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yeah i think it was pretty obvious who the refs were trying to help at the end of this game. How many FT's did mavs have in the 4th quarter?
The NBA knows that last year's finals between the Spurs and Pistons had the worst ratings in YEARS!! They dont want that to happen again, and will do what they have to to try to stop it. They cant 100% stop it without being completely obvious, but they can make things difficult for teams like the Spurs who they dont want to win due to the lack of revenue that they generate.
yeah i think it was pretty obvious who the refs were trying to help at the end of this game. How many FT's did mavs have in the 4th quarter?
who cares how many times the spurs fouled us in the 4th quarter....they can only blame themselves
Makes perfect sense to me, Detroit winning in 5 against the Mavs would really improve the ratings.
Sometimes it is just that obvious though, just if someone calls out the refs than they are making excuses, or whining. Ohhh and God forbid someone from the NBA calling out the refs b/c a fine would be waiting for them when they get home
I think the a Mavs vs. Pistons would be worse in the ratings.
The 2003 Finals had the worst ratings in years. Why didn't the league make it difficult for the Spurs last year?
Or is it just in even years that they lock down SA?
The Spurs have been the recipient of some rather questionable calls in this series thusfar. It's not a conspiracy, but it's hard to ignore, especially since two of those calls took out their franchise at inopportune moments. If TD didn't get that phantom 2nd foul in Game 2 I think the complexion of that game would've been wholly different. Anyways, I guess we Spurs fans can hope that TD doesn't get into foul trouble from here on. I like the Spurs' chances if that is the case.
I guarantee you a Mavs Pistons series would be better ratings for the NBA than a Spurs Pistons series. Remember that it isnt about quality of basketball, it is about which markets generate more money. So what if the Mavs lose in 5? They ratings will be better. The league would LOVE a Suns - Heat finals this year. Watch out DET!! You may be next on the hit list.
I did watch the game tonight, and there are some women who know something about basketball, believe it or not. There is a lot of talk about Tim's last foul. On looking at the replay, he did foul Dirk. Most teams play Dirk very close because they know he will get shots he goes after if they don't. Every team does that! He is no push over!! Fans don't seem to know that, but coaches and other players do. Your team has been playing him very close to prevent him from getting shots. When that happens, he may get a lot of fouls, which he did. No one is talking about Tim's 35 points, or Manu (I think) 24 they got last night. How come?
In years past as someone else pointed out, the calls have definitely gone in your favor! It is a simple way to work the refs really. You whine, and whine, and whine and then flop, flop, flop until they think the other team really is fouling you (even though they aren't) and you get the calls. This year the refs aren't buying it. Good for them! If you look at the pictures of your team doing that, they are funny, really. Academy Award performances if I ever saw it!
I really hope we play the Suns or the Mavs this year for the Championship. At least we will get straight up games that way. No flopping and whining.
Have you ever watched the Pistons play?
Who was going to beat SA last year? The Sonics? The Suns? The Spurs played great and the NBA didnt have a horse to ride like they do now. Dont get me wrong, I am not saying that only the Spurs are the recipient of bad officiating. Dont you think the officiating between the Heat and Pistons last year was slanted toward the Heat? I watched the games and got that impression. The Heat are a better market with Shaq than the Pistons. The Pistons won because they were the better team, but the league surely wanted the Heat there instead. And last years finals had horrible ratings. Just as bad as 2003
The only way Duncan's 6th foul was legit was if there was contact up top which preceeded Nowitzki's loss of control. That was not the case. The only contact was Nowitzki stepping on his foot. That's a bailout, not a foul. Ultimately I think the league needs to have some kind of replay policy, there's no reason not to. The refs already have that in place for shots at the end of quarters. It might not hurt refs to take another look, especially in the postseason, when one play can significantly affect a series.
Well this is one woman who doens't know about basketball
Exactly is was a convient call on a foul that is rarely called. Is it even a foul?
Did Dirk get a foul when Manu fell on Dirks foot a few years back, that answer is no.
First of all Mavs Fan 41, you're begging for someone to admit that the Spurs were outplayed tonight, and maybe they were, but it seems to me like you forgot that even with how horrible the Spurs played tonight and with how this was probally the worse D the Spurs played all season, the Mavs only won by one.
So don't act like the Mavs DOMINATED the Spurs
And to act like the refs had NO effect on the outcome of this game what so ever, just throws any creditbility you have out the window. So no one is going to take anything you post and more seriously than a Mavs fan who is happy his team is FINALLY good enough to take a 2-1 series lead in a best of 7 series.
I mean if it were the other way around I would be able to say that the Spurs got some help from the refs... I mean its not like I would not accept the win, or apologize to you Mavs fans for a crappy called game. So I dont expect you to, but I mean, come on, the refs helped the Mavs out in this game... So be happy with the win, but dont act like the NBA has the best refs ever and the Mavs just totally dominated the Spurs fair and square
Honey, it's only a foul if the defensive player initiates contact that gives the defensive player a compe ive advantage through physical contact. Dirk stepping on TD's foot and loosing the ball out of bounds does not count. Dirk initiated contact by stepping on TD's foot and TD never initiated any contact that gave him a compe ive advantage.
I think the Dallas fans know that tonight's game could've easily had a different, and unpleasant (for them) outcome. That's why they are in here seeking validation.
The NBA doesn't ONLY care about ratings, the more games are played the more advertising dollars can roll in as well. The bottom line with this conspiracy theory (as with most) is you're actually giving the NBA too much credit. You think an organization that set up a system that has the two best teams in the West playing in the 2nd round, and a team like the Clippers gaining a tangible playoff benefit from losing games down the stretch, you think an organization that incompetent could set up some massive conspiracy and not let any of these details escape, despite the hundreds (or thousands) of conspirators?
I don't...
Mny times!! I'm a Piston's fan, or did you not look. You want me to run down the starting line up or the coach for you? Just as a point of interest, Rasheed Wallace went to college at UNC.
Tim's foul: There was contact up top before Dirk lost control. That is why Tim got called for the foul! There was a replay. Maybe you didn't see it.
You think I don't know anything about basketball, because you didn't like what I said.
The only thing I ask for is a league that has the best officials on the court to call fair games. If the Mavs win a fair series, so be it. They would have deserved it. If the Spurs win a fair series, so be it. They would have deserved it. But these horrible officials that are allowed to make bad call after bad call with no reprocussions is unacceptable. Remember that it is not only calls in the 4th or in the last minutes that can decide a game... bull calls early in the game (as in game 2) can sideline a big player and completely take away a teams ability to compete when a team is being slammed so badly by the officials. The NBA officials play a major role in nearly every game, and that is wrong.
no, the win is valid without approval from any of you.
Dirk lost the ball immediately after twisting his ankle on TD's foot. TD didnt initiate any contact. Dirk initiated the contact. This is a basic rule of officials, I use it all the time to call games.
What happened in the 2004 Finals? Or was that a strategic move by the league to make it seem legit?
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