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    that's where you're wrong!

    Valanciunas or Montiejunas staying overseas and having buyout issues will be perfect for when they need sweetener in order to dump Bonner in summer 2013.
    So generaly it is like giving up dream of Timmy`s 5th. Just get his huge contract expire, play and improve Hill as starting PG, wait for Valanciunas (Montiejunas isnt worth of Parker) and play Hill, Jonas, Tiago, old Manu , old Timmy in 2013, and probably Anderson, Butler and whoever is coming from Kings with theirs pick.

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    Dirty move by the FO if they do that

    Parker has played for the spurs for 10 years, 3 championships, a final MVP etc... Accepted a 12 Mil / year contract not fully guarenteed the last year when every one was widely overpaid in free agency

    And you send him in Sacramento or Toronto before the first game of this contract ?

    I could understand not being loyal but it has to be for a great offer, not to get Cassipi and the 7 pick in a bad draft

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    Dude, he's paid millions to play basketball. They can trade his ass anywhere they want.

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    Dirty move by the FO if they do that

    Parker has played for the spurs for 10 years, 3 championships, a final MVP etc... Accepted a 12 Mil / year contract not fully guarenteed the last year when every one was widely overpaid in free agency

    And you send him in Sacramento or Toronto before the first game of this contract ?

    I could understand not being loyal but it has to be for a great offer, not to get Cassipi and the 7 pick in a bad draft
    It's a business, bruh.

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    Spurs GM RCBuford smartest drafter in NBA. If he wants to trade Tony Parker for No. 5 or 7 pick, great. RC knows something others don't.

    Here is my trade with the Kings: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=6jclxfo

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    Since the Spurs are allegedly shopping Parker and/or Hill for picks, I wonder if this can be a precursor to the problems that may come with a hard cap under a renegotiated CBA. If the Spurs are anticipating a hard cap (or at least one with less flexibility), it may make a lot of sense to deal Parker now and get reasonable value for him than to wait to try to make a deal in the aftermath of a new cap, in a market flooded with higher earners who have to be moved.

    From a basketball standpoint, it would seem to be a no-brainer that it is better to deal Hill for a pick that isn't appreciably lower than the pick you might get in return for Parker -- particularly in this draft. But if there's a longer view of this that touches the next CBA, dealing Parker makes a whole lot of sense.

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    ^ Bingo

    when the Lakers + Spurs are doing similar things, you know something is up

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    He ed a teammate's wife and then threw his other teammates under the bus by telling the media that a 61 win team's le window was closed. I can see why the Spurs would want to ship this piece of out of town.
    You may be trolling, but you're also 100% correct.

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    http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2011/6...value#comments

    Dont know how I came across this but look at all the fools in the message board thinking that Jefferson is still a decent player. Maybe its just us spurs fans that understand hes a gut-less coward. Some of them literally had me cracking up.

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    http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2011/6...value#comments

    Dont know how I came across this but look at all the fools in the message board thinking that Jefferson is still a decent player. Maybe its just us spurs fans that understand hes a gut-less coward. Some of them literally had me cracking up.
    The thing is, I actually think he could still be somewhat productive in a different system. Not $10mil/yr productive, mind you, but a heckuva lot better than he is in the Spurs system.

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    Since the Spurs are allegedly shopping Parker and/or Hill for picks, I wonder if this can be a precursor to the problems that may come with a hard cap under a renegotiated CBA. If the Spurs are anticipating a hard cap (or at least one with less flexibility), it may make a lot of sense to deal Parker now and get reasonable value for him than to wait to try to make a deal in the aftermath of a new cap, in a market flooded with higher earners who have to be moved.
    I don't think it makes that much sense there either. Certainly contracts will be grandfathered in for 2011-12 at least. Then Tim will most likely retire after next year, clearing $21 million off the payroll. Manu becomes a $14 million expiring contract for 2012-13, so he could possibly land a nice young player from a team that needs to get out of a contract. Meanwhile the Spurs will be ok to take back a lousy contract since they'll be in the lottery and tanking for picks, not spending on free agents to win now.

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    Why is nobody talking about Bismack Biyombo? Where is this fellow supposed to go in the draft? He's just what the Spurs need; a strong, defensive beast. He also seems to have a great work ethic and extremely willing to be coached.

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    Why is nobody talking about Bismack Biyombo? Where is this fellow supposed to go in the draft? He's just what the Spurs need; a strong, defensive beast. He also seems to have a great work ethic and extremely willing to be coached.
    You said it. THIS is the kid they should be after. He could be paired with either Duncan or Splitter and would instantly improve their faulty interior defense. There's no question that Biyombo would solidfy the PF position on this team for years to come.

    If the Spurs were to somehow position themselves and then surprise us all by taking this guy, I would be absolutely ecstatic. I"m hopeful that they are secretly targeting this kid.

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    You said it. THIS is the kid they should be after. He could be paired with either Duncan or Splitter and would instantly improve their faulty interior defense. There's no question that Biyombo would solidfy the PF position on this team for years to come.

    If the Spurs were to somehow position themselves and then surprise us all by taking this guy, I would be absolutely ecstatic. I"m hopeful that they are secretly targeting this kid.
    You should hear some interviews with this kid. I'm really impressed by his demeanor. Although, I do think the Spurs need a personality on the team with a little more of an edge, this guy seems like exactly the type of player the Spurs like, in terms of character.

    edit: It also doesn't hurt that he's got a body and athleticism like LeBron James.

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    Tony Parker says he loves Spurs and wants to finish career with franchise. Says quotes of Spurs on downslide false.

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    You should hear some interviews with this kid. I'm really impressed by his demeanor. Although, I do think the Spurs need a personality on the team with a little more of an edge, this guy seems like exactly the type of player the Spurs like, in terms of character.
    I've heard the same thing about him. I watched some additional clips on him today. Besides being a devastating shot-blocker and defender, he's also a better low-post offensive player than people think.

    There is no question in my mind that he could transform this franchise as he is now. With some work and development, he could, quite possibly, become a great player in this league.

    I really hope this will the "rabbit in the hat" that the Spurs are after.

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    I've heard the same thing about him. I watched some additional clips on him today. Besides being a devastating shot-blocker and defender, he's also a better low-post offensive player than people think.

    There is no question in my mind that he could transform this franchise as he is now. With some work and development, he could, quite possibly, become a great player in this league.

    I really hope this will the "rabbit in the hat" that the Spurs are after.
    Right. The only thing that concerns me would be, in trading Parker, it would mean a heavily increased work load on Duncan and Manu offensively. At their advanced ages, I'm not sure that they can do that for an entire season+playoffs. Hill is a very good all-around player, but he isn't great in the pick and roll.

    I would love if they could do a deal with Toronto if Biyombo is still there.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=66may8c

    This gives you a guard that is great in the pick and roll. A guard that would more naturally get Jefferson his touches in places where he's comfortable. It also gives you a former #1 overall pick. A 7' player that can stretch it to the 3 and put it on the floor. His size alone can alter shots defensively. It would give the Spurs a HUGE front line with Duncan/Splitter/Bargnani.

    I'd prefer if they could get Cousins instead, but that's a bit less realistic, in my estimation.

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    Cannot believe Sacramento is legitimately considering taking on Richard Jefferson's awful contract AND giving up the #7 pick. Terrible trade
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    You do everything this summer:
    - Trade Parker for expiring/cap space/prospects/picks.
    - Trade Ginobili for expiring/cap space/prospects/picks.
    - Trade Bonner for expiring contract.
    - Fire Pop and go after a young coach.
    - Let Duncan retire or chase a last ring with a contender.
    - If there is an amnesty rule, use it on RJ. Otherwise keep RJ instead of using assets to dump him.
    LOL @ completely dismantling a 60+ win team that just needs one or two key roster changes/tweaks... makes no sense.

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    LOL @ completely dismantling a 60+ win team that just needs one or two key roster changes/tweaks... makes no sense.
    if you trade parker you start over
    not a hard concept

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    Spurs receive:
    Jason Thompson
    Omri Casspi
    Francisco Garcia
    7th Overall Pick

    Kings Receive:
    Tony Parker
    Richard Jefferson
    29th Overall Pick

    Now something along these lines I would agree to but not Tony for the 7. That makes no sense.
    It would be a great thing for the Spurs to acquire Thompson. I would love this trade.

    But of course Sacramento would be ignorant to do this deal.

    To be done with RJ once and for all and acquire a talented young big and a nice pick would be the best thing for the Spurs to get out of Parker.

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    Oh snap!!!

    In all seriousness the Spurs haven't had a rather large trade in so many years.. I can't honestly remember... it would be about time for a surprise..

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    if you trade parker you start over
    not a hard concept
    Right, because Parker is such an integral piece of the puzzle that can't be replaced.

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    you know it took 2 years for duncan to trust his point guard right
    do you think duncan will trust another point guard right away
    manu will trust him right away to?
    pop will trust him to?
    chemistry takes awhile
    see heat....

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