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    would anyone include green to get her done
    We would have to get some additional compensation. And that compensation would have to be something that helped us right now (ie, not picks). We're damn close without including Green. So to throw him in "just to make the money work" is totally wasting his immense value at this point. And if we add AK47 but lose Green in the process I'm not so sure we got better, but maybe just are treading water. And Green's contract is considerably cheaper than AK's will be...

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    All this could have been avoided by simply getting rid of Matt Bonner before we signed anyone and told Manu this is who we're after you'll just take a little less. Now I fully expect the Spurs to reward Bonner in a loyalty deal next summer. He made 13 over 4 years so we might see a 2 year 13 Million dollar deal.
    The Spurs are NEVER getting rid of Bonner as long as Pop is coach. It's just not going to happen.

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    would anyone include green to get her done
    I wouldn't if that's all we'd be getting. Pop & RC might. The alleged continued interest in keeping Neal doesn't make any sense otherwise.

    Now if you add Ridnour to the deal along with AK, I might have to start thinking about it.

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    Ridnour is a 6'2 PG, Martin is a 6'7 wing - don't see your point
    He's a scoring PG that can slide right over and assume SG duties. He's pretty close to 200 pounds so while undersized he'd still have decent girth in an SG role. He worked pretty well in a similar position in Minny. While it might not be a perfect fit defensively it adds a solid amount of playmaking missed with Harden's departure. Even if he proves to be too much of a defensive liability to play alongside Westbrick and Durant, he'd still be a huge addition to their bench and could offer more than Martin ever could.

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    So in hindsight, is the chances for Andrei to come to SA done now?

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    So in hindsight, is the chances for Andrei to come to SA done now?
    Maybe. No way to know for certain though until either AK signs elsewhere, or Minnesota signs Martin.

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    Maybe Andrei will sign with San Antonio for the minimum because he wants to play for the Spurs that badly?!

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    He's a scoring PG that can slide right over and assume SG duties. He's pretty close to 200 pounds so while undersized he'd still have decent girth in an SG role. He worked pretty well in a similar position in Minny. While it might not be a perfect fit defensively it adds a solid amount of playmaking missed with Harden's departure. Even if he proves to be too much of a defensive liability to play alongside Westbrick and Durant, he'd still be a huge addition to their bench and could offer more than Martin ever could.

    IMHO it would appear that it is although I am hopeful I am wrong.
    Btw, I could have put Leenotinidas (or however you spell it) on my "ignore list" , but sometimes his posts can be very insightful, and those times he doesn't show he's a prick!

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    So in hindsight, is the chances for Andrei to come to SA done now?
    It sounds like there's some wheeling and dealing behind the scenes. The chances of AK47 coming to SA are probably under 10% at this point but there's still some hope.

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    It sounds like there's some wheeling and dealing behind the scenes. The chances of AK47 coming to SA are probably under 10% at this point but there's still some hope.
    Glad to read your optimism, timvp, hope that 10% turns to 100%.
    Oddly, Minn. has yet to renounce him or sign anyone!

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    Until Kirilenko signs with someone else there is always a chance. But it's slight at this point.

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    He's a scoring PG that can slide right over and assume SG duties. He's pretty close to 200 pounds so while undersized he'd still have decent girth in an SG role. He worked pretty well in a similar position in Minny. While it might not be a perfect fit defensively it adds a solid amount of playmaking missed with Harden's departure. Even if he proves to be too much of a defensive liability to play alongside Westbrick and Durant, he'd still be a huge addition to their bench and could offer more than Martin ever could.
    First time Ridnour has ever been described as a "huge addition" & the last time he will ever be discussed as an upgrade over Martin as a wing (despite Martin's flaws).

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    26 pages on the original AK thread, 24 on the pendergraph/glorified AK thread, 17 on this one, and pages upon pages of AK talk on the Manu/Belinelli threads. This needs to happen

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    26 pages on the original AK thread, 24 on the pendergraph/glorified AK thread, 17 on this one, and pages upon pages of AK talk on the Manu/Belinelli threads. This needs to happen
    It's called hunger.

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    First time Ridnour has ever been described as a "huge addition" & the last time he will ever be discussed as an upgrade over Martin as a wing (despite Martin's flaws).
    He isn't a huge addition, neither was Martin. Both are role players but what Ridnour brings to the Thunder is more important than what Martin brought: playmaking. When they gave away Harden OKC lost his ability to create for others. Martin can't do that, while Ridnour can (albeit at a lesser kevel than Harden).

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    And the drama is one of the most intense that I can remember in the Spurs since TD was courted by Orlando.

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    It's impossible to know at that stage if Spurs and Minny are still talking about a Kirilenko S&T. They might have definitively end it yesterday or they might still trying with different S&T scenarios.

    What is sure is that Minny is working on some trades that will allow them to get both Martin and Brewer and that it isn't easy to do. They postponed Martin signing that should have happened today before 9 am and 6 hours after it they still haven't find a way to get both players. They should be talking to a lot of teams of a lot of different trades.

    My guess is that, if Spurs haven't close the door on a Kirilenko S&T, there are still some talks about it. Minny is likely also working on scenario without a Kirilenko S&T like a Ridnour salary dump but, given that they are in a hurry to do a move, they can't just shut down possible options.

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    It's called hunger.

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    It's impossible to know at that stage if Spurs and Minny are still talking about a Kirilenko S&T. They might have definitively end it yesterday or they might still trying with different S&T scenarios.

    What is sure is that Minny is working on some trades that will allow them to get both Martin and Brewer and that it isn't easy to do. They postponed Martin signing that should have happened today before 9 am and 6 hours after it they still haven't find a way to get both players. They should be talking to a lot of teams of a lot of different trades.

    My guess is that, if Spurs haven't close the door on a Kirilenko S&T, there are still some talks about it. Minny is likely also working on scenario without a Kirilenko S&T like a Ridnour salary dump but, given that they are in a hurry to do a move, they can't just shut down possible options.
    Plus we haven't heard from the Spurs FO yet concerning their recent acquisitions either, so I guess there is still some hope.

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    Plus we haven't heard from the Spurs FO yet concerning their recent acquisitions either, so I guess there is still some hope.
    Yep, since they haven't announced anything yet, I think all the pieces are still on the board for the Spurs.

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    he'd still be a huge addition

    He isn't a huge addition.
    Gotcha.

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    Well played, sir.

    I still stand by Ridnour being a better fit in OKC than Martin ever would.

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    26 pages on the original AK thread, 24 on the pendergraph/glorified AK thread, 17 on this one, and pages upon pages of AK talk on the Manu/Belinelli threads. This needs to happen
    916 people are viewing the Spurs forum alone right now. 331 of those people are viewing this thread at this point in time. Don't fret, you're where it's at.

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    Plus we haven't heard from the Spurs FO yet concerning their recent acquisitions either, so I guess there is still some hope.
    It would more hint that Spurs are still considering going under the cap and use some cap space. If Spurs options are just either standing pat or doing a 150%+$100K trade, they don't need to wait to officialy sign Ginobili, Splitter, Belinelli and Pendergraph.

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    Andrei Kirilenko > Michael Jordan, tbh


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