But you're so readily to give up on the potential of the Spurs 2009 28th pick?
Stephen A. just said "spurs got a great deal giving up barry elson and a second rounder"
Was he just mispoken, or is there misinformation somewhere?
This deal would be soooo much better if it is a second rounder. I like it either way, but keeping that pick would be great.
I agree that it's finding a balance between the future and now.
I just think that the gain of Thomas and the loss of Barry/Elson wasn't worth this first round pick.
I think we disagree on that not because I value more the pick than you but because I'm no as high on Thomas as you.
We just don't have the same evaluation on Thomas. It's then kinda logical that we disagree on whether the trade is good or not.
This is a good trade because:
- As much as I loved Barry's game, the risk that he would get re-injured or not come back 100% was too great.
- I think you start Thomas with Duncan and make use of his mid-range J to space the floor for Tim. Thomas is slow but if he plays closer to the basket, he won't have to move much laterally and Duncan can be the help defender who does more roaming swoops in to blocks shots. As already mentioned, Oberto has good synergy with Manu anyway so give him more time with the second unit.
- KT is an enforcer. We haven't had one this year and Pop always has at least one. KT isn't afraid to foul someone like CP3 or Deron or Kobe *hard* to send a message.
- His rebounding will help Tim save energy for 4th quarters. He'll set great picks for our guards. If he's ever on the floor when Tim sits, our rebounding won't suffer. With Tim off the floor, we can't seem to grab a board to save our lives.
- He's got tons of playoff experience. He's been to the big dance once before and was in the conference semis recently. He should be *really* hungry to get over that hump.
He'll definitely help us against key playoff teams like Utah, Lakers, Houston, Phoenix. I know I'll miss Barry but keeping him after two consecutive injuries at his age at the expense of improving up front doesn't make sense. Hopefully, he'll get waived anyhow and resigns with us so we can have our cake and eat it too.
That would be sweet.
Blah Blah Blah..... Barry was important, but the Spurs already have the same thing in others. The dude is frickin broke. They traded a broke player, a ty player and a ty player to be named later for a solid potential starting center.I'm choosing to purposely ignore your rude sarcasm and dumbass assumptions.
I never said this was a "horrible trade worst trade in the history of the NBA." I did point out that it was a lot to give up to get Kurt Thomas when you factor in a valuable first round pick and I think Barry was a lot more important to the Spurs than many people realize.
Did you not watch the playoffs last year? Thomas was THE ONLY center that gave the Spurs difficulty and now we got him.
Damn....
Francisco Elson as your 4th big demanded it.
ouch. I guess I should feel hurt.I'm choosing to purposely ignore your rude sarcasm
Now your comparing apples to oranges.But you're so readily to give up on the potential of the Spurs 2009 28th pick?
If Sanikidze was the sticking point in a deal to acquire Mike Miller, I would say Adios Viktor.
You trade uncertainty, FOR certainty.
The team's weakness in the frontcourt outweighed having Brent barry.
Thats all i've said. Despite what you people want to twist around and try and insult me with.
Well, I was kinda liking the deal. Now I'll have to rethink things. Blast.
He is a long long shot.
He is still young so there is still some hope but, right now, it doesn't look good.
Awesome post twohand, spot on with my feelings and I agree.
Thomas makes this team damn damn damn good now.
I feel much better about the playoffs than I did 24 hours ago.
Exactly. Thomas fits up front with TD, which of course is the main criteria for a Spurs' bigman.
True. Between him and Horry the Spurs have enough saltiness up front now.- KT is an enforcer. We haven't had one this year and Pop always has at least one. KT isn't afraid to foul someone like CP3 or Deron or Kobe *hard* to send a message.
Good point. I'm not sold on rebounding not being a concern for the Spurs. And if it's a strength, hey, nothing wrong with improving that a little more.
- His rebounding will help Tim save energy for 4th quarters. He'll set great picks for our guards. If he's ever on the floor when Tim sits, our rebounding won't suffer. With Tim off the floor, we can't seem to grab a board to save our lives.
True. Elson just didn't have a clue sometimes.
- He's got tons of playoff experience. He's been to the big dance once before and was in the conference finals recently. He should be *really* hungry to get over that hump.
Plus you don't know what Horry can bring this season.He'll definitely help us against key playoff teams like Utah, Lakers, Houston, Phoenix. I know I'll miss Barry but keeping him after two consecutive injuries at his age at the expense of improving up front doesn't make sense. Hopefully, he'll get waived anyhow and resigns with us so we can have our cake and eat it too.
That would be sweet.
So you have your 1st rounder and two 2nd rounders to use on international prospects in this June's draft.
Yeah, I can see where TIMVP and others are coming from, but I just have to respectfully disagree when they bring up the rebounding.
outside of Duncan, Oberto, and Udoka, whos a good rebounder?
Even if hes just bench depth and plays for Duncan when he goes to the bench, this is still a fantastic trade.
Ass Smith was on suns/lakers halftime and I heard him insinuate Sam Presti did the Spurs a favor. He said as much as Walton started talking.
the spurs suck at rebounding and this was a good move.
Very good trade for the Spurs. Thomas must be thrilled he is coming to SA to play with Timmy and the boys for a shot at a ring. He'll fit in well. Plays good D, hits the jumpshot with great consistancy. I am not worried about that 1st RD pick as we know the Spurs will just draft another foreign player who won't play for them for a few years. Timmy is 32, the time to go for broke for a shot to win the 5th le in the glorious Tim Duncan Era is now. I like this deal.
The Spurs had to make this deal. They need Thomas for his interior defense and rebounding. The 1st round pick is a steep price, but they are trying to win now.
too bad we had to lose barry for him but the upside to this is we finally got someone better than elson in the middle.
is there an HEB outlet in oklahoma or seattle?
they try to win every year. i don't see the 1st round pick as a steep a price considering that splitter will be coming on board next season. besides, how high a pick would the spurs get anyway?
One other plus to this, and its been covered but I think it needs to be brought back up.
Kurt Thomas is a tough, mean, bad ass.
I mean he is a take no , kick your ass big man.
Something the Spurs have had in everyone one of their championship runs.
Sorry to be a repeater.
Agreed.
Why do people quiver at the thought of losing a first rounder.
Please name the last first rounder to stick with this team.
Hint: Tony Parker
We got Mahimi and Splitter waiting in the wings and a championship rotation pretty much set even with some departures next year.
Yeah Splitter is really really gonna impress next year.
He might get good enough to the point where Oberto and his expiring could be packaged next year, depending on how is transistion.
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