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    Castle seems like the most reasonable pick at #4, but I most definitely don't want him and Jeremy playing together as long as they're non-shooters.
    If we get rid of Keldon, Jeremy would be a perfect sixth man.

    I'd like someone to enlighten me, but I just don't see a functional lineup with both Castle and Jeremy. Just doesn't work.
    It probably doesn't work. If you get an exceptional perimeter scorer (Dillingham at his most upsideiest) then I think it potentially could work, expecting Vassell or another good spot-up shooter as the fifth guy. The theory is that Wembanyama has +++ gravity, Dillingham (at his most upsideiest) has + or even ++ gravity. So that's lethal enough that having Sochan and Castle abuse mismatches and cutting/setting screens and moving, the Spurs offense is hard to deal with even with two guys not totally spacing the floor.

    It's more of an old school set-up but works in theory because you have an Alien making everything awful to handle. In essence, the Spurs wouldn't need a modern offense because of Wemby but then their defense is incredible.

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    It probably doesn't work. If you get an exceptional perimeter scorer (Dillingham at his most upsideiest) then I think it potentially could work, expecting Vassell or another good spot-up shooter as the fifth guy. The theory is that Wembanyama has +++ gravity, Dillingham (at his most upsideiest) has + or even ++ gravity. So that's lethal enough that having Sochan and Castle abuse mismatches and cutting/setting screens and moving, the Spurs offense is hard to deal with even with two guys not totally spacing the floor.

    It's more of an old school set-up but works in theory because you have an Alien making everything awful to handle. In essence, the Spurs wouldn't need a modern offense because of Wemby but then their defense is incredible.
    If Wemby continues developing on this trajectory, anything will work, but we want to make it as easy for him as possible.
    Having two players who will be dared to shoot in 2024? I don't know about that.
    Especially since you want Wemby playing in the paint as much as possible.

    As for Castle, if he could have Butler-like development trajectory on offense, he'll be a parennial all-star and one of the best two way players in the league.
    We just need him to have a reliable mid-range early on.

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    If the Spurs trully put more emphasis on small sample size workouts instead of months of evidence, they are ing up, tbh.
    Depends, there was a story where ORL brought Jabari for a workout and he was so bad in the ball handling part that they had to pivot to Banchero. There is barely any PNR tape with Castle you can probably have more in 1 workout than his whole college season.

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    It’s hard for me to get excited about this guy Castle, watching him straight up looking to pass off wide open 3s. Shot 2 per at a very low mark. His release is sooo flat and has a slight hitch it seems like, at least sometimes. Also saw some sequences where he travelled or turned it over trying to make something happen when he’s set up beautifully wide open beyond 3.

    Just sag off of him and his entire game seems like it collapses. I know he’s likely quality elsewhere but I don’t want Sochan 2.0, officially a pass at 4 for me but would love to be wrong about him (if we draft him).

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    I think he is a similar prospect to Jalen Hood-Schifino if he played lead guard in college. Moves like a star and built like a star.

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    It’s hard for me to get excited about this guy Castle, watching him straight up looking to pass off wide open 3s. Shot 2 per at a very low mark. His release is sooo flat and has a slight hitch it seems like, at least sometimes. Also saw some sequences where he travelled or turned it over trying to make something happen when he’s set up beautifully wide open beyond 3.

    Just sag off of him and his entire game seems like it collapses. I know he’s likely quality elsewhere but I don’t want Sochan 2.0, officially a pass at 4 for me but would love to be wrong about him (if we draft him).
    thats why i want carter over castle.Carter will shoot with confidence open or not.He will take it to the rim with confidence.He will guard
    with confidence not backing down.Hes like a smaller derrick white.Hes the perfect fit with wemby imo

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    Evaluating players one year out of high school is hard. Back in the days when players stayed in college, the very best ones developed so much over two or three years. Now, so much of it is guesswork.

    A Castle who played three years at Connecticut might have developed a shot and become an obvious future All-Star. Or, he might have plateaued and become an obvious fringe role player. It was up to the player to prove their mettle. Now, the risk of all that uncertainty falls upon the drafting team.

    There are pluses and minuses. Diamonds in the rough can be found deeper in drafts. But high draft picks become nerve-wracking. An organization that is mediocre at scouting and player development can stay stuck in neutral indefinitely, even with high pick after high pick. Hopefully the current Spurs leadership is better than mediocre.

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    This video I mentioned before, compares Castle to Jarrett Culver as far as point guard skills go


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    I don't know how this guy is so high in the draft. Maybe his agent is greasing palms? I just don't see him, at this point, doing anything at the NBA level.

    He should have at least had a shot down by now. Doesn't have to be a 3 point, but some sort of shot. Guards need to be able to shoot these days, not just a drive. And prospects should have one ready to go...not ready to "develop" one. Ready to go. Like his Jimmy Butler type of physicality, but he's not even close to being ready.



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    Interesting interview of Dan Huley with Russilo about Castle

    The doubters should take a listen


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    Interesting interview of Dan Huley with Russilo about Castle

    The doubters should take a listen

    Perfect Spurs in my view. I dont think its an accident that its coming out that WAS is now more interested in Castle at 2. This, and the fact that people are starting to throw some shade at the French prospects.

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    Yeah Castle is absolutely the guy but I'm afraid Washington may nab him.

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    Perfect Spurs in my view. I dont think its an accident that its coming out that WAS is now more interested in Castle at 2. This, and the fact that people are starting to throw some shade at the French prospects.
    I know Harris is often full of but he mentioned Castle being a potential target of ATL... smh

    It could make sense if they anticipate the departure of either Trae or Dj

    ffs 5 more days to wait...

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    I know Harris is often full of but he mentioned Castle being a potential target of ATL... smh

    It could make sense if they anticipate the departure of either Trae or Dj

    ffs 5 more days to wait...
    IMO they've been trying to get the Spurs to trade up. At first they tried Risacher and that seems not to have worked. Now they're dangling Castle.

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    IMO they've been trying to get the Spurs to trade up. At first they tried Risacher and that seems not to have worked. Now they're dangling Castle.
    They're desperate to get their unprotected picks back.

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    Yeah Castle is absolutely the guy but I'm afraid Washington may nab him.
    I’m seeing kind of a duplication between him and Avdija.

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    IMO they've been trying to get the Spurs to trade up. At first they tried Risacher and that seems not to have worked. Now they're dangling Castle.
    Assuming the Spurs like all of Risacher, Castle, Sarr, and Sheppard, Atlanta is just farting into the wind.

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    Assuming the Spurs like all of Risacher, Castle, Sarr, and Sheppard, Atlanta is just farting into the wind.
    I don't think they'll get a bite. Atlanta is desperate to move down, and that makes sense. Just reading between the lines, the Spurs didn't bite when Risacher was getting dangled.

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    I’m seeing kind of a duplication between him and Avdija.
    I agree, but the Wizards aren't in a place to think about fit. (For all the talk about how drafts at the high lottery are about BPA, this draft has become massively about fit.) At their spot, looking at Sarr, Sheppard, Castle, etc., the best pick may be Castle. I think Sarr wants to go to Washington and they probably like him best too, but it's not a total given. Avdija/Coulibaly/Castle are a pretty good basis. Avdija/Coulibaly/Sarr probably is better.

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    Assuming the Spurs like all of Risacher, Castle, Sarr, and Sheppard, Atlanta is just farting into the wind.
    they're the ones who NEED to trade down so it's natural for them to stir up waters. Nice to see them fail to even get a nibble lmao they know they have to contend the next few years.

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    I’m more concerned with the fit with VW and Vassell, not Sochan. Sochan is on course to be a 4th or 5th offensive option. He was as awkward next to Victor the last game of the season as he was for the season opener. He’s not a point guard, not a rim protector, and sometimes looks out of place. He was able to raise his 3 point percentage up to 30 his second year with opposing teams’ worst defender sagging off. Not really pushing for Castle but if we’re working around Sochan’s shortcomings maybe the team needs a floor leader to point Jeremy where to stand on O. That’s how ridiculous some of these comments read. I don’t think it’s time to move on from Sochan. I would rather the team focus on contributing to their strengths and Jeremy isn’t on that list.

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    Yeah Castle is absolutely the guy but I'm afraid Washington may nab him.
    If it goes Clingan castle Sarr I’d be thrilled with Reed and SA can trade 8 for 5 to secure Risacher possibly

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    I don't know how this guy is so high in the draft. Maybe his agent is greasing palms? I just don't see him, at this point, doing anything at the NBA level.

    He should have at least had a shot down by now. Doesn't have to be a 3 point, but some sort of shot. Guards need to be able to shoot these days, not just a drive. And prospects should have one ready to go...not ready to "develop" one. Ready to go. Like his Jimmy Butler type of physicality, but he's not even close to being ready.


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    IMO they've been trying to get the Spurs to trade up. At first they tried Risacher and that seems not to have worked. Now they're dangling Castle.
    Absolutely, and i wonder is WAS is trying the same playbook now too.

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