lol California

[ElNono]

GDP is overrated when you don't account for liabilities. CA might produce 15% of the US state level GDP but also 25% of the US state level debt.

That makes no sense. The Debt/GDP ratio of the US is 123%, much larger than California's Debt/GDP ratio (~12%). The US commercial power, which is undisputed, comes straight from it's GDP output.

The most expensive state. The most high maintenance state. The highest producing for sure, but also borrowing the most debt. Shedding CA would be a net gain even if a gross loss.

How is Tennessee dead weight? It's got a booming economy and apart from Florida the most efficient state in the South with tons of jobs in all sectors and a massive music entertainment sector. The other two are pretty much dumps I can't really defend. If you wrote Kentucky instead of Tennessee maybe I'd agree to some extent. But you can't just break up natural geographic parts of a country and have a modern Kaliningrad. At least with California it's attached to the Baja peninsula.

Adding a state without subtracting and vice versa doesn't make sense. It makes sense to have exactly 50 states because it makes all the numbers work out well especially for us metric system lovers. Hawaii has no business being a state and never has, it's impractical to ship so much stuff out there. It was just fine as a satellite province before the late 50s. I'll take Alberta and Saskatchewan, tons of oil up there.

I did mean Kentucky instead of Tennessee, tbh... low education, unproductive, high crime, largely racist, still cling to invisible people in the sky... holes anyway you look at it. They had 250 years to figure it out, and epically failed. A drag on this country.

California is expensive, not gonna lie, but it's the price to pay when you're chock full of successful people and companies. There's a reason States like Texas and Florida can't stop begging Californians to move to their States.

Alberta is cold as . I visited, my sister lived there for a while. In the end, Americans love cheap, nice places. You grab some of the nicest Mexican resort spots, and it's a win-win, IMVHO.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

That makes no sense. The Debt/GDP ratio of the US is 123%, much larger than California's Debt/GDP ratio (~12%). The US commercial power, which is undisputed, comes straight from it's GDP output.



I did mean Kentucky instead of Tennessee, tbh... low education, unproductive, high crime, largely racist, still cling to invisible people in the sky... holes anyway you look at it. They had 250 years to figure it out, and epically failed. A drag on this country.

California is expensive, not gonna lie, but it's the price to pay when you're chock full of successful people and companies. There's a reason States like Texas and Florida can't stop begging Californians to move to their States.

Alberta is cold as . I visited, my sister lived there for a while. In the end, Americans love cheap, nice places. You grab some of the nicest Mexican resort spots, and it's a win-win, IMVHO.

I agree with Kentucky but the root problem is the "still cling to invisible people in the sky" thing. Until that particular thing changes, not much will improve. Unfortunately that specific problem was made worse by the Biden administration and public reaction to him/ unfavorability of it. America no doubt has gotten more religious since late 2021 and 2022 by a substantial margin.

Alberta isn't too cold if you go from May to September, to be fair.

With California it's not just too expensive but also there are too many regulations with everything, not just taxes and fees on everything but too many regulations, no amenities to be found anywhere, gas prices through the roof is a Cali-exclusive problem, hard to find free parking anywhere, hard to even find a ing bathroom honestly. And I'm not talking in the downtowns or San Fran, I'm talking suburban San Jose and the Inland Empire.

[Blake]

Lol "invisible people in the sky problem made worse by Biden"

Sure

[ElNono]

With California it's not just too expensive but also there are too many regulations with everything, not just taxes and fees on everything but too many regulations, no amenities to be found anywhere, gas prices through the roof is a Cali-exclusive problem, hard to find free parking anywhere, hard to even find a ing bathroom honestly. And I'm not talking in the downtowns or San Fran, I'm talking suburban San Jose and the Inland Empire.

Parking and bathrooms are the same in Manhattan, Paris, any big city, tbh... demand through the roof, not enough supply. Price you pay for living in highly successful cities everyone wants to live in.

The taxes, regulations, etc, all debatable. Gas prices actually made me go look for a hybrid car, and I couldn't be happier. That is the intention there, and I have to admit it works. You always have the option to pay more if you want the smoking V12.

The downside is largely pretty solid gentrification and NIMBYism though, so it's not all good.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Parking and bathrooms are the same in Manhattan, Paris, any big city, tbh... demand through the roof, not enough supply. Price you pay for living in highly successful cities everyone wants to live in.

The taxes, regulations, etc, all debatable. Gas prices actually made me go look for a hybrid car, and I couldn't be happier. That is the intention there, and I have to admit it works. You always have the option to pay more if you want the smoking V12.

The downside is largely pretty solid gentrification and NIMBYism though, so it's not all good.

comparing spread-out-as- California to fifteen-minute type extremely dense cities like Manhattan, Paris, London, DC etc.

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That makes no sense. The Debt/GDP ratio of the US is 123%, much larger than California's Debt/GDP ratio (~12%). The US commercial power, which is undisputed, comes straight from it's GDP output.



I did mean Kentucky instead of Tennessee, tbh... low education, unproductive, high crime, largely racist, still cling to invisible people in the sky... holes anyway you look at it. They had 250 years to figure it out, and epically failed. A drag on this country.

California is expensive, not gonna lie, but it's the price to pay when you're chock full of successful people and companies. There's a reason States like Texas and Florida can't stop begging Californians to move to their States.

Alberta is cold as . I visited, my sister lived there for a while. In the end, Americans love cheap, nice places. You grab some of the nicest Mexican resort spots, and it's a win-win, IMVHO.

...just don't keep laying anchor in Arizona as they move across.

[Winehole23]

looking for the link..

[SnakeBoy]

Eric Swalwell enters California governor’s race
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/1...ernor-00651742

Pelosi has finally made her pick

[Th'Pusher]

Eric Swalwell enters California governor’s race
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/1...ernor-00651742

Pelosi has finally made her pick

Solid pick