General 2012 Free Agency Discussion

[DPG21920]

Ronnie Brewer to the Knicks for the minimum.

Man, under this new CBA, it seems like if a player can't cash in, he just signs with one of the five biggest market teams. @ "parity"
/emo

Well if the Spurs would stop saying they are done making roster moves and that they want to keep their roster at 14, maybe guys would look at coming here.

[ace3g]

Michael Lee ‏@MrMichaelLee

Seeking a backup for John Wall, #wizards have agreed to terms with free agent PG A.J. Price. Price has been with IND past 3 years.

Brooklyn Nets sign F Tornike Shengelia

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/brookly...8067--nba.html

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It's weird that Kirilenko is making the move now to go back to the NBA. A lot of teams have no money left. I'm not sure if there are teams that are good fits for him and with enough money left.

That's kind of good for us. If he's not going to cash in someplace, a decent shot a championship (Us...) might be the deciding factor.


PS. Dreaming in technicolor is fun. I do recognize that the FO is so extremely happy with the current big collection that they have no intention of changing it. Bonner and Blair give us so much impact in the playoffs!

[Bruno]

What is sure about Kirilenko is that if he ends playing to the Nets for the min (they can't offer more), it will make a ton of noises. The assumption that Nets owner has an under the table deal with Kirilenko will be too easy to make. And he will be impossible for the NBA to check that Kirilenko doesn't get additional money because the money transfer will be done in Russia.

[DPG21920]

Pretty sure they won't care for the reasons you stated (really can't prove anything).

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Several league executives believe Minnesota is pursuing free agent Andrei Kirilenko. He's no longer considering Brooklyn, sources say.

[timvp]

Kirilenko is going to get >$8M.

@ those of use who thought he might accept MLE

[racm]

Damn, Kahn has a pretty white roster that's not bad.

I think it's Adelman who pretty much pulls some strings to prevent Kahn from overloading on point guards.

[DPG21920]

Kirilenko is going to get >$8M.

@ those of use who thought he might accept MLE

Well, there were those who thought Jamison wouldn't take the league min, so there is always hope tbh.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Not exactly an impressive resume when you take a closer look. The Cavs game was over after a 32-18 1st quarter, in a game where Luke Walton played 18 minutes. Granted Mills scored efficiently, but it wasn't exactly against top level players or subs.

Then there is the Suns game in which Mills went 9-23 for 27 points while both Channing Frye and Grant Hill were injured and didn't play, and Nash played a total of 17 minutes. To put things in perspective Josh Childress, who the money conscious Suns felt was worth amnestying this off-season, played 21 minutes that same game. In fact with the exception of Ronnie Price, no one on the Suns played fewer minutes than Nash and yet they only lost by 4.

Then there was the final game against GSW. Again keep in mind this was a GSW team that had to lose in order to have a chance at keeping their lottery pick. So in order to do that they started 5 rookies, played a total of 7 players with Chris Wright and Jeremy Tyler logging 46 and 44 minutes respectively.

That's not to say the Spurs were at full strength, since the Big 3 didn't play in any of those games, and Splitter and Green played only limited minutes in the GSW win. However none of those games are particularly good indicators of how he will workout as a full-time backup PG for the Spurs.

Mills was the backup in a dysfunctional Portland team for 74 games and did fine. In his 16mins per game for us last season (over 16 games) Patty averaged 10/2/2, shot .485 and .429 from 3. He plays hard D, and is a great team mate. He runs the Australian team like a grizzled alpha dog at the age of 23. He will be a GREAT backup PG for the Spurs, probably the best since Speedy.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/patric...eer_stats.html

[racm]

The Spurs system is IMO a better fit for Mills. Portland was all about slow-it-down; I think the 2010-11 Blazers were dead last in pace or close.

The Spurs system isn't quite Seven Seconds or Less, but a system that exploits the fastbreak and relies on ball and off-ball movement to get the best shot available in the halfcourt, regardless of who takes it.

[AFBlue]

Mills was the backup in a dysfunctional Portland team for 74 games and did fine. In his 16mins per game for us last season (over 16 games) Patty averaged 10/2/2, shot .485 and .429 from 3. He plays hard D, and is a great team mate. He runs the Australian team like a grizzled alpha dog at the age of 23. He will be a GREAT backup PG for the Spurs, probably the best since Speedy.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/patric...eer_stats.html

Excuse me?

[DPG21920]

Still nothing on K-Mart or Blatche which is interesting.

[venitian navigator]

Still nothing on K-Mart or Blatche which is interesting.

...think you say interesting meaning their market value is going down...and that could let them to consider a Spurs offer for the minimum ?

[Redshadows]

What a boring summer.

[DPG21920]

...think you say interesting meaning their market value is going down...and that could let them to consider a Spurs offer for the minimum ?

I think they both will have to sign for close to the min more than likely. It's hard to tell, but it doesn't seem like the Spurs have interest in either player regardless of whether or not they would sign for the min.

I just thought it was interesting that with all the guys being signed (even some really bad players) that you haven't heard anything around these two who definitely could help a team in need of a PF.

[spurs10]

I think they both will have to sign for close to the min more than likely. It's hard to tell, but it doesn't seem like the Spurs have interest in either player regardless of whether or not they would sign for the min.

I just thought it was interesting that with all the guys being signed (even some really bad players) that you haven't heard anything around these two who definitely could help a team in need of a PF.

[Bruno]

Still nothing on K-Mart or Blatche which is interesting.

https://twitter.com/JaredZwerling

Spoke with Andray Blatche's manager today. Wouldn't comment on teams interested. Said a few. He's working in Houston at John Lucas' camp.

Manger on Blatche: "Amnestying w/ the Wiz not a surprise. Was kind of mutual. I think it worked out on both ends." Starting not a focus.

Nothing serious about Blatche isn't that surprising since he is a free agent for a little over a week. The silence about Martin is more troubling. Maybe he is asking for too much money and teams are only willing to offer him the minimum.

[timvp]

He's working in Houston at John Lucas' camp.

Probably means Blatche is fat, a drunk or both. He's probably trying to get in reasonable shape before he starts shopping around.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Minnesota is finalizing a two-year, $20 million contract with free agent forward Andrei Kirilenko, league sources tell Y! Sports.

[DPG21920]

I'd rather pay AK47 10M per year than Batum. Especially rather pay AK 20M guaranteed (if that is the case) than 45M for Batum.

Wing play was a large part of their struggles last year and AK is definitely an upgrade. Minny looks like a playoff team if everyone is healthy.

[ace3g]

This should make KLove happy, he said recently he would consider leaving if the Wolves FO didn't make moves to improve the team.

[DPG21920]

If KLove is as good as he thinks he is - no excuses now.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Kirilenko's deal with the Wolves is expected to include a player option for the 2013-'14 season, sources said.

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My top remaining FAs are: Dominic McGuire, Blatche, Kenyon Martin, James Singleton, and DJ White.

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If KLove is as good as he thinks he is - no excuses now.

Exactly. Is there a more arrogant player in the league at the moment? If James, Howard, Anthony, you name it, said half the things he's said in the past year or two, they'd be vilified beyond belief. I realize he's amongst the best players in the game, but he really thinks he's in the elite of the elite, with James, Durant, Howard, Wade, Paul and Rose. As if piling up meaningless numbers on a non playoff team makes him important. It didn't make countless others in that position important or earn them multiple All-Star berths.

As far as them making the playoffs, I think the Jazz edge them out. Their pieces fit more seamlessly together, they've taken potentially major strides to fix their biggest weakness by adding the likes of the Williamses and Foye and unlike the Timberwolves, who have undergone their annual off season overhaul, they figure to have a semblance of continuity.