Vassilis Spanoulis Thread

[td4mvp21]

Spanoulis ing sucks.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

This is a much better highlight video you put together. Not so many misses on shots. Good D and excellent passing. But that's what highlight vids are for.

Now, can you address the salary requirement issue I brought up previously? I don't think the Spurs will be willing to pay him the 4.5 million you say he wants--and you believe he is worth. A backup PG without strong NBA experience is simply not going to get that kind of salary from the Spurs.

If he wants back in the NBA, then he'll be in touch. Then the Spurs will have to make an evaluation and let him know if they want him at that price. Sometimes a player's ideas of his worth and a team's evaluation of him on their team and system are deal breakers.

He want know before sign with Spurs team if he have REAL fan like in Panathinaikos or just stupid popcorn NBA fan of Spurs to. He think maybe Spur fan different because they have good foreign player and have champions team. But so far he see same type of fan as Rocket have fan that have no knowledges of the good and proper basketball from how the peoples talk here. he wonder how fan can see player such as Manu and T-Mac play and still have the zero knowledges of how basketball is. He NOT make same mistake before. he have spend many times now investigates Popovich and Buford and wants also learn of fans to. This only so he sure they REAL team not joke like Rocket were only then can he take less money than his worth in Europe. Because with Rocket he take the less money then first time arrives Van Gundy tells him "bench all year like all other crap rookie."

You be mad too if take 1/3 money for such coach after same coach promise on phone you be 20-25 minute each game and this only reason you agree then to takes less money. Then fan take coach side and make fun of Billy when coach MAKES UP LIES he say "I T-Mac of Greece" when he never say such thing then coach go on radio and make fun of his accent and make fun of Greece and they have no toilet and no water in homes and play game in barns and such and pay player in goats and cheese so Billy should "shut up and be happy and stop about play time because he now have bathroom in home". Billy upset by it and coach say "dog house all year" Houston fan pick on him not coach for such antic always Van Gundy must be saint or something. Billy think people in Houston very poor classes to be tell such thing by coach on radio and think it "cool" and make fun of Greece and Greek people like such. He wonder how so many people can be so stupid and pathetic all over like in Houston there.

Billy now must first learn about Spurs before make such mistake again to be stuck with loser type team and coach like he gets before. And make sure there not be same stupid and worthless type fan because he rather then give the basketball to real fans of Panathinaikos. You Amerikan say such thing make him "pussy" and "cry baby" you liars. I like see how Amerikan feel if such happen to them get job in as.

[Indazone]

I don't care if it's Kobe or Arenas, repeated posts about one player are going to get flamed. So you can't make a judgement call about Spurs fans. What you can say is that if Vassilis came to San Antonio, the reception would be different than what you see on this board. First the city and fans would welcome him. Judgement about play is reserved for later.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

which nba teams were those again?

again, please go now. we are done here.

These NBA teams yes??

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2JxYa3QqBYo

against them more good reason to believe van Gundy lies yes? Not like he show any ability for NBA this game either? Guess fan here all right he never do ANYTHING NBA he just same as college rookie

Guess this another magic fantasy clip?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I don't care if it's Kobe or Arenas, repeated posts about one player are going to get flamed. So you can't make a judgement call about Spurs fans. What you can say is that if Vassilis came to San Antonio, the reception would be different than what you see on this board. First the city and fans would welcome him. Judgement about play is reserved for later.

But he afraid now that after what happen from van Gundy that fan believe ANYTHING even if all LIES be said by coach. he be told by Parker who he play since they 17 that Popovich not like this and is great friend to players with passion of game and heart just like Billy but he still keep thinking that ALL Houston fan almost believe all thing Van Gundy say even though he treats player like craps and even though Yao ask owner to fire him STILL he see almost ALL Houston fan believe he not play because "he must not have try at practice" he tell me he laugh so hard at such craziness if it not still make him so angry.

He just not take anything any Amerikan team tell him now without try find out for sure. This why he could not trust Adelman. Adelman have tell him bring his mom and brother over and he will work with him and family problems and Peja who his friend from Greek league also tell him Adelman great man and player coach and he treat foreign player with respect not like Van Gundy who Peja tell him known by all foreign player as some coach that hate Euro player. But evemn though he get such assurance he decide NOT to trust Adelman just because he so mad at Van Gundy be allowed get away with his actions. He still not get why Lindsey and Dawson let Van Gundy run team and same with Rocket owner. When he see Rocket owner tell press he fire him for not playing Spanoulis and not playing normal offense he just not understand. He just say "why he only say this NOW? Why he only say to me and why Dawson and Linsdey keep tells me we want van Gundy fire and you be point guard but keep letting Van Gundy do same thing?

He still not get why they refuse tell fans and reporters stop saying crap lies about him from things coach said which all be lies. He decide he cannot trust Adelman so he stay in Greece and help his family there. Then he get trade Spurs and he decide cannot trust them either before he study them. Otherwise he could have stay there and bring mom over and Spurs willing to make time for him for leave for games until she improve. But final he say "how I trust any Amerikan after be lied to every time they open mouth?"


I guess way Rocket and Spur fan talk they also believe Kobe "crazy pussy" because he mad Laker owner and GM lie to him?

[jay014]

He might be great in your eyes dumbass, besides he didn't want to play in the NBA that's why the Spurs traded for him and to grant Scola his dream to play in the NBA and to save money(4 million).otherwise Scola would be playing overseas in euroleague.Why haven't you left?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

He might be great in your eyes dumbass, besides he didn't want to play in the NBA that's why the Spurs traded for him and to grant Scola his dream to play in the NBA and to save money(4 million).otherwise Scola would be playing overseas in euroleague.Why haven't you left?

also you wrong:

again you call Popovich liar then

Since Spur fan believe I lie and Spur not want Spanoulis explain to me how they think coach tell lie then?

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...en.39e9f7b.html

Missing Vassilis: Popovich says he wishes Vassilis Spanoulis, now a guard for Panathinaikos, would have stayed in the States.

Spanoulis, traded to the Spurs in the offseason as part of the Luis Scola deal, was waived in early July after he made it clear he had no intention of remaining in the NBA.

"He had a great chance to be a backup on our team," Popovich said. "I was disappointed when he said he didn't want to play in the NBA anymore. I didn't even get to talk to him about it. Not one word."


This before Spanoulis demand trade and after this remember Parker be ask by Popovich to talk to him throughs Parker and asks him stay remember I prove this before with posts here and link to story. So Spur fan then if what say true they believe Spur not want Spanoulis they call Popovich liar. Guess no fan here like deal with facts.


This kind of fan he used to in as with Panathinaikos





He come from place where basketball fan are true and real fan. Why Amerikan not understand why he disapoint with what he see in Houston? He play for coach Giannakis in Marousi and national team and coach Obradovic in Panathinaikos everyone know these top 5 coaches in world. These coaches that Popovich ask for knowledge from and try to learn from. These coach believe he best player they ever see. Then he get coach Van Gundy who turn out be nut moron coach and have somehow got image that he "good coach"

You play for such fans and coach like Obradovic then see how you treat by Houston fan and coach you realize NBA have some very stupid people. Houston fan he say not even bother go to game or if do not really even care. Coach have to PAY fans to cheer. This like sad pathetic joke to as fans.

And he know he play for coach Obradovic who knowns around world as probale best coach in world and he say he best player he sees and then great van Gundy who cannot not keep from get himself fired believe he know all and cannot use player that not have game that only = stand still at 3 point line? But this coach really believe Alston great point guard. Remember he say in playoffs "Rafer Alston great point guard and of a good player."

I sorry but I doubt Popovich be say such thing. And this same coach admit he "suprise" he fired? Is he crazy or re ? But seem most Amerikan fan have such poor logics they not even see how such thing strange. They only come up with stupid things like "guess Spanoulis is a pussy then."

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Dude no one wants Vag. Get that through your ing head.

[ss1986v2]

Golden St Warriors NBA team yes??

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bGrbtxiZSHM

against them more good reason to believe van Gundy lies yes? Not like he show any ability for NBA this game either? Guess fan here all right he never do ANYTHING NBA he just same as college rookie

Guess this another magic fantasy clip?

what the was that? a yao ming highlight show? i saw vagisil playing scrubs minutes in the 4th during a blowout. he had two layups and maybe a steal. yeah, sure looked like steve nash to me.

and again, why are you still here. you said you would leave if we still didnt give a crap. we dont. leave. you bring nothing new to the table.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

what the was that? a yao ming highlight show? i saw vagisil playing scrubs minutes in the 4th during a blowout. he had two layups and maybe a steal. yeah, sure looked like steve nash to me.

and again, why are you still here. you said you would leave if we still didnt give a crap. we dont. leave. you bring nothing new to the table.

1. Rocket owner compare him to Nash

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice...s_in_0708.html

I think it was Les Alexander who once compared Spanoulis to Steve Nash. That's an exaggeration, but as the Rockets prepare for '07-'08, Spanoulis is one of the intriguing possibilities.

2. Yao compare him to Nash

http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/Rock...192279-34.html

ROCKETS CENTER YAO MING

(on the play of Vassilis Spanoulis) "He's great. He can see the court. He's little and people say that because he's little, he can't see the court, but he can. He always makes the right decision to pass to the right people in the right position and his passes are right on target. Given time, I think he will be like Steve Nash one day."

3. People with the low bball IQ such as Van Gundy get fired by peoples above for benching of Greek Nash

4. Fans that believe the Van Gundy and think Spanoulis "suck" also have no basketball knowledges

[jay014]

also you wrong:

again you call Popovich liar then

Since Spur fan believe I lie and Spur not want Spanoulis explain to me how they think coach tell lie then?

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...en.39e9f7b.html

Missing Vassilis: Popovich says he wishes Vassilis Spanoulis, now a guard for Panathinaikos, would have stayed in the States.

Spanoulis, traded to the Spurs in the offseason as part of the Luis Scola deal, was waived in early July after he made it clear he had no intention of remaining in the NBA.

"He had a great chance to be a backup on our team," Popovich said. "I was disappointed when he said he didn't want to play in the NBA anymore. I didn't even get to talk to him about it. Not one word."


This before Spanoulis demand trade and after this remember Parker be ask by Popovich to talk to him throughs Parker and asks him stay remember I prove this before with posts here and link to story. So Spur fan then if what say true they believe Spur not want Spanoulis they call Popovich liar. Guess no fan here like deal with facts.

This kind of fan he used to in as with Panathinaikos

."

Put yourself in Pops shoes when you got reporters and camermamen asking you about Spanoulis what are you going to say? I'm happy he's not going to play in the NBA he's going to save us a ton of money. How's that going to look to other free agents."I didn't even get to talk to him about it. Not one word" coming from a coach that went to Slovenia to talk with Rasho about being their starting center what does that tell you? He had no intention of Spanoulis joining the Spurs.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Put yourself in Pops shoes when you got reporters and camermamen asking you about Spanoulis what are you going to say? I'm happy he's not going to play in the NBA he's going to save us a ton of money. How's that going to look to other free agents."I didn't even get to talk to him about it. Not one word" coming from a coach that went to Slovenia to talk with Rasho about being their starting center what does that tell you? He had no intention of Spanoulis joining the Spurs.

So the story from parker asking Spanoulis to play on Spurs because of Buford and Popovich ask him also lie? Guess you change story any way you can? You sound like President 25 different reason for Iraq war.

Guess Parker have dinner with Spanoulis and ask him please stay from Buford and Pop just for lack of any other things do?

[jay014]

Maybe you can have dinner with Spanoulis and shove his down your throat you ing idiot.

[ss1986v2]

yeah, yeah, we know. whatever. we still dont care. so why are you still here?

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

yeah, yeah, we know. whatever. we still dont care. so why are you still here?

You do understands Manu my 3rd favorite player and Spurs my favorite NBA team yes?

[wildbill2u]

Bill said, "Billy now must first learn about Spurs before make such mistake again to be stuck with loser type team and coach like he gets before. And make sure there not be same stupid and worthless type fan because he rather then give the basketball to real fans of Panathinaikos. You Amerikan say such thing make him "pussy" and "cry baby" you liars. I like see how Amerikan feel if such happen to them get job in as"

Fine. I agree with you that some fans here are rude and name callers, but you are a little obsessive about Spanoulis. It doesn't do any good to rant about fans or about how Van Gundy and the Rockets didn't treat him right.

No one here cares. It is not our problem. And Spanoulis better get over it if he wants to come back to the NBA with any team, not just the Spurs.

But let's look at the bottom line: Money. I asked you before about his bottom line on salary. If he insists on getting $4.5 million, it won't be from the Spurs. We are a small market team with a three expensive All-stars in Duncan, Parker and Manu. There isn't going to be any room for a backup PG at Spanoulis's price.

So maybe you need to start shopping those videos around at some other team's fan websites. The Spurs are really pretty good about letting players who don't fit in here go to other teams. Ask Louis Scola.

[Ariel]

You do understands Manu my 3rd favorite player and Spurs my favorite NBA team yes?

Like you, I'm an international poster myself. And on top of being a Spurs fan, I also root for some my favorite players and want them to do well. So of course I get why you'd like to see your favorite basketball player on your favorite NBA team. Makes perfect sense. However, while I understand part of your motives, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here. The thing is, your barking up the wrong tree.

It's Spanoulis who fled back to Greece in desperation, not the Spurs or their fans who turned him down. He even said that he wouldn't stay in the NBA even if the Spurs offered him a starting place, that it was a serious matter that far surpassed basketball, and that he could not live in the US under any cir stance. Those sound like pretty strong words to me.

So in summary, it's not us you need to convince. If Billy "tells" you things, like you keep saying, then you'll be better served "telling" Billy your arguments. Until then, relax and, every now and then, engage in different Spurs related discussions. You know, the kind that don't involve Spanoulis. Like say... ANY Spurs discussion... alright?

[anakha]

If Fan Here Say They Not Want Such PG I Will Leave

Well, KBP? Why are you still here then? Hasn't the response been loud enough for you?

[ss1986v2]

You do understands Manu my 3rd favorite player and Spurs my favorite NBA team yes?

that has nothing to do with the matter at hand. you said:

If Fan Here Say They Not Want Such PG I Will Leave

well, "we not want". for the 1,437th time, "we not want". actually, we simply dont care. so please, leave.

at the very least, stop talking about vagisil. this is a spurs board, not a vagisil board. if you want to take part in relevant spurs related topics, go for it. i, and most everyone here, would encourage it. but you dont. all you ever talk about here is vagisil. and for the 1,438th time, "we not want" and we dont care. so either leave, or move on.

[Extra Stout]

You be mad too if take 1/3 money for such coach after same coach promise on phone you be 20-25 minute each game and this only reason you agree then to takes less money. Then fan take coach side and make fun of Billy when coach MAKES UP LIES he say "I T-Mac of Greece" when he never say such thing then coach go on radio and make fun of his accent and make fun of Greece and they have no toilet and no water in homes and play game in barns and such and pay player in goats and cheese so Billy should "shut up and be happy and stop about play time because he now have bathroom in home". Billy upset by it and coach say "dog house all year" Houston fan pick on him not coach for such antic always Van Gundy must be saint or something. Billy think people in Houston very poor classes to be tell such thing by coach on radio and think it "cool" and make fun of Greece and Greek people like such. He wonder how so many people can be so stupid and pathetic all over like in Houston there.

I live in Houston, and am fairly familiar with the Spanakopitas saga, which is to say there wasn't one. Everything you are claiming Van Gundy said you have fabricated. If Van Gundy actually had said that to the media, the several thousand Greeks in Houston would have gone ballistic. The only thing that was mentioned was that Spanakopitas was ineffective, and that Van Gundy was displeased with his refusal to adjust his style of play to the NBA, to which Spanakopitas would just shrug his shoulders and flippantly say, "Basketball is basketball."

You are some kind of sick demon-possessed pathological liar obsessed with a player nobody else cares about. That, or you are a troll of unequaled complexity and brilliance, like something Andy Kaufman might come up with. If the former is true, the Greek authorities need to get you into some kind of sanitorium. If the latter, then bravo.

[Dex]

Your point guard isn't good enough for the NBA.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I live in Houston, and am fairly familiar with the Spanakopitas saga, which is to say there wasn't one. Everything you are claiming Van Gundy said you have fabricated. If Van Gundy actually had said that to the media, the several thousand Greeks in Houston would have gone ballistic. The only thing that was mentioned was that Spanakopitas was ineffective, and that Van Gundy was displeased with his refusal to adjust his style of play to the NBA, to which Spanakopitas would just shrug his shoulders and flippantly say, "Basketball is basketball."

You are some kind of sick demon-possessed pathological liar obsessed with a player nobody else cares about. That, or you are a troll of unequaled complexity and brilliance, like something Andy Kaufman might come up with. If the former is true, the Greek authorities need to get you into some kind of sanitorium. If the latter, then bravo.

This lie. Spanoulis NEVER say "I T-Mac of Greece" radio people say to Van Gundy "Spanoulis say he T-Mac of Greece" then Van Gundy make fun of him and Greece and accent. Then he start repeat over and over LIE that Billy say "T-mac of Greece". And stupid fan keep says it over and over.

You not know this happen then fine but not act like it not true because thing happen. Van Gundy especially make comment about in Greece they play basketball in barn so how can they know basketball. He make many such comment. And you act like Greek people be after him? Why? Most the Greekl in Houston AMERIKAN not from as. And most Greek in Amerika HATE Billy. He tell me many time how much hate in the mail he get from the Amerikan Greek about he is "pussy" and "whiner" and "crys baby" and all the same craps.

But these people never have even try find out truth. On clutchfans site they ALL still believe every word Van Gundy make up which was ALL lies. Billy never say such things and coach make him look foolish. Remember coach make up lie about "his mommy call the team and beg us let her Billy be OK"

The fan of Houston and reporter of Houston attack him for MONTHS over this thing but problem Billy mom NEVER call Rockets it LIE made up by coach.

I guesses you just exact typical like other fan from Houston.

[jay014]

[Mister Sinister]

This lie. Spanoulis NEVER say "I T-Mac of Greece" radio people say to Van Gundy "Spanoulis say he T-Mac of Greece" then Van Gundy make fun of him and Greece and accent. Then he start repeat over and over LIE that Billy say "T-mac of Greece". And stupid fan keep says it over and over.

You not know this happen then fine but not act like it not true because thing happen. Van Gundy especially make comment about in Greece they play basketball in barn so how can they know basketball. He make many such comment. And you act like Greek people be after him? Why? Most the Greekl in Houston AMERIKAN not from as. And most Greek in Amerika HATE Billy. He tell me many time how much hate in the mail he get from the Amerikan Greek about he is "pussy" and "whiner" and "crys baby" and all the same craps.

But these people never have even try find out truth. On clutchfans site they ALL still believe every word Van Gundy make up which was ALL lies. Billy never say such things and coach make him look foolish. Remember coach make up lie about "his mommy call the team and beg us let her Billy be OK"

The fan of Houston and reporter of Houston attack him for MONTHS over this thing but problem Billy mom NEVER call Rockets it LIE made up by coach.

I guesses you just exact typical like other fan from Houston.

[Darkwaters]

Maybe you can have dinner with Spanoulis and shove his down your throat you ing idiot.

I don't care how much you dislike this guy, don't say like that. Have a little decency and stop impersonating Suns fans.