded by enemies on all sides.
    Maybe the UN can craft a new mandate and move Israel over to New York. They already own more than half the city anyways.

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