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I wont go that far yet ...but it's getting close.
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I wont go that far yet ...but it's getting close.
Exactly right.
Agreed. About as absurd as mentioning Kobe in the same sentence as MJ.
Now Wade, that's a different story. 2nd best SG to ever play the game.
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naw, you can't rule the dude out yet. i'll admit it's getting harder to defend him, but there are still more final games to be played, although I thought he was coming out tonight and going to drop 40, so it shows what i apparently know
He had it from the day he stepped into the NBA, just like 10-15 other players that have come into the league. He will never be a top 5 goat player because he gave up his chance when he went to Miami, he has essentially become the 3rd option for the Heat...
The guy still has not developed a go-to offensive move. Elite defensive clubs won't let you walk right into the paint whenever you want, and the only thing he can do outside of that is stepping into a long 2 ball or shooting a 3 straight up. Dallas is a good defensive team, but they are arguably the worst defensive team in the finals the past few years. They're undersized and slow and have to rely on a zone when it comes down to it.
To me, even if Lebron wins 3-4 rings with this Heat team (which would probably be best case scenario at this point), I don't think he'd break into the top 10.
One thing I will say though, I put Wade at fringe top 5 SG (top 30-35 overall) and now I have easily in the top 4, and depending on how the next couple of years turn out he could definitely pass West for #3. To me, what he's done in these finals is more impressive than 06. He now can score inside and out and doesn't have to rely on refs to make him an efficient scorer.
Mavs could be up 3-1 or Miami 3-1 to be fair
Not being a homer, but I take Manu in a big game before Lebron.
Heat could be up 4-0. Probably should be, actually.
He's already better than West ever was.
Why didn't Dwhistle hold his eye on that last play? He might have gotten the call.
I would agree with that, but Heat can't blow this team out. Every loss for either team is gut wrenching.
heat blew such a huge opportunity. mavs kept missing so many open shots u gotta pounce and win. reminded me of game 4 of the 09 finals. Lakers had no business winning that game especially with the magics 18-2 ft advantage.
Did you ever see West play?
He's already better than West ever was.
Good point.
I was gonna ask the same ...I havent but wade is 3rd best SG I have ever seen ...plays it like a SF.
Not live. But I've seen enough to know he is not better than Dwyane Wade.
So will the Mavs have one of those game where they are unconcious from 3 point land?
This was the heat's chance for sure. You were basically playing a Dirk-less Mavs and you lost a crucial game that would have locked up the series.
I still think Miami comes back and wins game 5 b/c I don't think the Mavs supporting cast will play as well as they did this game, but really who knows at this point
No doubt that Wade is a beast. But just because West played 30 years ago and is white doesn't mean he wasn't also a beast. He was an incredible shooter- especially in the clutch and he had amazing hops and could take it to the hoop with the best of them.
Watching West and Elgin Baylor together was amazing . Baylor is another of the all but forgotten all time greats.
Not hating on West when I put Wade over him, but a 6' 2" SG, who was above average athletically, wouldn't succeed in the modern era as a prolific scorer (you might be inclined to state Iverson, but West was nowhere as quick). I think West would play point guard in today's game, and be quite good.
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