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    Having a player playing for his NT in the summer is always a plus for NBA franchises.

    No idea why there are still so many clichés and misconceptions about it in 2025 tbh...

    The NBA break is way too long and playing with the NT keep them not only in shape and game condition but also getting better for the youngest of them.

    It raises their BBIQ bc they're forced to adapt to diff rules that aren't "comfortable" for anyone playing NBA basketball for so long and also humbled by unknown players, also a plus.

    In the end, players will train and play pickup games anyway, which brings the same type of risk of injury.

    Spurs fans should want Wemby to play with France this summer after being inactive for so long.

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    Has anything been reported in the French media that we may not have heard? Then again, probably not as someone here or reddit would have posted it already.

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    Assuming the surgery he had was the one to free up the area where the DVT occurred (shoulder), that was always the ideal/expected course of action to treat this. The YouTube doctors were saying to expect that procedure to happen in the near future as well. If team France weren’t playing this summer, this still would have been the remedy used to hopefully prevent this from reoccurring.
    I'm not him and he's free to do whatever he wants tbh.

    It's been, what? 7 weeks maybe. Blood thinners are the least invasive, least risk, etc. If in May or June, there wasn't substantial progress; then yes of course surgery would be an option.

    I dunno, just seems weird in regards to the Spurs.

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    Having a player playing for his NT in the summer is always a plus for NBA franchises.

    No idea why there are still so many clichés and misconceptions about it in 2025 tbh...

    The NBA break is way too long and playing with the NT keep them not only in shape and game condition but also getting better for the youngest of them.

    It raises their BBIQ bc they're forced to adapt to diff rules that aren't "comfortable" for anyone playing NBA basketball for so long and also humbled by unknown players, also a plus.

    In the end, players will train and play pickup games anyway, which brings the same type of risk of injury.

    Spurs fans should want Wemby to play with France this summer after being inactive for so long.
    You're not an old school Spurs fan so I don't blame you for not knowing this, but David Robinson screwed his back up in the 96 Olympics and was never the same player again. He went from being a better Giannis to maybe a top 10-15 player from that injury and it caused him the rest of his career. I remember because of that injury he had to miss playoff games in 02 because it caused him to lose feeling in his legs. So Spurs fans will always be worried about injuries in international play losing the prime of the second best player the franchise has ever had.

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    I'm not him and he's free to do whatever he wants tbh.

    It's been, what? 7 weeks maybe. Blood thinners are the least invasive, least risk, etc. If in May or June, there wasn't substantial progress; then yes of course surgery would be an option.

    I dunno, just seems weird in regards to the Spurs.
    My (very limited) understanding was that going on blood thinners are an almost instantaneous reaction to discovering a clot and that this isn't a one or the other (blood thinners or surgery) kind of remedy. Based on what I had read the surgery was very likely to happen if the doctors felt there was an issue with how his blood travels in his shoulder.

    Mind you, locating an issue in his shoulder and correcting it surgically is actually a great outcome long term. That means it is unlikely to reoccur and the clot shouldn't have been due to a genetic factor which carries implications on whether he can continue his career. This isn't the typical case where having/needing surgery is a bad outcome like it is with most injuries. Having surgery means they are confident they can correct what caused the clot to form in the first place and he can go on with living his life. I would have more long term concerns of this happening again if he just did the 6 month round of blood thinners and then they gave him a thumbs up to play again.

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    You're not an old school Spurs fan so I don't blame you for not knowing this, but David Robinson screwed his back up in the 96 Olympics and was never the same player again. He went from being a better Giannis to maybe a top 10-15 player from that injury and it caused him the rest of his career. I remember because of that injury he had to miss playoff games in 02 because it caused him to lose feeling in his legs. So Spurs fans will always be worried about injuries in international play losing the prime of the second best player the franchise has ever had.
    I knew David had a back injury and I also remember him missing a playoff game or so in 2002 (how many games was it?) as they said he can't guard Shaq if he loses feeling in his leg as he might get hurt seriously if trying to play. I thought I remember reading a piece of disc hitting a nerve or something, but could be completely wrong. My memory isn't great. I had no idea he hurt it in the Olympics, though. That sucks. I was always wondering why he wasn't the same around that time. What was his injuries in the 1996-97 season? Was the back one of them?

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    I would have more long term concerns of this happening again if he just did the 6 month round of blood thinners and then they gave him a thumbs up to play again.
    Yeah, was just thinking about this. Better off to deal with the issue via surgery than have something as harmful as blood thinners in your system for 6 months.

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    Yeah, was just thinking about this. Better off to deal with the issue via surgery than have something as harmful as blood thinners in your system for 6 months.
    Is being on blood thinners for a longer amount of time not good?

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    Is being on blood thinners for a longer amount of time not good?
    I'm no medical expert, but having something that puts you at the risk of bleeding out from otherwise harmless injuries can't be good.

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    I knew David had a back injury and I also remember him missing a playoff game or so in 2002 (how many games was it?) as they said he can't guard Shaq if he loses feeling in his leg as he might get hurt seriously if trying to play. I thought I remember reading a piece of disc hitting a nerve or something, but could be completely wrong. My memory isn't great. I had no idea he hurt it in the Olympics, though. That sucks. I was always wondering why he wasn't the same around that time. What was his injuries in the 1996-97 season? Was the back one of them?
    The back is why he missed the first 20-25 games of 96-97, then David broke his foot around his fifth game back and that ended his season. He missed the first two games of the series against the Lakers in 02, and I think he might have missed some of the Seattle series before that. I was at Game 3 of that series and I don't think any of us knew whether David was going to play so he got an enormous ovation when he was announced in the starting lineup.

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    Hope Wemby recovers quickly from Surgery - Which I don't think is that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things

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    You're not an old school Spurs fan so I don't blame you for not knowing this, but David Robinson screwed his back up in the 96 Olympics and was never the same player again. He went from being a better Giannis to maybe a top 10-15 player from that injury and it caused him the rest of his career. I remember because of that injury he had to miss playoff games in 02 because it caused him to lose feeling in his legs. So Spurs fans will always be worried about injuries in international play losing the prime of the second best player the franchise has ever had.
    I'm unfortunately old enough to remember, even if I wasn't following closely the Spurs at that time (I really started with TD's draft).

    His participation to the Olympics was a correlation and not a causation to his injury imo.

    I've read many of STers talk about his lack of core strength(ening) and I can assume that the conditioning, preparation and recuperation wasn't what it is now. That injury was meant to happen. Since then, training staff have learned a lot on how to manage and train big bodies the proper way.

    It's not like 50% of the team came back injured. There's also the chance/luck factor that can happen even with all the precautions, even during a simple training...

    They play a much higher level of team basketball and come back better players all while keeping a good physical conditions.

    Every rules have exceptions

    Then it's up to the NBA team's trainers to be smart enough to adapt the player's training camp regimen in case, like last summer, the end of the compe ion is too close to the start of training camp (Wemby only had 2 weeks break iirrc)

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    I know it's his own personal decision but choosing surgery so he can play for France this summer feels wrong tbh.

    I was looking forward to a completely rested and healthy Wemby next year. I get it, I sound selfish, but man.
    That is a weird statement. First if you need a surgery the sooner the better, why are you linking surgery with playing for France ? He did not do a surgery to play for France he did it because he needed it. Then for the Spurs, I only see positive if he plays this summer better that than staying 8 months without playing compe ive basketball. Playing for France or not he will be rested and healthy, if he play for France he will be both and with some rythm

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    manu also had an ankle injury in the olympics that required surgery. Pop had asked Manu not to play in the Olympics because his ankle was already hobbled before the games began. manu insisted that playing did not make the ankle any worse but he missed most of the semi-final game and the rest of the Olympics after that. while it might have been true that manu would have needed surgery anyways, it certainly didn't help the timeline.

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    typical for a provoked DVT is 6 weeks to 3 months anti coagulation after the transient risk factor has been resolved

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    manu also had an ankle injury in the olympics that required surgery. Pop had asked Manu not to play in the Olympics because his ankle was already hobbled before the games began. manu insisted that playing did not make the ankle any worse but he missed most of the semi-final game and the rest of the Olympics after that. while it might have been true that manu would have needed surgery anyways, it certainly didn't help the timeline.
    Was that 2008 or 2012? I vaguely recall him having a nasty ankle sprain in the 2002 FIBA World Cup the summer before he came to the Spurs.

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    typical for a provoked DVT is 6 weeks to 3 months anti coagulation after the transient risk factor has been resolved
    How long after blood thinners stop being taken can a person resume contact sports assuming they aren't considered to be at risk for another clot?

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    The back is why he missed the first 20-25 games of 96-97, then David broke his foot around his fifth game back and that ended his season. He missed the first two games of the series against the Lakers in 02, and I think he might have missed some of the Seattle series before that. I was at Game 3 of that series and I don't think any of us knew whether David was going to play so he got an enormous ovation when he was announced in the starting lineup.
    So basically you’re saying we’re on track to land AJ Dybantsa, I see.

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    I'm unfortunately old enough to remember, even if I wasn't following closely the Spurs at that time (I really started with TD's draft).

    His participation to the Olympics was a correlation and not a causation to his injury imo.

    I've read many of STers talk about his lack of core strength(ening) and I can assume that the conditioning, preparation and recuperation wasn't what it is now. That injury was meant to happen. Since then, training staff have learned a lot on how to manage and train big bodies the proper way.

    It's not like 50% of the team came back injured. There's also the chance/luck factor that can happen even with all the precautions, even during a simple training...

    They play a much higher level of team basketball and come back better players all while keeping a good physical conditions.

    Every rules have exceptions

    Then it's up to the NBA team's trainers to be smart enough to adapt the player's training camp regimen in case, like last summer, the end of the compe ion is too close to the start of training camp (Wemby only had 2 weeks break iirrc)
    Yeah, I remember quips about how Dave could fit in 30” waist sized Levi jeans, or some such nonsense.

    It’s sad to see people forget how awesome pre-injury Dave was. I get the Giannis-Dave comp, but in my biased opinion Dave was the superior player.

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    Was that 2008 or 2012? I vaguely recall him having a nasty ankle sprain in the 2002 FIBA World Cup the summer before he came to the Spurs.
    2008

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    Yeah, I remember quips about how Dave could fit in 30” waist sized Levi jeans, or some such nonsense.

    It’s sad to see people forget how awesome pre-injury Dave was. I get the Giannis-Dave comp, but in my biased opinion Dave was the superior player.
    When they were putting together the 92 Olympics Dream Team, MJ’s first call was David. Let that sink in.

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    Yeah, I remember quips about how Dave could fit in 30” waist sized Levi jeans, or some such nonsense.

    It’s sad to see people forget how awesome pre-injury Dave was. I get the Giannis-Dave comp, but in my biased opinion Dave was the superior player.
    Giannis is stronger and better open court ball handler than the admiral. But DAC was quicker, better passer, shooter, runs the court better, and a better defender.

    I always felt Garnett was a better comp to Dave, and I always think wemby should model his game after Garnett. So there’s that.

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    Giannis is stronger and better open court ball handler than the admiral. But DAC was quicker, better passer, shooter, runs the court better, and a better defender.

    I always felt Garnett was a better comp to Dave, and I always think wemby should model his game after Garnett. So there’s that.
    Garnett always had the team list him at 6’11” so people wouldn’t want him to play center, so they have that in common, the desire to be more perimeter oriented.

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    You're not an old school Spurs fan so I don't blame you for not knowing this, but David Robinson screwed his back up in the 96 Olympics and was never the same player again. He went from being a better Giannis to maybe a top 10-15 player from that injury and it caused him the rest of his career. I remember because of that injury he had to miss playoff games in 02 because it caused him to lose feeling in his legs. So Spurs fans will always be worried about injuries in international play losing the prime of the second best player the franchise has ever had.
    Didn’t he screw up his knee when Malone knocked him out cold. I thought a lot of his lost athleticism was due to both back and knee problems. It was a long time ago but i thought he made mention of his knee never feeling right after that.

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    Giannis is stronger and better open court ball handler than the admiral. But DAC was quicker, better passer, shooter, runs the court better, and a better defender.

    I always felt Garnett was a better comp to Dave, and I always think wemby should model his game after Garnett. So there’s that.
    It’s weird bc Robinson was like a hybrid Giannis/Garnett. He definitely preferred to take jumpers like Garnett and had no real end of game go to move like Garnett. But the thing is that Dave just ran and jumped like a deer and that’s something Garnett just never had. Dave could catch a lob from anywhere and was a quick second jump type of player which is just super rare.

    Dave in this era would be the best player in the league though. And I think him and Jokic would be seen as a real rivalry with both of them having multiple MVPs. He’d also have ALL of Goberts DPOY awards.

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