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    But RC joined him. Toronto was one of the deepest teams in the league and he had Milutinov waiting in the wings, yet RC somehow prized their big soft bum to grab while giving up Green with Fake Injury Kawhi. Add in feces July 1 deals for Mills and Marco and his awful Gasol deal and I have no faith in the Spurs FO anymore. They still draft okay but then you have to wait unknown lunar years for Pop to decide they've paid their dues.
    But it's the best front office in the league

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    Having 1 Belinelli-type is fine, but they have FOUR of them in the rotation..FOUR..in today's NBA, where every good team is athletic and/or long..

    Mills, Forbes and Bertans were already on the roster..why add ANOTHER one of these types?
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    31% from 3 now and still has a Kobe green light

    31%!!!

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    Spurs are only making life harder on themselves by playing Bellinelli and Cunningham so damn much. Sure, the roster sucks, but switch Cunningham and Belinelli's roles with Bertans and White and watch the Spurs improve considerably.

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    Bertans is not starter quality. He gets pushed around and knocked down too much, and he has already been in the concussion protocol, this early in the season. He should play in certain matchups, where the opponent is not too strong and heavy.

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    Belinelli should just be dropped. Eat the contract, wave goodbye, and clear that spot on the bench. He's doing nobody any good.

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    Bertans is not starter quality. He gets pushed around and knocked down too much, and he has already been in the concussion protocol, this early in the season. He should play in certain matchups, where the opponent is not too strong and heavy.
    And Belinelli is stronger?

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    I disagree with your first point. I don't think it makes them true contenders, but it definitely improves the team and helps them get past the first round of the playoffs. That's important to a team who reportedly lost money the past couple of years.
    Forbes is definitely better than Marco. Cheaper too.

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    And Belinelli is stronger?
    Did you reply before you saw what I wrote above? Belinelli is rubbish.

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    STers loves to cannibalize guys when they sense a bit of blood. I wasn't a huge fan of signing Beli (ever, but really this year in conjunction with their other moves), but he doesn't deserve to be harped on like this. He is slumping hard core, but he's also coming off a very strong stint with Philly. No reason to believe he won't turn that around. I also thought the rest of his game was pretty good tonight. With White wanting to take a back seat so often and Mills being limited as a play-maker, the bench can use Beli's BG-ness. I'm not against trading him, especially if there's value to be had. But I'm not dropping him from the rotation if I'm Pop.

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    Did you reply before you saw what I wrote above? Belinelli is rubbish.
    So, if Belinelli can get 25 mpg, why can't Bertans?

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    So, if Belinelli can get 25 mpg, why can't Bertans?
    Bertans deserves it over Belinelli, if that's the question.

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    Marco has been caca.

    He might bounce back at some point from this slump though but he’s so bad in general, lazy looking mofo.

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    STers loves to cannibalize guys when they sense a bit of blood. I wasn't a huge fan of signing Beli (ever, but really this year in conjunction with their other moves), but he doesn't deserve to be harped on like this. He is slumping hard core, but he's also coming off a very strong stint with Philly. No reason to believe he won't turn that around. I also thought the rest of his game was pretty good tonight. With White wanting to take a back seat so often and Mills being limited as a play-maker, the bench can use Beli's BG-ness. I'm not against trading him, especially if there's value to be had. But I'm not dropping him from the rotation if I'm Pop.
    Belinelli's 3pt % is now the lowest of his career. Also, his 2pt % is the lowest of his career. It isn't just that he's missing 3s he used to hit, he's missing everything he used to hit. He is not nearly good enough on defense to merit a spot on that account. Lousy offense, and no defense, leaves him no reason to be here. The reason for thinking he won't turn it around is simple: age. Time for him to retire.

    You want to give him more time? If 1/4 of a season isn't enough to evaluate a 12 year veteran player, then what is? It's enough. And he'd have to suddenly play one uva lot better on O, because again, he's got no D.

    There isn't even any reason to include him in the tank crew. The team can tank just fine while developing a younger player, during the minutes he would be on the court.

    Not enough O. No D at all. Just taking up space that could be used productively to develop a young player.

    Stick a fork in him.

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    Belinelli's 3pt % is now the lowest of his career. Also, his 2pt % is the lowest of his career. It isn't just that he's missing 3s he used to hit, he's missing everything he used to hit. He is not nearly good enough on defense to merit a spot on that account. Lousy offense, and no defense, leaves him no reason to be here. The reason for thinking he won't turn it around is simple: age. Time for him to retire.

    You want to give him more time? If 1/4 of a season isn't enough to evaluate a 12 year veteran player, then what is? It's enough. And he'd have to suddenly play one uva lot better on O, because again, he's got no D.

    There isn't even any reason to include him in the tank crew. The team can tank just fine while developing a younger player, during the minutes he would be on the court.

    Not enough O. No D at all. Just taking up space that could be used productively to develop a young player.

    Stick a fork in him.
    Eloquently put. Good point. We will see what happens when Walker is ready to play.

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    Belinelli's 3pt % is now the lowest of his career. Also, his 2pt % is the lowest of his career. It isn't just that he's missing 3s he used to hit, he's missing everything he used to hit. He is not nearly good enough on defense to merit a spot on that account. Lousy offense, and no defense, leaves him no reason to be here. The reason for thinking he won't turn it around is simple: age. Time for him to retire.

    You want to give him more time? If 1/4 of a season isn't enough to evaluate a 12 year veteran player, then what is? It's enough. And he'd have to suddenly play one uva lot better on O, because again, he's got no D.

    There isn't even any reason to include him in the tank crew. The team can tank just fine while developing a younger player, during the minutes he would be on the court.

    Not enough O. No D at all. Just taking up space that could be used productively to develop a young player.

    Stick a fork in him.
    Yeah, Beli has a whole career of shooting well. 20 games doesn't determine anything. Moreover, he has a net rating of about zero (which is fine when you consider the rest of the team), and his net ratings with the bench unit are still really high. I get the intuition that since Beli is a bad defender, he hurts the team unless he scores. But it's not exactly true. The Aldridge, DeRozan, Belinelli trio has actually done well this year (much better than DMDR and LMA alone). Yes, dude should be hitting shots, but because he's moving without the ball, because he's not selfish and because he is willing to take shots that are there, the other scorers get better looks when he's on the court. If he actually did shoot well, the team would be insane with him on the court, like it was early in the season when he was the on/off leader by like an order of magnitude.

    Shooters can slump. Mills did it. Green did it. He'll come out of it. Even if he doesn't, the team isn't having more success benching him unless they bring in other players (or hopefully Walker gets healthy).

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    great signing, tbh, full of culture

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    He looks like young Stallone, so Im ok now.

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    I understand wanting shooting, but how can you have FOUR of these guys in the rotation? Anything more than 2 is pushing it, honestly..

    If you're going to keep Forbes and Bertans, why add Marco? If you don't want to keep Anderson and shopped Green, why not look for a competent defender rather than arguably the worst in the league in Belinelli? If Murray was healthy, White wouldn't even be playing right now IMO, while Mills and Beli would be getting minutes..
    I think the Kawhi drama traumatized Pop so bad he just wants to have some familiar faces around from the 2014 le winning team for his final two years as coach. It's no coincidence that the duration of Marco's contract mirrors Pop's. This is also why Mills will not be traded(even more obvious after's Pop's recent praise for his leadership abilities). Pop needs those loyal "Spurs culture" players on the roster until 2020 in order to enforce his military style discipline on the rest of the team.
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    Beli sucks

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    He looks like young Stallone, so Im ok now.
    good point

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    The guy won a 3 point contest with us, now I don’t trust him to shoot a wide open 3.

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    I think the Kawhi drama traumatized Pop so bad he just wants to have some familiar faces around from the 2014 le winning team for his final two years as coach. It's no coincidence that the duration of Marco's contract mirrors Pop's. This is also why Mills will not be traded(even more obvious after's Pop's recent praise for his leadership abilities). Pop needs those loyal "Spurs culture" players on the roster until 2020 in order to enforce his military style discipline on the rest of the team.
    not a bad theory..

    Such a piece of trash signing..disgusting..there wasn't even a loyalty factor either, he didn't contribute anything to the le..

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    One of the worst re-signings of all time.

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    One of the worst re-signings of all time.
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