Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[spurraider21]

If only I had known Durham was going to expose the whole thing

durham exposed that in his opinion, they should have launched a preliminary investigation instead of an investigation

THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN

[TSA]

durham exposed that in his opinion, they should have launched a preliminary investigation instead of an investigation

THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN

I showed you the difference between a preliminary and full investigation yesterday...do you need it explained to you again?

Had the FBI followed protocol and done a preliminary investigation on Papadapolous and actually followed up and interviewed him and investigated his claims they would have found out he had zero ties to Russian intelligence and knew nothing about any Russian plans and the preliminary investigation would have been closed.

[Winehole23]

if wishes were horses, beggars would ride!

[Winehole23]

[Spurs Homer]

I showed you the difference between a preliminary and full investigation yesterday...do you need it explained to you again?

Had the FBI followed protocol and done a preliminary investigation on Papadapolous and actually followed up and interviewed him and investigated his claims they would have found out he had zero ties to Russian intelligence and knew nothing about any Russian plans and the preliminary investigation would have been closed.

in your fantasy scenario:

what would have happened if they had closed this fantasy preliminary investigation...

and then discovered later that 5 hours after trump invited russia to attack a usa citizen - russia complied and attacked the servers?

would you and your comrades need ANOTHER 4 year investigation of deflections, denials and lies and conspiracies

to be right back in the same place again?


hahahahahaha!

[Spurs Homer]

Not even sure if this is the treason thread to post this in;


https://www.npr.org/2023/05/31/11791...an-citizenship


another russian spy/traitor/republican/cultist/magat. Going back home to russia…after falsely accusing biden of sex crimes…

when will george “devolder” (spelled backwards= redloved) santos defect back to russia?

when will comrade TSA go back?

[TSA]

IG already said it was properly predicated even if FISA applications were crap

[TSA]

Have been waiting for RandomGuy thoughts on all this but he's been mysteriously missing from any of these topics.

[TSA]

where you at djohn2oo8

[ChumpDumper]

Not much of a victory lap, TSA.

Sorry things didn't work out for you.

[RandomGuy]

Have been waiting for RandomGuy thoughts on all this but he's been mysteriously missing from any of these topics.

Haven't been on ST for a few days. Been missing from all topics.

This sounds like another sandwich that you have been convinced is delicious by the poisonous echo chamber you inhabit.

The pizzagate sandwich you smeared all over your face, despite being told by people here that it was a sandwich, should have been your wake up call that you are eating sandwiches. You realized it was a sandwich eventually, washed up, and the same people that served you that sandwich, prepped another one. You took the plate with the "mueller is really investigating democrats" sandwich then chomped away at that, despite being told by people here that it was a sandwich. Once you realized that was indeed a sandwich, you washed up, got a breath mint and asked for more.

Time after time, after time.

you just never learn.

[spurraider21]

[TSA]

Horowitz ended up being completely wrong. Can't blame him though as he did not have access to same evidence as Durham and didn't have power of grand jury to produce evidence/testimony.

[TSA]

Haven't been on ST for a few days. Been missing from all topics.

You are such a disingenuous coward You were running around here tagging me and spamming Trump indictment news in threads that had nothing to do with Trump.

This sounds like another sandwich that you have been convinced is delicious by the poisonous echo chamber you inhabit.

The pizzagate sandwich you smeared all over your face, despite being told by people here that it was a sandwich, should have been your wake up call that you are eating sandwiches. You realized it was a sandwich eventually, washed up, and the same people that served you that sandwich, prepped another one. You took the plate with the "mueller is really investigating democrats" sandwich then chomped away at that, despite being told by people here that it was a sandwich. Once you realized that was indeed a sandwich, you washed up, got a breath mint and asked for more.

Time after time, after time.

you just never learn.

Let's see if you have any honor whatsoever.

Did you eat up the Russiagate sandwich and come back for more time after time despite me telling you it was a hoax from the start?

[Spurs Homer]

Hahahahaha!

comrade TSA gonna die on the GYM JORDAN propaganda committee now!

the predicate to open ANY investigation - is NEVER based on what trumpers, gym jordan, putin, comrade tsa

or ANYONE else prefers or makes up

the EVIDENCE and PROBABLE CAUSE that there might be crimes committed is what ANY proper investigative agency base their opening of ANY investigation

but comrade tsa will swallow all the propaganda that the right wing traitors serve up 24/7

[TSA]

Hahahahaha!

comrade TSA gonna die on the GYM JORDAN propaganda committee now!

the predicate to open ANY investigation - is NEVER based on what trumpers, gym jordan, putin, comrade tsa

or ANYONE else prefers or makes up

the EVIDENCE and PROBABLE CAUSE that there might be crimes committed is what ANY proper investigative agency base their opening of ANY investigation

but comrade tsa will swallow all the propaganda that the right wing traitors serve up 24/7

Crossfire Hurricane was not properly predicated. That isn't up for dispute anymore.

[TSA]

Washington Post is the most accurate. Let's just say many of these outlets sat on the Steele dossier for months. CNN being the slowest to break any story because Zucker is friends with Jared and Ivanka.

[TSA]

I didn't realize how all in RandomGuy went on the Steele dossier

[Ef-man]

Hahahahaha!

comrade TSA gonna die on the GYM JORDAN propaganda committee now!

the predicate to open ANY investigation - is NEVER based on what trumpers, gym jordan, putin, comrade tsa

or ANYONE else prefers or makes up

the EVIDENCE and PROBABLE CAUSE that there might be crimes committed is what ANY proper investigative agency base their opening of ANY investigation

but comrade tsa will swallow all the propaganda that the right wing traitors serve up 24/7

Seriously, he has become thodren with all the conspiracies he believes in.

How can anyone believe that he is anything but an idiot that is not even respected by his children?

[Spurs Homer]

Crossfire Hurricane was not properly predicated. That isn't up for dispute anymore.

its absurd on its face

you saw with your own eyes and ears the news when:

australia warned usa intel of russians helping trump campaign
trump tower (“adoptions” mtg
kilimnik gettting campaign pollin data
treason at helsinki
trump asking russia to attack usa citizen (“russia if you are listening…”)

mueller report pointing out MANY instances of illicit contacts, russia helping trump team/trump team welcoming help


IG report already cleared it and said it was properly opened

yet

durham- who is just like you- and was appointed by bill barr who is a traitor like you


and after all the proof- your propaganda orders are to still claim garbage propaganda

you are absolutely still defending the traitors who attempted a coup- and arrogantly promoted pizzagate

[Spurs Homer]

Seriously, he has become thodren with all the conspiracies he believes in.

How can anyone believe that he is anything but an idiot that is not even respected by his children?

yup

he has been CORRECTED hundreds of times by the FACTS- yet continues on like an idiot or an actor not sure which!

[Ef-man]

yup

he has been CORRECTED hundreds of times by the FACTS- yet continues on like an idiot or an actor not sure which!

Yes, he is an online troll for sure but something tells me, because of his dedication to conspiracies, that it carries over to real life.

Imagine being one of his family members? , what a sad life!!!

[TSA]

Why does his presence in the country have anything to do with the veracity of the report? Did you read the report/dossier at all?

That is some more of what was confirmed by the do ent.

Every WHO mentioned in this dossier as having contacts with Russians that people have done any digging about has panned out. I care less about grammar, and more about things that can be verified.

The dossier, for all its faults, is the roadmap for the investigation.

Steele's dossier describes a consistent, high-level effort to coordinate efforts between the Russian government, and the Trump campaign. It names Manafort directly.

The same Manafort at the meeting in Trump tower.

As would be expected with any raw intelligence compilation some of it has been actively corroborated, some not, but the overall assertions contained in this, outside of the pee tape, have begun to be borne out.

If you haven't actually read the whole thing, you probably should.

The Steele Dossier is evidence. Not evidence you like, or consider valid, but it is evidence.

What is interesting is how many things that can be corroborated out of the Steele dossier have panned out, as time goes by.

At this point, I am sadly confident that, as soon as Trump is out of office and not useful to the Russian government anymore, sex tapes of Donny are going to come out.

Pretty much what the Steele dossier alleges. A sustained effort of coordination and intelligence sharing.

Steele dossier details a sustained relationship, with information flowing both ways, and meetings between Trump campaign and various levels of campaign officials.

After Trump has ceased being useful, whatever the Russians have has a good chance of coming out. Putin has enough money, so he might not care if Trumps businesses don't pay back the loans.

At that point, the sheer mayhem that such tapes would create will be irresistible to someone attempting to de-stabilize the western political system, and liberal democracy.

I think the Steele dossier is broadly accurate, as it has proven so far.

Russian intelligence has compromised Donald Trump in some way, and Crooked Donny knows this.

As noted in the dossier, there has been a concerted effort on the part of Russian intelligence services to recruit assets for decades, as they have always done.

Specifically, I think they have given Trump a list of people they find "acceptable" for certain posts, with the criteria "acceptable" being that these people are either Russia-friendly or the Russians have leverage on them. This would explain how so many people in Trumps orbit just "happen" to have Russian ties.

Below Trump there was data flowing back and forth, again outlined fairly clearly in the dossier.

They used data garnered from the RNC databases to give to the Russians for their targeted disinformation campaign. The campaign staff also was used as a conduit to give information on Russian oligarch economic activity to Putin, so he can keep tabs on his "allies".

This was outlined in the Steele Dossier, if you had read it. The attempts by Carter Page and Manafort to coordinate with the Russians was part of that, and both were mentioned, as one of the facts that actually panned out from this do ent.

Cir stantial ad hominem

Funding source is irrelevant to underlying truth of any claims in them.

I told your dumb ass to look this up, but you can't seem to pass up an opportunity to play in your own waste.

Fallacy occurs when someone uses unsound reasoning to support a claim or argument. Cir stantial Ad Hominem occurs when someone attacks a claim by saying that the person making the claim is only making it because it's in his/her interest or because of his/her cir stances.

Correct critical thinking answer to your question is: Doesn't really matter.


Is the do ent false because of who paid for it?

Steele's contacts were somewhat unique, which is why he was brought in.

I find it... bizarre... how badly the right wants Steele to be some sort of villain here. Steele has paid an incredible price, as have some of his likely sources[Russian KGB general murdered, spy and daughter poisoned], for coming forward.

IF that dossier was made up out of whole cloth.. Russian intelligence certainly seems to be awfully determined to kill people it knows weren't involved... just sayin

Can you provide some background information on how you came to the conclusion that the FISA warrant "heavily relied" on the Steele Dossier?

That is the problem for the people saying how politically motivated this thing is so it isn't trustworthy.

Everything that can be verified, has been.

Oddly enough, everything in the Steele dossier that can be independently verified... checks out.

So basically the Steele Dossier was right, and the more they dug, the more stuff of what he was doing they found, exactly what one would expect from someone actually doing something wrong that is investigated.

Steele is very credible. That is why you fail.

There has already been collusion, you witted simpleton.

The Steele dossier outlined a bunch of people in Trumps orbit, including Cohen who met with various Russian officials. Every single one of those meetings was confirmed to one degree or another, but they could never quite find enough on Cohen to 100% confirm it. *from what was available publicly.

So now, Cohen is going to detail just how he committed treason with the S bag Donny.

trying to laugh it all off.

You are one deluded chicken er.

Steele Dossier is batting 100% when it comes to outlining people related to Trump that colluded with Russia in some way.

What will your dumb ass say when Cohen starts talking about his meeting in Prague, moron?

I think, as the Steele dossier said waaaay back, that there was some high level coordination of efforts, i.e. collusion, with Russian intelligence. I guessed it was data sharing, because there were and are open source reports of such. We are starting to see that, like just about everything else that can be verified, pan out.

[Spurs Homer]

lol

TSA actually believes DURHAM was not planted by trump and barr to promote russian propaganda

[Spurs Homer]

Will be recording tonites repeat re-airing of this durham hearing as reports are coming in that dems destroyed most of durhams lies and propaganda…

durham when asked if he investigated the evidence the italians offered pointing to trump crimes: “that was not in my purview!”

hahahahahahaha!

swallwell grilled his ass on all of the contacts/meetings, etc between trump team and russians

which durham had zero pushback on


lol TSA fooled again