If the Sonics waive Barry, as expected, before March 1, the veteran guard likely won’t be hurting for suitors provided he proves he’s healthy. Golden State and Phoenix, among other teams, would probably have interest in signing him.
via Johnny Ludden
Barry comes back if that happens.If the Sonics waive Barry, as expected, before March 1, the veteran guard likely won’t be hurting for suitors provided he proves he’s healthy. Golden State and Phoenix, among other teams, would probably have interest in signing him.
Gauranteed Pop said "If your waived, we would love to have you back *wink wink*"
Great. I'm not going to sleep well for two weeks.
Sounds like Thomas won't play till at least saturday.
Coming in for a physical. Probobly done tommarow.
Hopefully he can play saturday. Spurs could use him vs a tough Hornets team.
Excellent move!!! CONGRATS!!! BARRY WAS HURT, HURT, AND HURT this year - he could NEVER be the same as last year...GOOD MOVE!!!
BYE BRENT, WE LOVE YAA!!!
GO SPURS!!!
Good trade. I only don't like that he's 35.
@ RC Buford.
"Ron Artest's name has never left my lips in trade conversation"
For some reason that seemed very un FBI, and very "I like him NOT"
I don't understand the hesitancy on this trade. The Spurs finally acquire a legitimate name off a trade and now reservations are rampant.
My takes:
1. What is the big deal about a late first round pick? The Spurs rarely keep any of them (exception Parker) and hate spending the guaranteed money on them. Unless there's another TP out there to be had at 25 I don't see the problem with trading the 25th pick.
2. It's true Thomas can only log major minutes against teams that play big (namely Lakers and Suns), but those are also the same two teams the road to the finals goes through. So it only makes sense to prepare for playing those two teams because if you can't beat them, you're not winning the championship anyways.
3. Brent Barry had some good run here and finally started to understand he needed to shoot, but the guy was a wounded duck. He may have stayed injured or just become reinjured later. Plus, the Spurs have Finley, Bowen, Ginobili, and Udoka. If there was any team that could replace a healthy Brent Barry, it's the Spurs. Plus, if the Spurs really want him back, there's still a good chance he returns after 30 days.
4. If the Spurs need to play small ball, just sit Thomas and play Horry or go smaller at the 4. Elson had gazelle like speed but that's about it. His lack of basketball intelligence made him more of a liability than an asset and the Spurs wouldn't have used him extensively anyways. He made so many mental mistakes he was virtually unplayable in crunch time.
5. If Duncan gets in foul trouble, the Spurs still have a good post defender/rebounder outside of Horry to fall back to. With the Amare/Shaq and Bynum/Gasol combos if the Spurs didn't get another post defender, they wouldn't have had enough depth at center and Duncan wouldn't get enough rest and Horry would be overplayed. Also, Duncan doesn't play well with foul trouble and conceeds just about everything around the rim.
6. Grabbing KT means other teams don't get him. A nightmare scenario would be the Mavs grabbing him since he plays great defense on Duncan. Also, if the Suns or Lakers bolstered there backup position with him, they could just rotate a fresh big man on Duncan the whole game and wear him out.
7. Admittedly Barry's experience and shooting will be missed should he have been able to return, but with the stockpile of quality SGs/SFs the Spurs have now vs. quality big men, the Spurs needed Thomas more than they did Barry. It would be great if the Spurs could have got something for nothing (or if it turns out that way) but usually in a trade you have to give to get (whether it's to match salary or talent) so the Spurs won out in this exchange.
8. Along the same lines, there's risk in most trades that exchanges key players so that is something to be said for the naysayers. Then again, I don't think the Spurs were going to make it through the West's post gauntlet with just Tim, Oberto, and Horry so if you believe that then there wasn't that much risk.
I give a lot of credit to the front office for pulling this move and not standing pat while two of the three best teams acquire major post players. They went out and acquired a great post defender and rebounder who can shoot the mid range jumper while giving up an injured player at the overcrowded wing spot, a center who was too much of a liability to play crucial minutes, and a draft pick they were probably going to trade anyways.
8.
"Ron Artest's name has never left my lips in trade conversation"
For some reason that seemed very un FBI, and very "I like him NOT"
Why does Don Harris make a ing comment about the Spurs staff making comments about Ron Artest? after RC answered the question...
WTF?
Well put Jackseven
Good to see you back
Can someone inform me on how it works if Seattle doesn't sign Brent Barry..... all i know is there is a chance we could get him back but how does that work someone please inform me ......
Had to post that. Was shocked to see TIMVP's response + others posting similar sentiments.Well put Jackseven
Good to see you back
Maybe I'll be a Spurs fan now that they mean business.
DON'T BE STUPID, what kind of 1st round pick you would get next year if we are a Top team??? Pop is Buford are SMART to pick the BEST Players even in lower picks...Manu was Number 58, remember??? Thomas give us a chance again to win it ALL!!!
BEST!!!
Great Trade.
Spurs: 2008-2009 NBA Champs!
I agree, Timvp's response was quite the headscratcher.
Agreed. The Spurs have to play for now and squeeze as many championships out of Duncan as they can before the well runs dry. A first round draft pick in the Spurs system takes a long time to cultivate and the chances are very slim they'll actually retain the player anyways.
Try not to be stupid...
You and I both know the Spurs wouldn't have drafted him had they kept that pick.
Barbosa? A low IQ guy who stiffs in the playoffs?
What makes anyone think the Spurs would have drafted either of those guys?
Try not to be stupid...
The Spurs are hit and miss with the draft.
The Spurs passed on David Lee to draft Ian Mahinmi.
Try not to be stupid yourself. It's not like there's a Barbosa or Lee around every corner and even if there is a diamond in the rough, the draft is still a low percentage guessing game where most teams end up being wrong.
Try not to be stupid...
T Park you sound like a smart guy so i have to ask you something.. Now that Barry is gone and Seattle is not expected to sign Brent what happens next can he just wait 30 days and come right back here or does he have to go to another team if they sign him. Does he have a choice or what? Please inform me i would like to see him back
If Barry is bought out, he is a free agent and can sign with the team of his choice.
Ok, everyone here has to know that the spurs WANTED to get rid of that pick right? If we make that pick, we have to sign the pick to a contract that will count against our 2010 cap. THat is the offseason that we will have a lot of money for big free agent signings. we have been trying to get rid of it for a while now.
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