Wemby ROTY watch

[Frenchfred]

Pippen is a wildly underrated player IMO, and SGA isn't Prime Wade just yet. Scottie never was the same after his back injury in 98 and because of that people forget how amazing he was before then.

Don't get me wrong, I love Wemby and I'm glad that he is a Spurs and he is better than Chet. SGA has similar if not better stats than prime Wade but I agree we have to see if he can do it more than a third of a season.

Let's hope that the Spurs can surround Wemby with a player similar to SGA, I don't think that Vassel is that guy and he is already making a lot of money. I'd love a disgruntled Doncic playing with Wemby

[baseline bum]

Don't get me wrong, I love Wemby and I'm glad that he is a Spurs and he is better than Chet. SGA has similar if not better stats than prime Wade but I agree we have to see if he can do it more than a third of a season.

Let's hope that the Spurs can surround Wemby with a player similar to SGA, I don't think that Vassel is that guy and he is already making a lot of money. I'd love a disgruntled Doncic playing with Wemby

Prime Wade played in a slow down grind it out era where you could legally play defense against guards.

[MultiTroll]

Minutes restriction might cost him ROY in the end.

But his per minute stats have been great the last 5 games.

[DAF86]

Chet has more potential than Bosh, Bosh was never a good three point shooter or good shot blocker. 2008-2009 Wade is a good comparison with SGA so I'd take Wade at his peak + young Scottie Pippen over a young Lebron James

This isn't a "peak" vs "young" debate. Of course a team with SGA and Chet now would be better than a team with only Wemby. But that's not the question here, the question is "would you rather have Chet and SGA going forward, or just Wemby?"

Everybody in their right mind would pick the once in a generation unicorn and then we will see who we partner him with.

P/S 1: Bosh proved to be a #1 option on the NBA and a championship level #3. We will see if Chet ever accomplishes that, tbh.

P/S 2: You are crazy if you are taking two top 30 ish guys of all-time over the 2nd or 3rd GOAT.

[TDMVPDPOY]

When was the last time a kid led all rookies in ppg, rbds, blks, stls and didn't win ROY? Did it ever happen?

everybody knows melo was robbed of roy by lekang

[Frenchfred]

This isn't a "peak" vs "young" debate. Of course a team with SGA and Chet now would be better than a team with only Wemby. But that's not the question here, the question is "would you rather have Chet and SGA going forward, or just Wemby?"

Everybody in their right mind would pick the once in a generation unicorn and then we will see who we partner him with.

P/S 1: Bosh proved to be a #1 option on the NBA and a championship level #3. We will see if Chet ever accomplishes that, tbh.

P/S 2: You are crazy if you are taking two top 30 ish guys of all-time over the 2nd or 3rd GOAT.

I disagree. You are assuming that Wemby will have the same career as Lebron, he has the potential but nothing is guaranteed. A small market like San Antonio that has NEVER attracted superstars will have a hard time attracting somebody the same level as SGA, 30/6/6/2 don't fall from trees. So, we are hoping that the draft is going to bring us another Parker AND Manu.

PS2: if you assume that Wemby will have the same level as Lebron then I can assume that Chet will have the same as Durant and yes I would trade take Wade and Durant in their prime versus Lebron in his because San Antonio would never attract a second star.

[DAF86]

I disagree. You are assuming that Wemby will have the same career as Lebron, he has the potential but nothing is guaranteed. A small market like San Antonio that has NEVER attracted superstars will have a hard time attracting somebody the same level as SGA, 30/6/6/2 don't fall from trees. So, we are hoping that the draft is going to bring us another Parker AND Manu.

PS2: if you assume that Wemby will have the same level as Lebron then I can assume that Chet will have the same as Durant and yes I would trade take Wade and Durant in their prime versus Lebron in his because San Antonio would never attract a second star.

If you had to take a wild guess, who do you think will end up being the better player out of Wemby, SGA and Chet?

[ambchang]

The only package I would even consider trading wemby now is jokic and Murray. And that’s a huge maybe because the rest of the spurs suck so bad they ain’t winning squat with those two. With wemby you have a bigger window retooling around him.

Trading wemby for sga and Chet is irresponsible. Nobody trades a generational talent in his rookie year. They may end up like Lebron, jordan, hakeem, duncan, robinson, magic or bird and some of those you would definitely trade for a sga plus Chet, but you never know.

[SpursFan86]

Future potential shouldn’t really play into ROTY discussions…

Look, I’m as impressed by Wemby as the next guy but I think it’s hard to say it’s a no-brainer or non-discussion at this point. Both players have been incredibly impactful as rookies. Wemby undoubtedly has less surrounding help and has to shoulder more of the offensive burden, while there’s no argument that Chet hasn’t been far more efficient than Victor. Chet’s 21.5 points per 36 on 66% TS vs. Victor’s 24 points per 36 on 54% TS isn’t just something you can wave away.

All this being said, I’m obviously biased but I lean Victor. I’ll go with the guy who is clearly the focal point of opposing teams each night and it’s hard to argue that, if their roles were reversed, Chet would be displaying the same level of ultra-efficiency. Hopefully Victor can shed this damn minutes restriction BS and start putting up some truly crazy numbers when he goes back to playing 30+ mpg.

Last thing: personally think it’s kind of bull to give a guy ROTY who was in the league last year. Just because he didn’t play doesn’t mean he didn’t benefit from a full year of being exposed to NBA coaching, training staff, etc. Not gonna say it’s a “fraud” if he wins but if two guys are close I’m definitely going to default to the guy who just got drafted this year.

[Russ]

Wemby's got the national buzz --- he'll very likely be ROTY.

[Pauleta14]

Wemby's got the national buzz --- he'll very likely be ROTY.

Wemby would win the popular vote by the fans but not from the ppl who vote right now at least.

most NBA analysts have a man crush on Chet bc of their passion for analytics as opposed to the eye test/common sense

[Frenchfred]

If you had to take a wild guess, who do you think will end up being the better player out of Wemby, SGA and Chet?

Wemby. What superstar, same level as SGA, will the Spurs be able to bring through trade to play with Wemby?

[tonight...you]

If you watch both Chet and Wemby in games you immediately notice the difference.
The amount of respect teams give on O to Wemby.
The insane amount of near game-breaking fear teams show when he's in on D.

Chet is awesome and worthy of accolades. He's also about 2 years older and has been in an NBA program for a year.

Just think of Wemby even 1 year from now. Holy crap.

[Frenchfred]

The Thunders with a 60-point lead on the Blazers. OKC is on the same time period as the Spurs, maybe 2 years ahead, the rivalry between the two could be interesting if the Spurs can construct a nice team around Wemby.

[SpursBills]

Front office better get its ass in gear. Otherwise Wemby vs Chet is going to look a lot like the Gen Z version of Wilt vs Russell: One guy playing with a bunch of scrubs doing generational things that nobody's ever seen before losing over and over to a clearly worse guy at the same position playing with a stacked team.

[spursparker9]

I think the next few games against OKC will be the statement game. If Wemby can outperform Chet directly against him in a game then it will help his case for ROY.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

it's gonbe wemby. these chet talk is just media trying to make the narrative interesting

*yawn*

[Arcadian]

Do you guys feel like Victor has achieved mainstream popularity the way Lebron and Yao Ming did as rookies? Or is being in San Antonio limiting his popularity?

I recall there being a close race for ROTY between Lebron and Carmelo for similar reasons. Carmelo was on a better team and seemed more experienced after one year of college, but eventually Lebron separated himself. It wasn't until year 2 or 3 that it became clear Lebron was on another level.

[exstatic]

Wemby would win the popular vote by the fans but not from the ppl who vote right now at least.

most NBA analysts have a man crush on Chet bc of their passion for analytics as opposed to the eye test/common sense

You give them too much credit. Most NBA analysts are as dumb as a bag of hair. Like boxing, basketball media are always looking for the next Great White Hope.

[DAF86]

Wemby. What superstar, same level as SGA, will the Spurs be able to bring through trade to play with Wemby?

We don't need to bring a superstar the same level as SGA, we already have Wemby, who, in theory, would be better. We just need an all-star level PG.

So yeah, that's why you pick Wemby over SGA and Chet 100% of the time. Always go with the best player available, in basketball: 1+4 > 2+3.

[spurraider21]

Do you guys feel like Victor has achieved mainstream popularity the way Lebron and Yao Ming did as rookies? Or is being in San Antonio limiting his popularity?

I recall there being a close race for ROTY between Lebron and Carmelo for similar reasons. Carmelo was on a better team and seemed more experienced after one year of college, but eventually Lebron separated himself. It wasn't until year 2 or 3 that it became clear Lebron was on another level.

its going to be hard to reach those levels. when those guys became megastars, yes the internet was already a thing, but people still watched sportscenter and such to get their sports intake, and those programs would constantly promote specific stars.

now everybody is on twitter and can get exposure to whatever player/team they want. the league has less control over it now imo

[Knoxxx]

Speaking of all stars, I think I eyeballed Wemby at about #14 in the fan voting and Chet another spot or two lower. I factored out Morant who obviously won’t be playing. Looks to me like both “rookies” are odd men out for the main ASG this season. The only wild card is Wemby leading the league on blocks, that could strengthen his case.

[Pauleta14]

You give them too much credit. Most NBA analysts are as dumb as a bag of hair. Like boxing, basketball media are always looking for the next Great White Hope.

Aren’t they the one who vote for ROTY?

[Frenchfred]

We don't need to bring a superstar the same level as SGA, we already have Wemby, who, in theory, would be better. We just need an all-star level PG.

So yeah, that's why you pick Wemby over SGA and Chet 100% of the time. Always go with the best player available, in basketball: 1+4 > 2+3.

who is this all-star PG coming to San Antonio?

[KobesAchilles]

who is this all-star PG coming to San Antonio?

We already have one in Sochan. I was told all offseason and the beginning of the season that Sochan was our starting point guard of the future. And people yelled to the rafters about how I was overreacting by saying we shouldn’t have him there. But according to all the sniffers I have to wait 3 years to see him develop. So I don’t wanna hear about replacing him as a PG.

Sochan IS our point guard of the future. Just give him time