WTC Steel Beams Found

[=RTM=]

Who says it? Actual airline pilots? Folks with the flight path trcked on radar?

Radar paths are recorded on discs, They show the path of the airline 2 mintues prior to it hitting the pentagon. If you doubt their records you need to take that up with them and Norad.

For example, when the Pope is chosen the cardinals explode some Thermite in their fireplace since that's the only way to make white smoke. Now the Vatican is in on 9/11!

If I knew you were going to use comedy in your 9/11 assessment I would have not took the time to reply in the first place. I don't take 9/11 and the lives lost as punch line like you and your side kick friend johnsmith and I would appreciated you not do it any further, show some respect for the lives lost that day.

[ChumpDumper]

The Bomb sniffing dogs were implemented after the first attack on the WTC as common procedure.

How common?

Every day since the first attack?

My point was they were asked to not have them two weeks prior to the 9/11 attack. If you did your homework you would know that already.

I did already know that. There was a bomb threat that they checked out that proved to be false. And of course, any controlled demolition of the three WTC towers would have required months of planning and setup, not two weeks -- and the dogs and bomb squads were there every other day leading up to those two weeks, right? Now your homework is to find anything that says bomb-sniffing dogs were a permanent fixture required to search the building every day in both towers for eight years after the basement bombing, which will prove you to be both right and wrong.

[=RTM=]

How common?

Every day since the first attack?I did already know that. There was a bomb threat that they checked out that proved to be false. And of course, any controlled demolition of the three WTC towers would have required months of planning and setup, not two weeks -- and the dogs and bomb squads were there every other day leading up to those two weeks, right? Now your homework is to find anything that says bomb-sniffing dogs were a permanent fixture required to search the building every day in both towers for eight years after the basement bombing, which will prove you to be both right and wrong.

If you think it takes weeks of planing to take down a building then your head is further up your ass than I previous expected. all you need is an angry red neck,5 hours and a Ryder truck full of Fertilizer or did you forget about that Other Government building that was bombed? Certain floors of the WTC were off limits to even the maintenance crew and in fact one floor had no elevator access.
A week before the WTC attack the power along with the security cameras were turned off. I supposed you have some sort of explanation for that
that also involves the Pope.

You grasping at straws and I have to start breakfast. Get back to me when you have done some more Goggling and your ready to be proven wrong again.

[ChumpDumper]

If you think it takes weeks of planing to take down a building then your head is further up your ass than I previous expected. all you need is an angry red neck,5 hours and a Ryder truck full of Fertilizer or did you forget about that Other Government building that was bombed?

Not a controlled demolition. If you are saying there was a Ryder truck seventy floors up in one of the towers, I really want to hear that theory.

Certain floors of the WTC were off limits to even the maintenance crew

Not according to the guy in the movie you told me to watch -- he just said he was afraid. Why are you lying about the movie you told me to watch?

A week before the WTC attack the power along with the security cameras were turned off.

That was one guy talking about one office in one tower, and there was wiring work scheduled. Why is he the only one? If ALL the cameras and ALL the electricity was turned off to ALL the big money tenants who occupied 90% of the WTC, wouldn't we have heard from them? If every blown-out window is a demolition squib, then we know exactly where they were placed and the Loose Change guys can interview everyone who worked on those floors. Why haven't they done that?

You grasping at straws

I'm still waiting for your proof that bomb-sniffing dogs worked in both towers every day for eight years. Surely the Loose Change guys were all over that one.

[ChumpDumper]

Hey, turns out there was a full time bomb sniffing dog that wasn't pulled from duty before 9/11!

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/ame...eroes/lim.html

And he worked in the parking garage. So now you need a theory about how all that Thermite got past the dog that was there. Good luck!

[1369]

Do you not see the run off from melted steel? Have you ever seen Thermite in person? I have back in 1981 at Ft. Bragg NC we used it to penetrate Russian tanks in a weapons demonstration for the Secretary of defense, That burned for 3 weeks. And we watered it 24 / 7

*cough*majortrollbull *cough*

[johnsmith]

I don't take 9/11 and the lives lost as punch line like you and your side kick friend johnsmith and I would appreciated you not do it any further, show some respect for the lives lost that day.

Gosh, you really took it hard when I pointed out what a waste of a human being you are and how you are clearly not a very funny comedian or you wouldn't have to spend so much time on this site.

I mean, I wasn't here for four pages of this thread and you're still mentioning me. Get over it ya damn burnt out 80's hipster bag.

[01Snake]

Chump FTW

[Crookshanks]

You know Chump, you've posted some things in other threads that annoyed me greatly; but I have to say that I really admire your tenacity in this thread! I've really enjoyed reading your comments and seeing you knock the props out from under mouse and others time and time again!

Now, a question for all those who believe in this 9/11 conspiracy - Let's say all the cir stances, facts, and evidence are EXACTLY the same, but the President is named Al Gore instead of George W. Bush - do you still believe the government is so evil that it would conspire to cause 9/11?

[clambake]

I think he's trying to sell you a load he wouldn't buy himself.

Me thinks he duth protest too much.

[Extra Stout]

You know Chump, you've posted some things in other threads that annoyed me greatly; but I have to say that I really admire your tenacity in this thread! I've really enjoyed reading your comments and seeing you knock the props out from under mouse and others time and time again!

Now, a question for all those who believe in this 9/11 conspiracy - Let's say all the cir stances, facts, and evidence are EXACTLY the same, but the President is named Al Gore instead of George W. Bush - do you still believe the government is so evil that it would conspire to cause 9/11?

How do we know Al Gore ISN'T involved in the conspiracy? His father knew something about Operation Northwoods

[cornbread]

Do you know how many steel beams were in the WTC? You must remember this was not some hotel in Vegas that was being demolished this was a building that they had to go in their undetected, did you not see the part of the film where the maintenance man said they closed off parts of the WTC and he was not allowed to enter? Did you not see the part where they stop using bomb sniffing dogs two weeks before the attack? What are you looking for a sign that reads Joe blow demolition construction site was here? Do you need to see DNA to know Jesus was here?

It's obvious your set in your ways so I will file you under the Chump Dumper head in the sand crowd.

You know what man, I just pointed out one detail that could raise a question. But you want me to take your evidence as gospel because you're a guy on the internet who claims to have worked at Ft. Bragg back in '81. Excuse me for thinking about things before subscribing to them. I point out one detail about a piece of evidence and you insult me. Well you man. I'll get my information elsewhere from people who are mature enough to have a conversation. I don't have time to deal with arrogant assholes like you.

You're the reason why people don't take your "movement" seriously.

Welcome to my ignore list.

[mookie2001]

chump why wont you answer my question


who

officially

indentified

the

911

hijackers?

[ChumpDumper]

The

F

B

I.

And if you're saying they didn't get a DNA match -- how could they? Their families weren't exaclty stepping forward to provide control samples.

[mookie2001]

link?, they dont even have their real names, real DOBs, and if you go by the FBIs IDs then 7 to 9 of them are still alive

[Extra Stout]

link?, they dont even have their real names, real DOBs, and if you go by the FBIs IDs then 7 to 9 of them are still alive

And living happily in Cleveland, apparently. I hear Mohammed Atta is a fixture at Cavs games.

[ChumpDumper]

if you go by the FBIs IDs then 7 to 9 of them are still alive

Thoroughly disproven. If you Google my name, you get a children's book author -- and my name isn't all that common. Yes, from Morrocco to Iraq, there are a few Arabs that have the same name. I'd believe Loose Change more if they bothered to follow the FBI's work after the month of September 2001 -- but that's just another thing they can't be bring themselves to do while they are busy showing up at movie premieres and selling T-shirts.

[Extra Stout]

Thoroughly disproven. If you Google my name, you get a children's book author --

False. I found no children's book author named ChumpDumper. You are involved in the coverup.

[ChumpDumper]

[mookie2001]

still cant confirm their real names or dates of birth. which is what we would call identification

[Extra Stout]

still cant confirm their real names or dates of birth. which is what we would call identification

So we can't find these people, but even if they could, it's unlikley they could fly planes so well, but you know who IS a trained pilot? A trained fighter pilot?

George W. Bush

QED.

[ChumpDumper]

Too bad we couldn't interrogate the tiny charred bits of them at Gitmo.

[mookie2001]

weak, no one said anything about Bush

[Extra Stout]

Too bad we couldn't interrogate the tiny charred bits of them at Gitmo.

Pfffft. Sure we could. Ever heard of Jack Bauer?

[ChumpDumper]

Look, every one of these so-called investigative do entaries have such huge, unforgiveably awful lies and willful fabrications in them it's obvious they are not interested in anything resembling truth. They don't pass the smell test -- they don't pass any test of credibility at all and anyone trying to pass their farces of investigations off as serious are too lazy to execute the few mouse clicks necessary to completely destroy their lies.

It's a goddam waste of time and a distraction from the real issues that we have been facing and will continue to face in this decade.