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    Don't you believe in the vast worldwide conspiracy that's out to get us?

    Ya know, Al Qaida.
    That's well known facts. Not an unproven conspiracy.

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    You're making this up, right?

    The pancake theory has been abandoned a long time ago.
    Abandoned by whom?

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    Oh, stop. We were briefed on the plan when we joined the plot back in the 1990's, when PNAC recruited us. By the United States military, silly! And it's not a conspiracy, because the whole government was in on it. Fully 100 million Americans, roughly the entire hawkish right wing, are in on it. I'm the first one to come clean. I am wondering how I've gone several hours without being shot yet, since the government has been able to neutralize every single other person who's thought about blabbing.



    Stop playing dumb. WTC 7 was the command center for the military operation. After the second tower was hit, the officers evacuated. WTC 7 was supposed to collapse when debris from the adjacent tower fell on it.
    Remember when it didn't because there was a loose wire from the detonator, and we were all "o crap, those smart libertarians are gonna figure this out lol" ? So the media had to get spinning fast, and they came up with the "there are creaking noises it's gonna fall soon." But then they screwed it up, and reported that it fell already. Finally Tom got the wires fixed, but we were all "there's no way anyone will buy it it'll look just like a planned demolition." And sure enough the libertarians figured it out, and now we've had to spend 6 1/2 years fighting them on the internets.
    You're on thin ice ES... won't be happy when he gets back.

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    Abandoned by whom?
    Abandoned by NIST.

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    How can gravity throw a huge chunk over 355 feet horizontally?

    Are you not aware that gravity works up and down?
    Are you aware that the huge sections that broke off had a great deal of surface area and relatively flat? It is very easy within known physics for them to have caught the air, and glided at an angle.

    Oh wait...

    Some of the video footage even shows this happening!

    I'll bet those clips are on the cut floor of the producers of things like "loose change."

    Besides, other buildings besides 7 were hit by debris. Thing is, one or more of those huge slabs took out some ob 7's structural support.

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    Besides, other buildings besides 7 were hit by debris.
    And the detonation charges in all of them went off as planned. But not 7. Even so, we would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling libertarians!

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    "or wrongful"

    Thanks for playing.
    who says 9/11 was wrongful? That's your opinion. I think the sacrifice of 3000 lives is a small price to pay for us to secure our oil for the next generation. Presidents are elected to make big decisions and you can't always please everyone. You must act for the collective good.

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    who says 9/11 was wrongful? That's your opinion. I think the sacrifice of 3000 lives is a small price to pay for us to secure our oil for the next generation. Presidents are elected to make big decisions and you can't always please everyone. You must act for the collective good.
    So your opinion is the claimed 9/11 false flag operation was a good and desirable thing.

    Then why are you even posting about it?

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    who says 9/11 was wrongful? That's your opinion. I think the sacrifice of 3000 lives is a small price to pay for us to secure our oil for the next generation. Presidents are elected to make big decisions and you can't always please everyone. You must act for the collective good.
    OMG man...

    That would be a very idiotic reason. It has not secured any oil for us. Even as dumb as you guys like to make president Bush out to be, he isn't that dumb.

    Oil is a world commodity. The only way such a thing would matter is if we could control a significant share of it. Not just add control over a small region. We would need control over far more than our own consumption to make a difference.

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    So your opinion is the claimed 9/11 false flag operation was a good and desirable thing.

    Then why are you even posting about it?
    Of course 9/11 was good. If not for 9/11, we would not have a giant embassy in Bagdad, protecting our oil.

    We would not have 14 military bases in the region of the Caspian Sea, protecting more of our oil, and outflanking the Chinese.

    We would not have a puppet government in Afghanistan, protecting our oil piplines.

    We would not have a puppet governemt in Iraq, protecting our oil for the next generation.

    We would not have the Patriot Act which protects us from criminals.

    We would not have the Military Commissions Act, which allows us to get tough and suspend Habeas Corpus.

    We would not have popular support for torturing criminals so we can get info from them.

    Why are you so reluctant to credit Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld for a job well done? They've taken a lot of flack, you know. 9/11 could have killed 50,000 people or more. But thanks to the great mercy of ours leaders, the first plane hit way up on the 95th floor, not down lower. A hit on the 50th floor would have trapped 50,000 people.

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    OMG man...

    That would be a very idiotic reason. It has not secured any oil for us. Even as dumb as you guys like to make president Bush out to be, he isn't that dumb.

    Oil is a world commodity. The only way such a thing would matter is if we could control a significant share of it. Not just add control over a small region. We would need control over far more than our own consumption to make a difference.
    are you a liberal or a crazy Ron Paul supporter?

    We get a much better price for oil, when we have military bases near by. The big guns and tanks help us in our bargaining power.

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    Of course 9/11 was good. If not for 9/11, we would not have a giant embassy in Bagdad, protecting our oil.

    We would not have 14 military bases in the region of the Caspian Sea, protecting more of our oil, and outflanking the Chinese.

    We would not have a puppet government in Afghanistan, protecting our oil piplines.

    We would not have a puppet governemt in Iraq, protecting our oil for the next generation.

    We would not have the Patriot Act which protects us from criminals.

    We would not have the Military Commissions Act, which allows us to get tough and suspend Habeas Corpus.

    We would not have popular support for torturing criminals so we can get info from them.

    Why are you so reluctant to credit Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld for a job well done? They've taken a lot of flack, you know. 9/11 could have killed 50,000 people or more. But thanks to the great mercy of ours leaders, the first plane hit way up on the 95th floor, not down lower. A hit on the 50th floor would have trapped 50,000 people.
    So you are saying Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld planned 9/11.

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    So you are saying Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld planned 9/11.
    are you talking about at the tactical, operational, or strategic level?

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    are you talking about at the tactical, operational, or strategic level?
    Any level.

    You claim Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld planned 9/11.

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    are you a liberal or a crazy Ron Paul supporter?
    LOL... Isn't it people who fall into that catagory those who are more likely to believe in conspiracies?

    I like many of Paul's views, but I do not support him. I never did. Liberal... No ing way. I am for small government, reducing regulations, and increasing freedom. That places me as a conservative libertarian.... or a cons utionalist!

    We get a much better price for oil, when we have military bases near by. The big guns and tanks help us in our bargaining power.
    Sure, I can agree that maybe it helps to a small percentage. I see no results, do you? It is still a commodity traded world wide. To make any worthwhile difference, we would have to stop it from being a world traded commodity!
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 03-14-2008 at 07:41 PM. Reason: clarifying. Changed "freedom" to "increasing freedom"

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    Any level.

    You claim Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld planned 9/11.
    Do you really believe that Mohamed Atta brought his last will and testament with him, and loaded it into his luggage?

    That's asinine.

    [email protected]
    http://www.911blogger.com/node/9654

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    LOL... Isn't it people who fall into that catagory those who are more likely to believe in conspiracies?

    I like many of Paul's views, but I do not support him. I never did. Liberal... No ing way. I am for small government, reducing regulations, and freedom. That places me as a conservative libertarian.... or a cons utionalist!


    Sure, I can agree that maybe it helps to a small percentage. I see no results, do you? It is still a commodity traded world wide. To make any worthwhile difference, we would have to stop it from being a world traded commodity!
    9/11 was carried out by terrorists.

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    Blah, blah, blah.
    You claim Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld planned 9/11.

    True or false?

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    You claim Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld planned 9/11.

    True or false?
    Bush is too stupid to plan anything.

    This should answer your question:

    Just What Was Cheney Doing on the Morning of 9/11?
    http://www.911blogger.com/node/8771

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    You claim Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld planned 9/11.

    True or false?
    Does WTC 7 look like a controlled demolition?

    True or false?

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    And the detonation charges in all of them went off as planned. But not 7. Even so, we would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling libertarians!
    That's it, you can expect a wet ops team to be closing on your position any time now. Say hi to Chuck for me; right before he hits your kill switch...'kay?

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    Bush is too stupid to plan anything.

    This should answer your question:

    Just What Was Cheney Doing on the Morning of 9/11?
    http://www.911blogger.com/node/8771
    That doesn't answer my question.

    My question is to you and need only be answered with a "yes" or "no."

    Do you claim that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld planned 9/11?


    Yes

    or

    No

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    Does WTC 7 look like a controlled demolition?

    True or false?
    True.

    This has never been in question in this thread.

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    True.

    This has never been in question in this thread.
    Aha! So you're admitting it was a controlled demolition!

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    That doesn't answer my question.

    My question is to you and need only be answered with a "yes" or "no."

    Do you claim that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld planned 9/11?


    Yes

    or

    No
    Impeach Cheney first!

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