Duncan sounds off on the dress code

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Terrorist continue to kill, yet we have people ing about what they can and cannot wear. People are rioting, looting in our own streets, yet we are concerned if we can, or cannot wear a madellion to work. An INNOCENT CHILD is being molested, raped, and killed. CLOTHES don't seem so important, regardless of the standpoint. Yeah, Stern could have taken other avenues, but he's the boss, that's the bottom line.

Wow. Let's cancel basketball altogether, because nothing is important compared to that. Let's use that argument all the time and stop people from discussing anything at all that isn't of earth-shattering importance.

[easjer]

But getting on and off the bus? Are you kidding? Not being allowed to wear team gear? Huh? Those are the extremes that I'm talking about.

Also, I'm offended that the NBA does nothing about the criminal records or arrests or investigations of their players, but thinks I'll believe they are upstanding folks because they tuck their shirt in and don a sports coat. Please.

In other professional fields (business, education, nursing, law practice and others) when a person has civil or criminal charges pressed against them, they are suspended from work with pay until the investigation is complete, and then further action taken dependent on whatever outcome of the investigation there is. That does not happen in the NBA.

Losing the thugishness on the court and the unappealing behaviour off the court is what will give the NBA a better image, not dressing the thugs up in sports coats.

Just by the by, the debacle that is largely responsible for this? The players in the brawl were all wearing uniforms. So . . . yeah.

[remingtonbo2001]

Is all that stuff gonna magically STOP if the players in the NBA wear suits (or "nice" jeans and sport coats and "dress" shoes, whatever). Will all society's ills be cured if David Stern forces Tim Duncan to tuck in his shirt? If not, that's a lame argument. IMO.

Your missing my point, and honestly, I'm tired of explaining it over and over. Ignorance prevails once again. What I'm saying is that people are ing over a very friviolus rule, which it is, yet I never hear a single word from any player of crucial events taking place in the world. Yeah, you have soft issues, such as cancer, or natrual disasters. These are very nuetral issues. Everyone agrees that cancer, natrual disasters are bad. But what about child molestation, or terriorsim. I have yet, with the exception of David, to hear player comment on hot topic issues such as this. Player's in this league should use their notariotry to bring attention to such causes.

I'm telling you right now, it is required to attend to the press before and after games. Therefore, their still at work. There are many team events that are required outside the court. Your looking at too narrow of a perspective. What a person wears during their free time is fine, but while at work you adhere to the rules. I agree, there would have been better ways to resolve this issue, but it peeves me when someone plays the race card. I wear jeans and only jeans. If they were to ban jeans from my fictional place of employment, would I cry racism? NO. I know a few Cacuasans that wear medallions. My view is plain and simple. We're all AMERICANS. We're not African Americans first, nor hispanics, nor caucasans, we're AMERICANS first. Maybe I find this difficult to understand, because I find racism to obsolutely ridiculous, and think that the term is often misused to manipulate the viewpoint of others. Look, you got two hands, two feet, a mind, a heart, ect. Yeah, so what if your skin complexion is darker. I can go into a tanning booth and lay there for 2 weeks, and you know what, when I come out, I bet I'd have a pretty dark complexion. I just don't get it. I know it exsist, but I don't get it. I don't get hate. I don't understand the purpose.

[angel_luv]

I thought this was well said.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/spo...a/12948502.htm

Allen Iverson:
"Honestly, I really think I will [abide by it]," he said. "Once they start talking about suspending me, then I don't have a choice. I don't want them to take my money, either. I don't want to give my money away; that's just like taking it and burning it. When they talk about suspending me and hurting what we're trying to do as a basketball team, then I don't have [any] choice but to abide by it....
"But I don't think that's going to help the image of the league at all," he said. "If you're going to act like a bleep, they're going to look at them as bleeps, whether they have on a suit or not."

[TDMVPDPOY]

NBA is tryin to be socially responsible, they just wanna protect the brand and image in the community and world wide, look at fifa/FPA in euro for example they make the soccer players wear suites etc, even though there are soccer riots they cant control that, but they can control the players. Its all about being professional and lookin like one. Seriously is 300 hundred bucks goin towards a suite goin to kill you with ur million dollar contract? if you cant afford one get a sponsor with sum fashion designer. These guys can afford to pay fines, medallions, rims, cars, bling bling but cant afford to buy a suite, now thats a laugh. Even the average person or student will save 3-4 months pay to buy a suite, and these guys cant give up a weeks pay cheque just to buy a suite lmao.

Even those sports analysts and commentators, even though they dont swet that much on the sidelines they wear suites 82 games of the season and you dont see them complaining, you dont see refs complaining wearing slack pants n top runnin up n down the courts...it all comes with their employment and whats expected from them.

The nba is tryin to move its image as a hiphop culture to the corporate culture.

[Spurminator]

Nope, it's life. Get over it. They signed a contract. No 1st amendment rights are being infringed upon. It's ING clothing. CLOTHING. Terrorist continue to kill, yet we have people ing about what they can and cannot wear. People are rioting, looting in our own streets, yet we are concerned if we can, or cannot wear a madellion to work. An INNOCENT CHILD is being molested, raped, and killed. CLOTHES don't seem so important, regardless of the standpoint. Yeah, Stern could have taken other avenues, but he's the boss, that's the bottom line.

Keep dodging.

[pache100]

Your missing my point, and honestly, I'm tired of explaining it over and over. Ignorance prevails once again.

I'm not "missing" anything. I just think it's an irrelavent parallel. And I disagree with you. That does not mean I don't get it. Never fear...you never have to explain anything else to me.

You're 100% right about the ignorance.

[pache100]

they can control the players.

BINGO! That's exactly what it is all about. Power and control. We'll see how far they get with that.

[angel_luv]

BINGO! That's exactly what it is all about. Power and control. We'll see how far they get with that.

I am not for the dress code so don't take this to mean that... but isn't it about control for both sides?

[ShoogarBear]

I am not for the dress code so don't take this to mean that... but isn't it about control for both sides?

There's a difference between wanting to have control over yourself and wanting to have control over others.

[Marcus Bryant]

Obviously Tim Duncan is not a team player because he won't wear khakis like middle and corporate America want him to. He obviously is not concerned about the success of the Spurs. He is not the type of player the Spurs need if they are to win a championship. It is time that this malcontent be removed from the Spurs so that true success can be attained.

I hear that Joel Pryzbilla has no problem wearing a 3 piece suit.

[dbreiden83080]

Duncan really needs to check himself here on this issue, he is already getting bad press his comments are all over espn. I would like to get Tim Duncan alone in a room and ask him how he feels he has the right to complain about being asked to dress business casual, due to make more than 15 million this year from the spurs, when people who are making 15,000 are year are told if they do not wear a suit and tie every day to work they are fired. These athletes are so damn privilaged the moment anyone tells them they can't do something they act like their civil rights are being violated. I am a trader on wall street, i sit in front of my computer all day and trade stocks. I do not meet with clients so you would think a suit and tie would not be required, but guess what it is and if i don't do it i would be fired. These guys need to suck it up and deal with it.

[Spurminator]

Um, how about ESPN like I've been saying forever?

Stop acting like it's an insult to your job when rich people have opinions about theirs.

[angel_luv]

There's a difference between wanting to have control over yourself and wanting to have control over others.

Good point! I see that.

Super Smart Silly old Bear! = )

[ShoogarBear]

I hear that Joel Pryzbilla has no problem wearing a 3 piece suit.

That would be a damn good trade, as it would restore a lot of the pride Spurs fans think the team has lost as a result of Duncan's whining.

[nkdlunch]

he is already getting bad press his comments are all over espn.

ESPN also has a show staring Stephen A Smith

[remingtonbo2001]

I was being sarcastic, with regard to ignorace. Although it does prevail far too often in our society. I'm not saying you have no clue of the dress code policy, but rather the point I was making. I tend to use too many words, which usually leads to confusion. Even myself on rare occassions. There are rules and standards set in this society. Yes, it is your right to do whatever the you want to, so long as it causes no physical harm to yourself, or another. I don't know how to explain it. I would have completely agreed with you on all basis, when I was 18 or so. I'm not sure what happened during that time, but I guess I have more respect for the rules placed by an organization. I'm not saying anyone here has more or less, I'm speaking for myself only. Sometimes you just do the right things, you follow the rules. The best way to change something, is to do so from the inside out, not the outside in. I try to aviod placing judgements upon others actions, although will still state my opinion. While I may disagree with Stern the majority of the time, I have no idea what type of person he is. I have never met him. I would be hurt if someone were to say things about me that were not true. This would be a racist issue if the policy stated that "no blacks could wear medallions". But no player, regardless of race, can wear medallions during their time at team events. Every player has to wear a sport coat, regardless of race. Is the rule rediculious....Maybe? But racist, no. Not everyone is trying to take over the world. Sometimes they want the best for their family or business. Such could very well be the case right now. Wouldn't you want to put your business in the best possible situation to suceed.

[MiNuS]

unrelated question:

how is the am reception inside the SBC cntr??I am going on 11/4 vs the Cavs and I want to hear the play by play.

[Spurminator]

This would be a racist issue if the policy stated that "no blacks could wear medallions". But no player, regardless of race, can wear medallions during their time at team events. Every player has to wear a sport coat, regardless of race. Is the rule rediculious....Maybe? But racist, no.

That's so ridiculous. If the NBA banned cornrows, it would apply to white players too, but who do you think they're targeting? It's so transparent.

[ShoogarBear]

called sarcasm, and no no one said it but alot of you are implying it.

I would say none of us are implying anything. We are being very specific about what is racist. The fact that you chose to respond like this implies you can't mount an argument to refute it.

1. ESPN poll..... its ESPN, you read their message boards lately?

And yet, your responses perfectly align with theirs, no? NBA players should have a dress code, players in other sports should not.

2. How often have you seen Pop, RC, Stern, P. Jackson, ect, ect wearing pants around their thighs, throwback jerseys (which I think are cool) and a doo rag when they are on the job? Besides that, Im sure something will be put in their that affects management somehow.

I hope you don't think we're so stupid to see that none of these guys are owners (which was my specific point). I'm still waiting to hear why the rules shouldn't apply to Mark Cuban.

3. WTF does Baseball have to do with the NBA? They are 2 completely seperate en ies.

Already adequately answered by several others. And yet, you still won't answer why there shoulnd't be a dress code for them. Why is that?

Nash has his shirt tucked out, picture doesnt show but I believe he was wearing jeans. Is that when he got the MVP trophy? That was like back in May before any of this crap started so your point is moot.

The point is, if 80% of the NBA players looked like Steve Nash, they would be able to dress like him and you wouldn't say a thing.

[MiNuS]

Hey!



Iverson has already agreed to dress like a

30 y/o and not like a

16y/o punk!

[Spurminator]

This is the dodgiest thread ever....

You can basically sum up the pro-dress-code side with two sentences:

"The dress code is justified because the NBA has the right to impose rules on its employees, who should just shut up and like it because they're paid well. And it's not racist because I say it's not."

[Jimcs50]

MLB players often dress like but we don't see them incurring the wrath of the league for it.





What the ? You receive an award for being the best player in the league and you show up dressed casually?

But it's white casual, not black casual.

Not hard to see what's going on.

Baseball does not have an image problem(outside of steroids) and it is not declining in popularity and ratings like the NBA.

Do you understand that???

[Marcus Bryant]

I don't know what's worse...the NBA ins uting a dress code policy to respond to the thinly veiled racism detected by certain corporate sponsors amongst the prospective NBA fan base or Spurs fans so ready to side with ownership (again) and dump on the franchise's greatest player ever because he wants to wear shorts and sandals before he plays a game wearing shorts and a wifebeater.

[Jimcs50]

This is all Michael Jordans' fault. He had to go and retire and therefore cause a downward spiral in NBA populrity. He should have just stayed in the league, if only just to sit on someones bench.