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    ARON BAYNES 2012
    Let me start by saying i am from Slovenija huge fan of Union Olimpija and i ve seen over 30 games played by my team this year most of them in person. Let me break player profile at DRAFT EXPRES and give u my perception of pply s abilities backed up by some stats:

    * Physical presence
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    Arons ability as a powerful big man was dully noticed in Euroleage. Often pushing and carrying best opp. big man out of a paint like its nothing. Loncar,Davis even so called "Baby Shack Shortcanidis" 7th 250lbt Panathinaicos center couldnt muscle im inside.

    * Little athleticism to speak of
    TRUE AND FALSE
    In Euroleague made a more than few power dunk and also posterized opp players. Standing dunk under the rim is standard weapon of choise. However thats is Euroleage in NBA his atletic skills would be most likely consider average at best. * LumberingI trully have no idea what that meens )
    * Leaping ability is poor
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    Having achieved 9.8 reb /game he was BEST rebounder in Euroleague and 3rd best in regional ABA leaguu (7.1reb). * Extremely fundamental playerTRUE Scoring and rebounting was never a problem for Aron, but the number of moves in offense is very limited. Posses great hook shot, can dunk on ppl, can score by shooting form close range.. ..and thats about it.

    * Excellent touch around the basket
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    When he receve the ball in the paint he cant be stoped.

    * Lacks any real creativity with his post moves
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    Same as "fundemental player".

    * Holds his position wel
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    Like said befor he cant be moved inside even by bigger and heavier player.

    * Does a good job on the defensive glass
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    Having only 0.5 block per game in Euroleage and 0.9 in ABA league doesnt give a real picture of his inside defense. U have 2 realize that U.Olimpia played in Euro l. against teams who s basic offense is long range shootin (combine 72% live game points).Also never got "owned" by any big man in competision.His biggest problem was collectin lots of personal fouls, at start of a season he had 5 (max in europe) before the end of a game in 7 out of 9 games. Shown great progress on that area.

    Aron Baynes is hard working, intelegent player who, under good coaching (Greg would be perfect for him!!!) could develept into a good player.

    Some stats for Euroleague regular season:
    Ranks #1 : 2-pointers made (54)#1 in Offensive Rebounds (39)#1 in Total Rebounds (98)#3 in Defensive Rebounds (59)#10 in Points (138)#11 in Fouls Drawn
    Agree.
    Javtokas, Robertas, before accident, with less offensive skills.

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    Did we learn how to expedite the process with Patty?
    Pattys was a little different, he was already in the US when we signed him with a VISA that allowed him to work in Portland, he had to exit the country (I think he went down to mexico) and then re-enter the country via the Australian consulate in Mexico with a new work visa that allowed him to work in Texas, Aron would just have to enter the US with a work visa approval for Texas

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    Ive worked at US consulates, his visa would take about an hour.

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    The team mate he lifting is 3 times the size of Shaq.

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    Didnt read thread but only spurfan could get this excited over a 15th man who likely wont see much minutes at all during the season

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    Thanks for that! Oh, and what people say someone is lumbering, it means that they are heavy footed and slow.
    To answer Imakandi. You wouldn't consider Baynes a lumbering kind of player.

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    Ive worked at US consulates, his visa would take about an hour.
    the standard 6-month tourist visit doesn't permit employment.

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    Didnt read thread but only spurfan could get this excited over a 15th man who likely wont see much minutes at all during the season
    Say freetiago !

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    http://www.abovetherim.com.au/nba/au...off-the-court/

    AUSSIE STARS – ON AND OFF THE COURT

    I wanted to do an article on Australian basketballer’s in the NBA, but this has turn into something much bigger. It was originally meant to look at Patty Mills and how he has carved out a nice spot in the rotation for the San Antonio Spurs. Then the Spurs took it to the next step and signed another Aussie to their squad so welcome Aron Baynes, you are now a part of this feature as well. Finally, Matt Dellevadova was recently described as the best St Mary’s product since Patty himself, so I figured he should get a mention too. And yesterday it all culminated with a terrific twitter promotion from Patty Mills himself, as he offered signed jerseys to everyone who spent over $150 on his Wears My Shirt website so he could raise money for Cottage By the Sea. So here we are – this is much more than just a basketball article, it’s much more than an Australian article, this is quite frankly, one of the best, most enlightening and interesting stories you will read this week.


    Let’s start with Matthew Dellevadova. Delly was born in Maryborough, about an hour from where I am sitting and writing this. A small country town mainly known for farming, it will soon be known for producing one of Australia’s best basketball stars. He was recruited to the Australian Ins ute of Sport for high performance athlete’s and competed for the Australian Junior National team at the FIBA Under 19 World Championships. The Aussies finished 4th and Delly lead the squad with 10.1 points per game. Matthew Dellevadova also made it to the London 2012 Olympic squad which is where you may have seen his game most recently (unless you follow the Gaels of St Mary’s like a number of basketball mad Aussies do!) The 6’4” point guard has a very impressive resume, but a more impressive repertoire of skills. He is strong, quick, has terrific court vision and tops all that off with a smooth as silk jump shot. At 22 years of age and in his last year with the Gaels, we could be watching another Australian enter the NBA in the next draft. His scoring has gone up in each of his four seasons and he is currently pouring in 17.3ppg. Impressively, his shooting percentages have also gone up each year and he is netting them at a very efficient 45% fg and 40% 3pt. The Gaels have gotten off to a 4-1 start to their campaign and Delly is the big reason why. Make sure you follow this young man on twitter too, and show your support for a future star – @matthewdelly.


    Next on the list is arguably the best player in the European league currently and it is this form that has made the San Antonio Spurs sit up and take notice (having Aussie Boomers Head Coach Brett Brown as an assistant coach must help too) but there is no denying Aron Baynes is a star. Baynes was born in New Zealand but moved to Australia and we now claim him! He is a different story to Dellevadova – for starters Baynes is 26 years old, 6”10’ and plays big. He played four years of college basketball in the United States of America for Washington State from 2005-2009. In his final year he had decent numbers of 12.7ppg and 7.5rpg but went undrafted. He has had a good career over in Europe which started in Lithuania, and he has really impressed in his latest stint with Olimpija Ljubljana where he is putting up numbers to the tune of 14ppg and 10rpg. San Antonio have taken notice and it is no surprise as nearly half the roster for the Spurs is foreign, including Patty Mills. Baynes also played in the Olympic team with Mills and Dellevadova and his size and fundamental skill shone through on a number of occasions. After signing his new $3.5million 4 year contract, I for one can’t wait to see just what he can do on the world’s biggest and best stage – we think he has the goods! @aronbaynes


    Now we have spoken about the next generation of Aussie stars who have or will most likely make the NBA, it is time to focus on Patty Mills. Mills is a diminutive point guard from Australia. He stands barely 6’0 tall but plays big with blinding speed. Mills is the only Indigenous Australian currently playing in the NBA and is a big part of the Spurs rotation. He provides speed, outside shooting, a keen eye and sound knowledge of the game as well as the aforementioned quickness that an aging Spurs lineup needs. Mills played for the ACT Under 18 team and was swiftly recognised and given a scholarship to the Australian Ins ute of Sport which was not far from his home town of Canberra. Patty was selected to represent Australia in the Under 20 national team and impressed. He was then asked to try out for the 2006 FIBA World Championship Boomers squad, the youngest player to ever attend a Boomers training camp. He also earned Basketball Australia’s Male Junior player of the year award and then the 2006 Basketball Australia Player of the Year.


    After these accolades and honing his craft in the very compe ive SEABL compe ion, Mills took his talents over to the United States collegiate program where he attended St Marys University. After a very impressive career spanning 2 years (and dropping 18.4ppg and 4apg) and after leading the Gaels to the NCAA tournament, Mills went to the NBA. He was drafted in the 2nd round of the 2009 NBA Draft by the Portland Trailblazers, but only appeared in 10 games after breaking his foot in the NAB summer league. The following year he saw more games and more court time, with 64 appearances and averaging 12 mins per game, as he came back to full speed from his previous injury. During the NBA lockout, Patty Mills came back to Australia to play in the local NBL compe ion for the Melbourne Tigers. (Side Note: I was lucky enough to score a jersey and catch the Tigers victory over New Zealand for my bucks day!) However after just 9 games, Mills decided he would head over to China and ply his trade there. He would be released due to a hamstring injury and then was picked up by the San Antonio Spurs where he continued his career and stills plays today.


    Now we know of Patty’s on court achievements and his basketball talent, but this is where the story continues to grow and develop. Patty Mills is a very proud Australian – he loves the country, the people and gets back as often as he can. He also proudly represents Australia especially via his twitter account (@Patty_Mills). Yesterday, Patty hosted a compe ion via the Wears My Shirt website and the Patty Mills Foundation. He was raising money for Cottage By The Sea and was providing everyone who spent over $150 on products from the store a signed Patty Mills #8 Spurs jersey. The support was deafening, and not just from the faithful Aussie followers. He has a cult following over in America also and they were well represented on twitter this afternoon. By the end of it, thousands of dollars worth of orders were placed and Patty Mills was issuing over 40 signed jerseys. What an absolute champion. These types of stories get buried far too often and with the timing of Delly and Baynes and the upcoming Australia Day (which Patty cannot wait for!) we at Above The Rim thought it needed to be thrust into the spotlight.


    In a day an age where people especially sporting stars are seen as insensitive, selfish, inaccessible, Patty Mills is the polar opposite. Perhaps it is his nature, his background, his patriotism to his country, perhaps he wants to give back to those who have helped and supported him – whatever the reason, it needs to be acknowledged. I have no doubt that everyone in Australia is proud of Patty’s achievements as a basketball player, but I have a feeling that everyone who knows and follows Mills is proud of who he is as a person just as much, if not more so.


    For more information on the Patty Mills Foundation or Wears My Shirt, head over to their website at www.wearsmyshirt.com – check out all the work they do, but especially check out Patty Mills – his ASSIST AUSTRALIA campaign is listed on there, where he raised $40,000 for victims of natural disasters in Australia and much more. More importantly, continue to follow and support Patty who is super active on twitter – he deserves our attention on and off the court.

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    Saw this too on Twitter:

    Aron Baynes' visa situation seems to be very similar to Patty Mills' last season. Nothing to worry about Aussie hoops fans, he'll be a Spur.

    Though I don't know who he is, maybe some random fan.

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    Agree.
    Javtokas, Robertas, before accident, with less offensive skills.
    You guys really confident about this comparison? The Javtokas who was a Dwight Howard level athlete, able to dunk on a 12ft hoop?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvYgYijGCtY
    I hope you're right, bu I really don't see it. If Baynes had that kind of athleticism, he'd have been drafted...

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    You guys really confident about this comparison? The Javtokas who was a Dwight Howard level athlete, able to dunk on a 12ft hoop?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvYgYijGCtY
    I hope you're right, bu I really don't see it. If Baynes had that kind of athleticism, he'd have been drafted...
    I agree. The only positive regarding increased athleticism is that when he was of draft age he was not in the shape he is in now. But, Javtokas before the accident--no way.

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    Agree.
    Javtokas, Robertas, before accident, with less offensive skills.
    I've compared him to Javtokas but, IMO, it's more the post-accident version. Before the accident, Javtokas was a GREAT athlete (the "Euro Blake Griffin" wouldn't be much of a stretch) but had little technical skill. After the accident, he lost quite a bit of his athleticism (although he was still above average) but compensated by getting much more skilled.

    A bigger Javtokas post-accident with a little less skill? Something like that.

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    One thing for sure, the Spurs could have done a lot worse and probably have in the past.

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    Baynes could not get any worse than this....

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    Baynes could not get any worse than this....
    Couldn't you find a photo of him on the court?

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    Couldn't you find a photo of him on the court?
    Wouldn't make sense. This is the wild Blair's natural habitat.

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    Couldn't you find a photo of him on the court?
    lol!!!

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    Baynes could not get any worse than this....

    Never under estimate the power of this.............................................. ......

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    Never under estimate the power of this.............................................. ......
    Number 2, Plain and Dry, two slices of cheese, Whatasized, Coke with Little Ice. Extra butter on the Buns.
    So good I can only eat it once a month unfortunately. Drool...

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    Ahh Javtokas, the one that got away. Ive always believed the guy would have been huge here, a 7 footer that could dunk like a madman and bigger guns than David Robinson. , I still wish they would give him a shot, he's just 33 but I read he had a knee injury in the olympics.

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    Ahh Javtokas, the one that got away. Ive always believed the guy would have been huge here, a 7 footer that could dunk like a madman and bigger guns than David Robinson. , I still wish they would give him a shot, he's just 33 but I read he had a knee injury in the olympics.
    why did he never come over? did they just give up on him after the accident?

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    Because he and his agent were asses and tried to hardball and get more money mind you that the Spurs payed for his operations. Screw Him and his Agent!

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    If he was from Saudia Arabia he would have his Visa and be playing today.

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