Flynn in major trouble for speaking to Russia about sanctions

[Ball Buster]

[Winehole23]

she uncovered evidence that the FBI and the CIA were publicly claiming widespread Russian tampering and hacking by the Russians. While privately among themselves were expressing doubts about the Russians intent and ability to rig an U.S. election.

I don't see the two as being mutually exclusive, do you?

surely it's overkill to suggest there were zero Russian attempts to influence Trump or the reverse

[Ball Buster]

I don't see the two as being mutually exclusive, do you?

surely it's overkill to suggest there were zero Russian attempts to influence Trump or the reverse

interesting.

can you think of any other countries that influence our elections?

[Winehole23]

short of overt corruption and election tampering, there's room for considerable mischief

I think it's ok for people to make up their own minds about the trustworthiness of their representatives well short of legally provable crimes and for the media to report on it, don't you?

[Winehole23]

interesting.

can you think of any other countries that influence our elections?

probably all of them in some way or another

do you have a point, or were you just clearing your throat?

[Winehole23]

suggesting that the other side's propaganda is treason and that reporting on it is treason is just sore loser right wingers complaining that free speech didn't always go their way

in an election Trump won

[Ball Buster]

probably all of them in some way or another

do you have a point, or were you just clearing your throat?

You are concerned about Russian interference. Even though it’s a conspiracy theory that’s been debunked.

Yet, you are unbothered by this …

















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[Winehole23]

Yes, Israel is very influential in the USA

Not sure why you assume my opinion about that, it's free to ask and my forum posts are searchable

[Winehole23]

And I guess you weren't paying attention to my pattern of posting here

I never was a Russia collusion guy, I never found that convincing, but that doesn’t mean there was nothing at all there

[Winehole23]

Even less convincing to me is the conspiracy theory that the plot against Trump was kept under wraps, just in case he won.

[Ball Buster]

Trump wouldn't be covering his ass so carefully if he didn't have something -- in all likelihood, a lot of things -- to hide.

I seem to remember you making quite a few posts like this. Not a full blown Russia-gater, but somewhere in the “where there’s smoke there’s fire “ camp.

[Winehole23]

I seem to remember you making quite a few posts like this. Not a full blown Russia-gater, but somewhere in the “where there’s smoke there’s fire “ camp.

I think the Mueller Report bore that out.

Of course this is very all quaint now with China and various foreign billionaires openly stuffing Trump's pockets with crypto cash.

[ChumpDumper]

she uncovered evidence that the FBI and the CIA were publicly claiming widespread Russian tampering and hacking by the Russians. While privately among themselves were expressing doubts about the Russians intent and ability to rig an U.S. election.

The initial evaluations were about tampering directly with election infrastructure.

The following evaluations were about hacking servers and accounts of Democrats.

Even the most cursory reading of the tweetstorm shows these are two different things.

Are you smart enough to know these are two different things?

[Spurs Homer]

those russians got hillary installed as president...oh no -wait!

hahahahahahahahahaha!

what kind of a scandal is this anyway?


oh yeah - epstein panic....

[ChumpDumper]

those russians got hillary installed as president...oh no -wait!

hahahahahahahahahaha!

what kind of a scandal is this anyway?


oh yeah - epstein panic....

if this is the best they can do to distract from the Epstein fiasco -- Epstein is going to be top of mind for the foreseeable future.

Just release the files. What are you afraid of, Trump s?

[Spurs Homer]

if this is the best they can do to distract from the Epstein fiasco -- Epstein is going to be top of mind for the foreseeable future.

Just release the files. What are you afraid of, Trump s?

its a waste of time -

im calling it now -

leaks will happen and confirm 1000 percent trump pedophilia and....

the cult and the right wing propagandists will create another alternate reality where trump is actually a savior who fooled the libs into thinking pedophilia is actually a crime...

and his assaults were just messianic acts of sacrifice to save the usa and .....MAGA!

[ChumpDumper]

I just can't believe how poorly thought-out this whole gambit was.

Voting machines <> DNC servers is the biggest and easiest up to spot.

The fun part is that the current FBI director and Joltin' John Durham had already reviewed all of this material for years and didn't come to these idiotic conclusions.

Probably because they're lawyers who know that's not how anything works.

Rubes like TSAnon fell for it though. As always.

[Winehole23]

I think the Mueller Report bore that out.

Of course this is very all quaint now with China and various foreign billionaires openly stuffing Trump's pockets with crypto cash.

oddly, no one has replied to this

isn't it obvious?

[Ball Buster]

The initial evaluations were about tampering directly with election infrastructure.

The following evaluations were about hacking servers and accounts of Democrats.

Even the most cursory reading of the tweetstorm shows these are two different things.

Are you smart enough to know these are two different things?

All of the evaluations were proven false. The FBI lied about Russia gate, the CIA lied about Russia gate, the news media continues to lie about Russia gate, and you still are dumb enough to believe Russia gate was real. Take your debate class hair-splitting, and shove it up your ass .

[Ball Buster]

oddly, no one has replied to this

isn't it obvious?

the Mueller investigation didn’t “prove “anything. Instead it was a political gift to Donald Trump after the no collusion finding

[ChumpDumper]

All of the evaluations were proven false.

Nope.

Mueller Report.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[ChumpDumper]

Mueller sure didn't say Seth Rich did it.

[Winehole23]

the Mueller investigation didn’t “prove “anything. Instead it was a political gift to Donald Trump after the no collusion finding

I didn't claim they proved anything but you missed the point -- current crypto corruption, mass impoundment and blatant top down censorship of the public sphere.

[Winehole23]

the Mueller investigation didn’t “prove “anything. Instead it was a political gift to Donald Trump after the no collusion finding

that's a superficial take, tbh

the lack of legally provable crimes is not an exoneration. DJT is shady as , always has been.

a person like Donald Trump is supposed to get weeded out in our system of government -- he's not fit for public service

[TSA]