The Official Scola Thread

[jay014]

I guess you have so many things to do,you don't even have time to post because of your job and I have alot of time since I live with my parents and don't have a job but sometimes soccer practice gets in the way.



Being a die hard fan doesn't make you an analist at all dude.
Actually I don't know about Spurs history I 've only been watching since Manu joined and became a huge fan when they added Oberto,but when them traded Scola to the Rockets so them can sign Bonner for the same amount of 3 million I became very angery with the Spurs f.o. so now I cheer or the Rockets. I'm still going to keep my Ginobilis' Babe t-shirt to go with my Scolas' t-shirt.



Like I said before,While there's still a Scola thread,I'll keep sucking on it,unloading while I view his Stats and performances.
You don't really have to read them. I mean it.

[Rainman]

Timvp has thrown his lot in with the Scola lovers long ago and has a notorious track record of never giving up on his agenda.


Elson could average quint double for a season and it'll still be a flubbed rebound he hammers on.






Wins?

Whottt I've read a few of your comments and I would say you tend to be a bit of a homer and that might be an under statement. Scola is actually not just an offensive player he can do it little bit of everything except hit 3 pointers. He plays a lot like Shane Battier except as a PF. His defense is solid as he showed against Duncan and he kept Amare away from the basket the other night vs the Suns.

His rebounding is also a strenght did you see him get three or four offensive rebounds over Camby, one of the better rebounding big men in the NBA, to eventually get fouled and shoot free throws. He very active on the court so much so that he tends to slap at the ball to much and he gets into foul trouble but lately foul trouble has not been a problem for him.

Right now he's still being under utilized but if the Rockets start to look to him to score more he could easily get 15 to 20 pts most nights and about 8 to 10 boards. I would say he's better than Bonner in about 80 out of 82 games during an average NBA season.

[Harry Callahan]

I guess you have so many things to do,you don't even have time to watch BB,coze you know about it.



Being a die hard fan doesn't make you an analist at all dude.
Actually anybody here may know a litle of the spurs History,which is not the subjet here.
We are talking about actual players and actual Stats,not History.



Ok,I tell you what,since I'm so bad in English as you say I am,why don't we discuss this in ISPANISH?????
I guess you are not able to do that
So,since I'm the one speaking two lenguajes here,that makes me smarter tham you.


I'm not telling you to read , I just do what I want,and say what I want to say,easy as that.Don't like it? Don't read it.

Yeah,to get rid of Big Ass Batler, so what?
Otherwise He would've been still in Europe.




Scola> Malik, sorry to break it down to you like that.





Like I said before,While there's still a Scola thread,I'll keep posting on it,updating Stats and performances.
You don't really have to read them. I mean it.

It did not take you long to respond to my request to sit down and shut up once in awhile. You instead decided to throw out a bunch of garbage without any facts. You think your opinion is the be all and end all when it relates to basketball. Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.

Here are some actual stats from actual players for you you sorry HIJO DE PUTA (you were wrong once again, I know at least a little Spanish):

LS Career PPG (per 48 Minutes) - 17.3 Malik Rose Career PPG (per 48 Minutes) - 18

LS Career RPG (per 48 Minutes) - 12.9 Malik Rose Career RPG (per 48 Minutes) - 12

Since you are such a statistical whiz and great basketball analyst, please explain to me how LS is a better player than Malik Rose when I presented this information to you.

Did you know that Malik Rose would gamely defend players from Dirk N and Shaq O'Neal for significant stretches of time when he was a regular rotation player in SA. You are probably too stupid to realize that I was actually complementing your boy Luis. He could do a lot worse than be Malik Rose.

At least for now, statistically, Rose and Scola are essentially the same guy. That could change in time but stats are stats, right?

Argie, I know my stuff, so you really don't want to mess with me. My point of reference for Spurs basketball and NBA basketball has been lifelong and goes well before the day Manu Ginobili signed with the Spurs (which is almost certainly your point of reference regarding the NBA). I hear or see the vast majority of Spurs games.

The recent mass volume of posts from you in this thread tells me you are possibly a jobless nerd shut-in sitting in a room all day long. If I am wrong, I sincerely apoligize.

Take heart Argie, If you continue to read my posts, you will learn much more about the English language as well as NBA basketball.

Later puta.

[ArgSpursFan.]

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Later puta.

I guess,At least you learned some Spanish by listening to people calling your MOM. Good for you.

[ArgSpursFan.]

LS Career PPG (per 48 Minutes) - 17.3 Malik Rose Career PPG (per 48 Minutes) - 18

LS Career RPG (per 48 Minutes) - 12.9 Malik Rose Career RPG (per 48 Minutes) - 12

It would've been nice from you to come up with Malik Stats in his roockie year,so we can compare both players in their first year in the league,trying to get use to it and their teammantes. I guess you wont do that,coze that way you would own yourself.
But there's something that don't show in the stats sheet,and It's Fundamentals and BBIQ,and just people who played BB can actually look at .
I guess that won't be your case eather.
Listen,Asswhole,next time try to come up with some serius facts and analizis,that way you won't keep looking stupid as you are right now.
Try to google some more word in spanish next time not just one or two,that way people will actually think that you know some spanish

Later .

[jay014]

ARGSPURSFAN let it go he's gone. How old are you? Your mom, didn't you get banned for that?

[Indazone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAZYfB7AkAE

Francis to Scola, " I'm gonna make u a star"

[ArgSpursFan.]

ARGSPURSFAN let it go he's gone. How old are you? Your mom, didn't you get banned for that?

what's up Jerk!!........I mean Jay.

[Indazone]

Waiting for a Vbookie with Scola. Gotta be rebounds or pts.

[Harry Callahan]

ArgieSpur,
There was no doubt in my mind you would wake and the first thing you would do is go to the computer and get on this thread. My message did its job and woke you up.

First you call me a pussy and say I don't know . I present you with some "serius", factual statistics (since you are all about stats) regarding your boy and Malik. You didn't like what the stats I presented showed, so you change the rules.

You then say its not about the stats - its about Fundamentals and Basketball IQ. Now you say only people that played basketball (which I did growing up by the way) are the only ones capable of "serius facts and analizis".

Will your endless droning now discuss basketball IQ and fundamentals instead of the cold hard stats you post day after day? You need to decide what the deal is - stats or intangibles.

Malik Rose was not 27 years old with ten years of professional experience in his rookie year. He was a 22 year old from a small school (Drexel) who was with the Charlotte Hornets for a year before coming to the Spurs (a little history lesson there to educate you a little more). I believe it is a valid comparison between the two players. After all, you know your boy was "the best big man not in the NBA" according to a lot of people. Malik Rose has had a very nice NBA career and as I said before, it is not an insult to say LS may[I] be another Malik Rose type of player.

The rest of your post you call me an "Assehole" and a (congrats - you spelled that one right - you are making progress). You really should apply to one of the sports networks in Argentina and become a professional basketball analyst. You really threw out some insightful stuff there.

Just because I have an opinion that does not exactly match yours, you resort to calling someone filthy names. No one else, according to you, is able to provide any "serius facts and analizis". I guess you should change your user ID to "The King of Serius Basketball Facts and analizis". Oh - that name may be too long. Maybe you should be "King of Basketball".

Now, can you show me the ability to respond to my post in an intelligent, thoughtful way? C'mon, give it a try.

[ArgSpursFan.]

ArgieSpur,
There was no doubt in my mind you would wake and the first thing you would do is go to the computer and get on this thread. My message did its job and woke you up.
First you call me a pussy and say I don't know . I present you with some "serius", factual statistics (since you are all about stats) regarding your boy and Malik. You didn't like what the stats I presented showed, so you change the rules.

I never change the rules,you're comparing Scola's stats in less tham 15 games in the NBA with Malik's CARREER stats,that's ridiculous and totaly out of point.
And I wouldn't mind Scola being as good as Malik in his prime,but I just don't think they're the same type of players. that's all.Why Malik is the tipical Strong and agresive Black American type of player,Scola is the tipical Euro post player,more skilled and less athletic.
If you could take your time an watch some Rockets game,you'll see that Scola's game is not even near Malik's.
They're deferent, that's all.They're both good role players though.

You then say its not about the stats - its about Fundamentals and Basketball IQ.

Never said that,I said Scola has more tham good stats for being a roockie, wich is: Fundamentals,BBIQ ect.

Now you say only people that played basketball (which I did growing up by the way) are the only ones capable of "serius facts and analizis".

yes ,I did say that.
so if you know something about the game of BB, you would realize that Malik is more of a Physical player,and Scola is totally Deferent tham Malik.
Like I say,stats only, don't show you the whole picture on a player's profile.

I believe it is a valid comparison between the two players. After all, you know your boy was "the best big man not in the NBA" according to a lot of people. Malik Rose has had a very nice NBA career and as I said before, it is not an insult to say LS may[I] be another Malik Rose type of player.

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I always liked Malik Rose energy and strenght when playing for the Spurs. But I just don't think It's fair to compare carreer stats on Malik, with only 15 first games of Scola,who's still getting use to the NBA rules and a new team.
We could actually bring this thread back next year,and them we'll compare Scola's carreer stats with Malik's. will that be ok them?

Just because I have an opinion that does not exactly match yours, you resort to calling someone filthy names. No one else, according to you, is able to provide any "serius facts and analizis". I guess you should change your user ID to "The King of Serius Basketball Facts and analizis". Oh - that name may be too long. Maybe you should be "King of Basketball".

I'm not.But I'm not a blind homer eather.
I'm going by what I see in games and boxscores.
If you look at my posts history you will see that I never said Scola was gonna be an All Star type of player,but a very decent role player for the NBA,and that SA made a mistake by trading him for nothing,while we have the worst backup front line in the league right now(Bonner+Elson)

Now, can you show me the ability to respond to my post in an intelligent, thoughtful way? C'mon, give it a try.

Ok,fair enough.
BTW,you'll also see my post and opinions When he has a bad game too.I'm trying to be objetive here.

[jay014]

what's up Jerk!!........I mean Jay.

Whats up Scolasnutlover!!.........................I mean hijo de

[Harry Callahan]

Good response AgSpursfan. Thanks.

I get to see some Houston games. The SA game where LS made almost all his shots was obviously one that sticks out. On a day to day basis, LS will be pretty good. LS's problem regarding his numbers is that he has to compete for shots with Yao and McGrady. Most of the time those guys defer to Yao and McGrady to take shots at crunch time. The Rockets are more one on one oriented right now than the Spurs (with McGrady, James, Wells, and Alston).

I don't know if you saw Rose a lot when he was in SA and was a much better player than he is now. But he could go out there and get big numbers from time to time. To my recollection, I remember a game I think in 2004 against the Mavericks where one of our big three was injured (I think it may have even been Timmy with a sprained ankle) and Malik got 25 and 15 (or something close to that). He did develop a decent outside jump shot later in his SA tenure.

I see Scola doing those types of things on occasion - once again everything starts with Yao and McGrady down there and eveyone else has to fight for scraps.

I don't think Bonner and Elson are the worst backup bigs in the NBA. It usually takes a couple of years to really get into the flow of the Spurs system (Fabricio for example, Barry is another). I think Bonner has some really good qualities but is in a slump right now. I got to see SA vs. Portland last January in person and he was productive defensively with good energy and hustle - most importantly i recall him hitting his 3s (he must do this again to spread the floor for our star players). He was doing a good job last year before he hurt his knee. Elson is a really good athlete who is too just too inconsistent. Horry will help out in the near future and I am hopeful all three can pitch in.

As for the long term future, I just wonder if the drafting of Mahimi and (more importantly) Splitter made the FO feel better about the the long-term future of the Power Forward / Center spot because they are younger at 21 or 22 years old. If I had the ability to made the decision, I still would never have done business with Houston.

[Spurs Dynasty 21]

it's true, the Rockets are a selfish team, and you would think Tmac would have realize Scola as a scorer when he was out, but he's a gunner and always will be



Scola being so unselfish would have been perfect with the Spurs

[Indazone]

T-Mac is a gunner and so is Kobe and Michael Redd. When you got someone who is that talented, you give them the ball. Scola will have to pick up his points the same way David Lee does in NY. Putbacks and rebounds.

[ArgSpursFan.]

Good response AgSpursfan. Thanks.

I get to see some Houston games. The SA game where LS made almost all his shots was obviously one that sticks out. On a day to day basis, LS will be pretty good. LS's problem regarding his numbers is that he has to compete for shots with Yao and McGrady. Most of the time those guys defer to Yao and McGrady to take shots at crunch time. The Rockets are more one on one oriented right now than the Spurs (with McGrady, James, Wells, and Alston).

I see what you're saying Harry Callahan, and I know it will be tough for Scola to get a chance to be a 15 ppg guy in Houston with Yao and T-mac in the same team, but I also think that this ussue will help him out in the long run
Here's why: Scola was always the main man in most of the teams he played for so far. Now that He has to play with Monsters like T-Mac Francis Yao ect, He will have to focus more on the other things, like: Rebounding,Defense,Setting good screems for his teammates, getting Offensive boards to get a second option etc.
There's something that most of the Argies players in the NBA have in commun,and that is:they're smart, team players,not selfish at all,hard workers on games and practices,and most important:they play with passion and have a big heart. that's why I don't think Scola will have a problem at all with getting less chances to score,but when given the ball He´ll make the best of it.

I don't know if you saw Rose a lot when he was in SA and was a much better player than he is now. But he could go out there and get big numbers from time to time. To my recollection, I remember a game I think in 2004 against the Mavericks where one of our big three was injured (I think it may have even been Timmy with a sprained ankle) and Malik got 25 and 15 (or something close to that). He did develop a decent outside jump shot later in his SA tenure.

I always liked Malik Rose when playing in SA,Like I said before. I like people who are Humble and play with passion. I just don't see they're the same(with Scola)Eventhough I believe Scola will end up with about the same carreer stats as Malik's in the NBA(or maybe just a little better numbers in PPG)
But they are Diferent as far as skills and Strenght.
While Rose is or was more physical and strong,with a real big body and weight to play inside and use his body,Scola is more about foot work, great passer,and he moves and finds the right spots in order to get an easy basket.He also sets good screems and his mid range jumper off the pick and role is pretty effective.

I see Scola doing those types of things on occasion - once again everything starts with Yao and McGrady down there and eveyone else has to fight for scraps.

I don't think Scola has a problem with Things starting with Yao and T-mac at all.Like I say before,as long as he keeps moving around and setting screems for his teammates ,given the ball He'll make the best of it.

I don't think Bonner and Elson are the worst backup bigs in the NBA. It usually takes a couple of years to really get into the flow of the Spurs system (Fabricio for example, Barry is another). I think Bonner has some really good qualities but is in a slump right now. I got to see SA vs. Portland last January in person and he was productive defensively with good energy and hustle - most importantly i recall him hitting his 3s (he must do this again to spread the floor for our star players). He was doing a good job last year before he hurt his knee. Elson is a really good athlete who is too just too inconsistent. Horry will help out in the near future and I am hopeful all three can pitch in.

As far as Bonner and Elson, I stand by my thoughts.
I do understand that players need time to get used to Pop's system,but I just don't like what I see individually speaking.I'm talking about body lenguaje and fundamentals in general,but most important I don't see enough BBIQ in any of them,to succed in the NBA.
I give you Bonner's 3 pts range. But I just don't see a PF making a pay check just out of it,there has to be more, Coze even Horry on his prime was more tham a 3 pts shooter,and we know that.

As for the long term future, I just wonder if the drafting of Mahimi and (more importantly) Splitter made the FO feel better about the the long-term future of the Power Forward / Center spot because they are younger at 21 or 22 years old. If I had the ability to made the decision, I still would never have done business with Houston.

Splitter with be a very good NBA player,there's no doubt in my mind he will be, I see him being a 15/10 guy easily. As far as Mahinmi,time will tell. He's got the body to succeed in the NBA, but I just don't think He's got the mind to do it.
We´ll see what happens


BTW, Thanx for your response

[mystargtr34]

ArgScolaFan glued to the Rockets Kings match

[CubanMustGo]

T-mac is back ... 29 shots for him so far, one for Scola.

[TDMVPDPOY]

beno looms

how come scola gets his own thread?

[Indazone]

I freaking hate Beno!!!

[meta2007]

Why didn't rockets get Beno???

I freaking hate Beno!!!

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The chokerics just chocked again!

[whottt]

Beno>Scola

[DOMINATOR]

Beno>Scola

refs+random scrub > yao

[mystargtr34]

Wow the Rockets have really lost their defensive edge... no one else is stepping up